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I'm sure he does, when you can't remember from the high.

As a Venezuelan myself who has hired venezuelans I'll tell ya they're all now saying they're Colombian and laugh how all the "gringos don't know the difference"

Thank you for your words and reassuring me about this. Do you mind if I DM you for some advice? I don't want to make it all public but could appreciate some advice.

We had a 3hr session on Thursday, we didn't meet Friday, then had the overnight Saturday, we saw each other Sunday evening as the "make up" for and he checked out Monday. I paid for Thursday-Monday Hotel. He did agree on meeting me a couple of hours earlier on Saturday as pay from the room. Yes, we met on Thursday for a 3hr session (1450) then Saturday for the overnight (4k) and Sunday eve after I told him I was disappointed. I paid the tix and hotel for Thurs-Monday so he was free to see other clients Friday and Saturday/Sunday during the day. I know it's the business so I don't care if he's seeing other clients as long as he makes it up to me but still felt disconnected. Here's the exchange we had after the overnight over text after he asked me if I was OK: Me: "Hey! Personally yes of course. I had a great time last night for sure the dinner and our time together after was amazing ♥️. I did feel bummed that I had some expectations that didn’t get to happen, I mentioned I wanted to sleep with a load in me and you had said yes and I also thought we would have some play in the morning as well even after adding a couple of more hours but you said you were not a horny morning person and that’s OK. For me is just now adjusting my expectations you know? Probably we would just have 3-4hr evening sessions and not do overnights as it’s a double rate." He said: "Ok, I’m sorry, I do understand the way that you feel. I do want you to know that I always want to get off but it’s not always possible. I couldn’t even stay hard after the pain from the blue balls was setting in and as you know if it doesn’t happen, I can’t force it. As for the morning sex, I apologize but I feel like I’ve mentioned it a lot that I’m not a morning person in any capacity. I do feel very bad that you aren’t happy overall with how things went and it makes me feel like I’ve not given you what you’ve asked of me. Particularly understanding we’ve been trying to perfect this time together as much as possible. I think that might have gotten in the way. Everything isn’t going to always be perfect, which is why I’m willing to ask, listen and work towards it being better for next time. If you feel like I’ve slighted you in any way, we can spend a bit of time together later too. I just don’t wake up ready to rock and roll. I figured with the concept of you wanting boyfriend time in the morning would be us just waking up together kissing cuddling and then having breakfast etc. like we mentioned previously. Truly, and genuinely, I enjoyed our time together more than you know. I’d hate to have you feel this way after how much effort we’ve both put into our connection" There's more but this is the gist. I was already telling him that it would make no sense for us to continue doing overnights if that was going to be the plan and I had expected things he didn't deliver. Yes, I'm aware there are guys out there that will do much more for way less but TBH I've searched in Los Angeles of all places and I've yet to find someone high quality to have this with, 90% of the guys in here are on onlyfans, insta thirst traps, porn and I want something with someone a bit more discreet.

Thank you for your words and yes, I flew him business NY-LA and put him in a suite in Beverly Hills for 4 days. I am exploring and trying to find a good match for something like this and TBH the quality of the guys in LA leaves a lot to be desired and when we met in NY I felt that connection that I've not been able to feel with anyone here in LA. Having said that, yes, I expected more time and considering his 3hr rate is 1450, asking 4k for 3hrs + 6hrs of sleep to be too steep, I don't mind paying it for something where I can get much more in return but I guess we learn every day. We are meeting next week for 3hrs as he'll be back in LA and after our meet I plan to send him a long message explaining what my expectations are moving forward and if he can great and if he can't then I'll move on.

That’s what I’m thinking of saying that having two sessions of 3hrs in two different days is half the rate of an overnight that only has one block of play.

