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2 minutes ago, Lucky said:

LOL...who said that it got under my skin?

You’re the one who pointed it out for a reason.  But sometimes people need to be reassured they exist.  So, good morning and welcome to our world today. 

16 minutes ago, Lucky said:

Why are you using a female pronoun for Andrew?

 

And this got under your skin on a Monday morning? Seriously? 🤦🏽‍♂️

Experiment revisited:

I was curious to see how young Andrew Cunanan is doing with her high rates and book of platinum clientele.  
 

Fast forward three months later and we now have an expired ad with zero reviews.  Appears that this formula for marketing doesn’t work well.  Especially in this economy. 

That’s my whole point guys — exactly that — the flood of advertisers on RentMasseur literally flood the site as Escorts when the true reality it’s supposed to be for massage.  The same company owns and manages both RentMasseur and Rent.men.  How hard is it to just advertise where that demand is and where that pointed service is sought?  
 

I have tried all spectrums of RentMasseur types to find that a vast majority want to just escort and not do the massage.  I pick the guys with muscles a majority of the time because it’s nothing for them to give hard pressure which is what I want.  But as I stated above — I could list a number of providers I have found and they started great, but they pivot to escorting or drop out from massage altogether. 
 

Looking at the rates and reviews is one method I use to sort through who is legit and who is not.  But Masseur Finder isn’t any better in my opinion.  They just happen to regulate ads much more than RentMasseur.  At least they learned from the fiasco that was “Rentboy.com.”  Honestly, it won’t surprise me at some point the Feds either prosecute RentMasseur or it gets block from use in the United States.  

12 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

I’m not suggesting you do need to experience it, but many do. No I disagree that Rentmasseur is to be geared as a massage site. It’s completely legitimate to offer a proper massage (by someone who is trained) and include as part of that sexual services. There’s a demand  for it, and Rentmasseur serves that market. In some jurisdictions (fortunately not mine) guys offering sexual services as part of massage have to be discreet about it. I expect that’s why some of the adverts on there are ambiguous. 

It sounds like you’re wanting to order an Italian dish in a Mexican restaurant so to speak. If you want Mexican go to a Mexican restaurant. Don’t complain that there’s only Pizza and Pasta on the menu in an Italian restaurant. 

Therein lies the axe you wish to grind with me, and that is Rentmasseur as an escort site.  That argument is asinine.  The very nature of the site is for massage.  The very nature of Rent.men is for escorting.  This is my point!  
 

Apparently this isn’t coming through clear enough.  The very definition of masseur is the operative action of providing a massage.  The sexual actions then bisects escorting as the main attraction and what has made Rentmasseur a primary escort site versus legitimate massage.  
 

I warned this was a rant, however your argument in favor of escorting on a ‘massage’ site seems to be lost in translation here.

4 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

I think that if you’re looking for therapeutic only massage then there’s probably more appropriate sites than Rentmasseur. Just look at the pictures on Rentmasseur, most of the masseurs are wearing very little and it’s clear that the service is more than a spa style massage. If you’re looking for therapeutic only on Rentmasseur you’ll not find it very easily. 

Also if you equate a Grindr fuck with a session with a good escort or masseur then you’re not comparing like with like. 

Again, not something I need to experience or purchase. 
 

I’m sure you do quite well at the whole “porn” experience and more power to you and those you serve, but again I’m venting my opinions here and feel that if rentmasseur is to be geared as a massage site it should be - that.  
 

Otherwise, desegregate the discussion on this exact forum thread and say exactly the sex that is being provided as within “Daddy’s Den.”  Cause really what are you trying to hide under the premise of securing a providers “licensing” or — lack there of.

6 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Unfortunately it’s hit and miss. You can ask the therapist about what’s included for the price etc but until you try him out you’ll never know for sure whether his massage style / technique is good for you.

I see clients who just want a great massage done by a guy, some even don’t want me to do it naked. There’s no sexual arousal included - at their request. They just like the massage but my rate is the same.

Other clients like the massage to progress quickly to more of an escort type session. Kind of half massage and half sex. Usually that’s an outcall and the massage is on a bed. Unless I’m bottoming the rate is the same. I think it ruins the session if we have to stop part way through for me to say “oh that’s extra, are you ok to pay for that” or to stop from doing something that has progressed naturally because it wasn’t in the pre paid menu.

I charge extra to bottom in a massage because of the extra time it takes to prepare but that’s the only extra. 

I simply avoid this type of setup altogether.  
 

I really wish that providers and clients who seek escort pivoted services would move this business to Rent.men.  It’s certainly segregated on this forum massage versus escorting.  Notwithstanding the fact that clients within the massage side of the forum still push the subject towards escorting regardless.  I’d say both are to blame for where things currently are on the site.  
 

It takes work to find legitimate massage and when you do find such providers they don’t stick around that long or they switch their service points to more escorting.  Like seriously if need to fuck that’s what Grindr is there for… I don’t need to pay for sex.

31 minutes ago, allyouknow said:

It would be great if prices are posted. 

That’s when you really know their intent on the site. 

15 minutes ago, needbodywork said:

First off don't believe everything you read in the reviews. Anyone can write a review easily including the masseur and his friends.

For the reviews that may be real... A lot of masseurs will have a base rate and add significant fees for extra services. For example a therapeutic only massage might be $150. For it to become "full service" it might be an extra $200-250. In this case they are giving both the massage and the "full service" so they charge and can get away with the high price.  Many clients want both options in the same session.

