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    + Orin got a reaction from Ryan Roman in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from Chidude in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Thanks. If you haven't found it elsewhere, we're Bill's friends and co-workers. Deb and I have known him since 1978. He even officiated at our wedding in 1994.
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    + Orin got a reaction from peter831 in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from wearytraveller in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from AceHardware in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from Cooper in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Thanks. If you haven't found it elsewhere, we're Bill's friends and co-workers. Deb and I have known him since 1978. He even officiated at our wedding in 1994.
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    + Orin got a reaction from AceHardware in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Thanks. If you haven't found it elsewhere, we're Bill's friends and co-workers. Deb and I have known him since 1978. He even officiated at our wedding in 1994.
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    + Orin got a reaction from Alfstoria in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from Luv2play in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + Cock Eyed Optimist in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + nycman in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Thanks. If you haven't found it elsewhere, we're Bill's friends and co-workers. Deb and I have known him since 1978. He even officiated at our wedding in 1994.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + newatthis in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + robear in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from mike carey in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + keroscenefire in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from Antonio1981 in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + azdr0710 in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + Pensant in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + Autumnal in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from Oscar Not Wilde in READ ME: Message Forum Moved to New Server   
    Early this morning, something happened at the hosting company, and the site fell through a wormhole. I'd been talking with @RadioRob about it yesterday, and contacted him. For most of the day, he's been busy rescuing the site. Since he couldn't get it to work on the old server, he copied it to another one, and set up a new URL, M4M-forum.org to point to it. Now that it's working in its new home, the old site re-directs to the new one, where you should be now. Please bookmark the new URL.
     
    Once we have updated the DNS entries for the old site's URL to point to the new server, the redirect will no longer be needed and the old server can be relinquished. There is other work to do for moving the review site.
     
    All of this means that it is time to decide who will own and run this place.
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    + Orin got a reaction from Golem in Can we get to $10k?   
    You tell me.
     
    We only got the keys to Bill's apartment because the hospital accepted Deb as his medical decision-maker. Because we paid for the cremation, we are able to obtain a death certificate. It also means we become credible to be named Administrator, if no kin are located. The site is an asset of Bill's estate, and the Administrator is empowered to deal with the assets. It has to be handed off to another person or legal entity, so it would be possible to transfer ownership to either someone here, or an entity comprised of people here or their associates.
     
    But until that can happen, the site must be preserved. This site is ONLY accessible from a computer in Bill's apartment. It cannot be logged into remotely except from his computer, because of the security safeguards that he set up. That computer is also what performs the daily backups. Having the death certificate enables us to cut the red tape and make things happen.
     
    We are incurring these expenses in order to honor Bill's legacy by preserving the sites and handing them off to people who have an interest in their existence, rather than to someone seeking to profit from them.
     
    And as regards to the question just raised by @LookingAround, I suppose it would be possible to scrape much of the content of this site, and port it to another one. Is that what the community here wants to do? Or is there value to this place, enough to want to preserve it?
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    + Orin got a reaction from thickornotatall in Can we get to $10k?   
    If we step away, and the hosting lapses, there won't be any raw materials to grab.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + FreshFluff in Can we get to $10k?   
    And that perspective is really the crux of this whole adventure. The 'writer' side of me has a few thoughts about that to share here.
     
    Twice, now, there was a 'someone' who cared enough about the continued existence of these sites to put in the time and effort to keep them running. Or, to put it into literary metaphor, a 'hero' arose to unselfishly take on that burden. We're all used to reading or watching stories that follow the well-trod path of "the hero's journey", to focusing our attention on some singular leader or sole possessor of whatever qualities are needed to push the story past obstacles and adversaries to achieve some climactic victory and reach a satisfying conclusion. Judging by the posts I've read, some of the people here appear to yearn for such a savior to rescue this virtual world.
     
    But there is another type of story, one in which a group of people band together to overcome whatever obstacles are placed before them. And though conventional histories tend to focus on narratives which present certain individuals in that light -- people like presidents, generals and so forth, there are other histories, such as that written by Howard Zinn, which show how changes have been wrought through the communal efforts of labor unions, popular movements and collectives.
     
    It has been suggested here that it is time for the community to take up a mission and step beyond the 'protect and inform' notion that Daddy/Guy/Bill laid out in the TOS, and advocate for the sex workers who populate this place, perhaps even in collaboration with the likes of the HRC. If there is a sense here that such a path is worthy of communal action, then the task of keeping the site running becomes a means to that end, rather than a burden placed on some singular hero who arises to save the day.
     
    Much of the fiction that I have written for my blog is about the accomplishments of people acting together. But such things also happen in real life.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + WilliamM in Can we get to $10k?   
    If we step away, and the hosting lapses, there won't be any raw materials to grab.
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    + Orin got a reaction from + keroscenefire in Can we get to $10k?   
    You tell me.
     
    We only got the keys to Bill's apartment because the hospital accepted Deb as his medical decision-maker. Because we paid for the cremation, we are able to obtain a death certificate. It also means we become credible to be named Administrator, if no kin are located. The site is an asset of Bill's estate, and the Administrator is empowered to deal with the assets. It has to be handed off to another person or legal entity, so it would be possible to transfer ownership to either someone here, or an entity comprised of people here or their associates.
     
    But until that can happen, the site must be preserved. This site is ONLY accessible from a computer in Bill's apartment. It cannot be logged into remotely except from his computer, because of the security safeguards that he set up. That computer is also what performs the daily backups. Having the death certificate enables us to cut the red tape and make things happen.
     
    We are incurring these expenses in order to honor Bill's legacy by preserving the sites and handing them off to people who have an interest in their existence, rather than to someone seeking to profit from them.
     
    And as regards to the question just raised by @LookingAround, I suppose it would be possible to scrape much of the content of this site, and port it to another one. Is that what the community here wants to do? Or is there value to this place, enough to want to preserve it?
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