So I just had my first overnight ever and in part I felt taken advantage of but then again I was the one who agreed to it. I met this guy in NY earlier this year and we had a fun time for 3hrs, we kept chatting and I agreed to fly him to LA and put him in a hotel and have an overnight, he quoted to me 4k for 10-8AM. We met around 8:30, had dinner at a nearby restaurant, went back to the suite and had fun until about 12:30 where we went to sleep... I woke up around 6:30am, rinsed/showered and waited for him to wake up... which he did around 7:30, we cuddled a bit, tried to get frisky and he said "good luck if you can get it up, I'm not a morning horny person", so we got room service breakfast, we ate and I left almost at 9. There was no 'fun' in the morning just in the evening. So afterwards he texts me asking if everything is OK and I mentioned that I was expecting some fun in the morning which didn't happen and he apologized profusely and asked if I could come over to the hotel later that day so he could make it up to me, I did, we played for a couple of hours and then I left so in a sense he did make up for it but at the same time I felt like I should've done a better job setting expectations. He has reached out about trying to do another one and I haven't replied yet but I am definitely going to tell him that I expect some sexy play time in the evening (2hrs) and sexy time in the morning (2hrs) and that I don't see a good return for me to pay 2k for the sexy time and 2k for sleeping 6 hours together. Any insight I could have? Yes, caveat emptor and I don't regret it because it's a life experience.

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Don't bother. Meth is just a "don't touch" thing, I had a friend who's a famous porn star and I saw him go from being the nicest guy ever to a paranoid mess who crashed his car, got sent to jail, couldn't hold a job and talking to him in person 2 years after you could tell his mental faculties had decreased considerably. Is not worth it. You cannot help them. Walk away.

Took the plunge. Massage is meh. No extras. Told me after text it was much more for extras (even though he charged me for sensual) and then a text including how much for any act and how much if I wanted him to cum. When I tried to setup time again a week later he replies with "Well I only do those extras with repeated customers", I said "Ah understood" and left it at that, I don't like the up-selling and mixed messages besides, the massage itself wasn't good.

He's OK. Nice guy but maybe he was tired but he couldn't perform...

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Haha all my life I have been the twink so the hunks are the ones that catch my eye as hooking up with other twinks makes you hear the clacking of our bones 🤣. I need meaty hunks to avoid that 😋

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Yea it sucks but kinda broke my own rule of not hiring Brazilians because of this. They’re usually the group that is the most unprofessional overall and was reminded why last night

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I’ve found saying ‘Thanks for the reply however that’s way above my usual budget of X. I appreciate your response and I hope you have a fantastic day’ to be VERY effective at negotiating rates. You never want to tell them their rate is too high because they’ll feel you’re offending their self worth. My response says what my budget is for it and that I’m moving on while wishing them a good day.

Saw Dutch... meh...

What's even funnier is the guy isn't even European. He's from Venezuela and only lived in Spain for a couple of years

Having said that as a client having a provider flake on you after you douched should be punishable by jail 😆 I don't mind when providers need to move the appointment but I do prefer at least 4-5 hours notice before our meet. I've had providers literally text me 5 mins before our appointment "Can we move it an hour?" like what? NOW 5 mins before our scheduled time is when you ask to move it?! I also have a list of providers who have said yes to the time and date, I confirm literally an hour before and they say yes and then just don't show up nor answer any text after. To Jail with those haha

He's friendly, I'd say his massage rate is quite high and in his message he says "... with mutual touch, nudity and whatever I feel is within the boundaries of what I'm comfortable with..." meaning, if you probably unattractive or similar nothing much will happen, even at the high rate quoted for a massage.

The last thing I'm going to say on this thread is that *I* personally find gross to hear "Oh poor pedophile he ruined his life he had everything going on for him". I rather use my empathy on the victims.

Is not the same, what we do here is between TWO CONSENSUAL adults that the government has no role interfering with. A 15 year old cannot legally consent. Stop defending pedophiles.

Who cares if the 15yo is sexually active? It's ILLEGAL and WRONG. Vindictive comments? I have no sympathy for pedophiles. He plead guilty to that charge so the OTHER charges would be dropped the ones where he's sending and sharing even WORSE content with younger kids. Why do you defend a pedophile? Hmm?

His? Or the children's life he ruined? Oh no a fucking perv had what was coming to him how horrible /s Hopefully he rots in jail or the other inmates do what they usually do with child molestors.