 

Then they should all filter over to the escort side plain and simple.  It’s so misleading when you’re wanting to make a decision and end up dropping because the provider isn’t what they advertise.  This is the point I’m making.  

More of a rant here.  
 

While perusing the ads in RentMasseur today I seriously came to wits end when I looked through a good ad only to go to the rates paid to them…

$250-500!?!?! For an hour session.  Obviously curbing RM’s “don’t tell” policy, it’s plainly clear that the services rendered were purely as an escort.  
 

I really wish that if escorting is the services these advertisers choose to provide, would it be proper for them to close the RentMasseur ad and just move over to Rent.men and simply advertise as an escort?  
 

It seems to be so tough to find a legitimate massage provider at a decent rate on the site.  When I found one who advertised as a “Certified” masseur, I end up reading the reviews only to be disappointed.  Hell, even their rates posted were low, then the reviews show $250+ from $85!

Feel free to bash me now. 

https://rentmasseur.com/Kinetic_healing 
 

Anyone have experience with him?

On 6/3/2021 at 11:25 AM, LodoB said:

Had a mediocre experience in May with Brad at his place in Tucson. Disappointing based on prior comments here. Easily one of my worst hires. No skill, lacked in effort and while I’m typically not bothered by an unkempt place — his was so messy and dirty it was uncomfortable. Maybe his Phoenix pad is better — avoid his Tucson apartment.

Also disappointed he didn’t look like his pictures — his muscular frame is now hidden under a layer of fat — must have put on 20lbs (not muscle) and is now more of a beefy guy than a muscular guy as in his pics — good for some I’m sure but definitely not as advertised.

Hoped his extras would make up for some of this but he could barely get hard and said he was so tired from playing with a friend of his the prior day and night.

I’m happy for those that like him and have had good experiences but I definitely do not recommend him.

Damn.  Was just about to book him while in Tucson today.

Well I’m tossing the towel on that.  If he needs to be selective over his business then he’s doing too well to earn mine. 

https://rentmasseur.com/Levis_Touch 
 

Anyone have any experience with him? 

Bump

3 hours ago, SamMiller213 said:

Interesting. I’ve heard conflicting feedback on him so never considered him. I might have to give him a chance now.

I private messaged you on that.  Notwithstanding the bad reviews on this forum, I encourage people to look at his reviews on Rentmasseur which speak for themselves.  Disgruntled clients have their own personal agendas posting on a forum and not on the RM site. 

https://rentmasseur.com/Omrii 
 

Great availability.  Clean studio.  Affordable fee. Great personality.

1 hour ago, MassageAdam said:

 The thought never even crossed my mind, so I am blown away by how many of them feel entitled to that in present times.  

I should add to what I also said above... I suppose this is the fallout from the "everyone gets a trophy" generation.  This group knows no winner or losers because they are "all" winners. 🙄

Hence this form of entitlement without actually earning it. 

As stated by others above — this child is living in his own delusional dream world.  
 

As much as others will try and justify his actions (rightfully so… otherwise this wouldn’t be a forum)… I will say the 18-21 year old gays are idolizing television and music icons that makes this behavior acceptable.  Why work for “it” when their own parents never said the word: “N-O” …all while buying these entitled brats anything they want to pacify their own lack of parenting.  
 

I would also place blame with the lonely men who seek out twinks such as this, reinforcing this bad behavior.  Why do I call this bad behavior?  Because it’s prostitution on steroids.  Much like price gouging by oil companies right now.  I’m sure 90% reading this would not hire this kid to begin with… (I for one being with this group)  I will gladly not be among the 10 or less percent that would only hire him to satisfy their own egos all while waving it as a badge of honor they can afford to buy and conquer such a twink.  I’ve seen a provider play this exact game, he was great at it… until daddy grew tired of him racking up thousands and thousands on his credit card and not gaining enough “sugar” in return, knocking twinkie out the nest as fast as Liberace dropped Scott Thorson. 
 

Fortunately, I can still pull hotter twinks for the average dinner at Cheesecake Factory and a movie and still not toss out thousands to an undeserving child.  This is my opinion and I’m sticking to it.  
 

You go Andrew Cunanan!!! 

For an old porn star this one definitely has high mileage.  I wouldn’t waste $125 on him.

https://www.mintboys.com/male-escorts/phoenix/60ee0709c2c4da95525e3be0 
 

I’ll just leave this here.  Do with it as you will…

Some cities like Phoenix for example, do not have rent control laws or policy.  

You cannot really fault the providers that increase their prices when you get to enjoy their homes and services for an hour of more of their time.  As with any service provider, they need to factor their expenses and costs to provide you a service.  They pay to keep their utilities on, rent/mortgage, clean towels and sheets, gas and vehicle expenses to travel to you, etc.

This is 2022, not 1992!

Massage is a luxury in case many of you forgot, not a necessity. There's always MassageEnvy in case you want to pinch your pennies.  If you argue it's a health-necessity -- having a nearly naked or naked man providing this service, isn't exactly what I would say is "necessity," especially, if you expect a handjob or play at the end. 

Sounds like I dodged a bullet on this one!

I had an appointment scheduled and he bailed at the eleventh hour.  I didn’t bother rescheduling.