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Yeah, it was pretty stupid of them to re-name Manta as New Hero when "old" Hero had legal problems. There's an upside in terms of getting your fans to follow you, but you don't want the negative attention either.

I love to rim but I definitely understand why some (many?) don't like it. There's a huge difference between putting your cock in someone's ass (especially with a condom) and putting your lips/tongue in someone's shithole.

I'm 99% sure that this guy used to work at East Men Spa years ago (7-8 years ago?) and moved to Babylon Spa briefly, IIRC. Haven't seen him in ages. If memory serves, he's slightly odd but willing to please. lol And I didn't realize East Men had been resurrected. Guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

As a nonsmoker, It helps me decide if I want to hire someone. I don't like kissing a smoker. ?

Did you pay more than the regular 27 Men Spa rate for his massage? I wonder how that deal works out for him?

If you are sticking to strictly therapeutic massages, 25% is probably fine. It depends on how cheap the massage is for me though. There's a chain spa here in NYC that charges about $70 for 90 minutes. (I think? It's been awhile since I've visited them thanks to Covid.) 25% of $70 is only $17.50, but I tip $30 if they are good, or maybe $25 if they are average. Massaging for 90 minutes is a lot of work and they don't make much money. I feel like a total of $100 for a 90 min massage is a great deal.

Well. I think 100% for a "certain massages" is pretty good. I usually tip about $50 for an hour and $70 for 90 min and only go to 100% for special occasions. lol I've been going to TSMS for a couple of years now, not quite since they opened, but almost, and no one has ever questioned my tipping there except for Philip, who asked for a "good tip" in the middle of the massage. He needs to ask because, well, I just wouldn't recommend him (no reviews here...).

How much are you tipping? (If you don’t mind me asking? lol) The only one there who’s ever asked me about tips there is Philip and he’s not worth a good tip.

There's definitely a difference for the top, at least for me. I love the feeling of raw sex, but sex with a condom is usually less "stimulating". It takes me a lot longer to cum, if I can cum at all using a condom. I think bottoms can definitely feel the more powerful ejaculations. I have had a few myself and every time the bottom would comment on how he could feel me cumming. And I'm talking about hook-ups, not escorts looking for a bigger tip with fake a "oooh baby, that was so hawt! I could feel you cumming." ?

I haven't hired him but I plan to one of these days. Turns out that he works at Energy Spa. I saw him there when I met TerrenceZZ. Seemed nice in general and we chatted via RentMen messenger that night. I had to check if that was the same guy I thought it was. lol Obviously, rates will vary from a spa/massage encounter to a RentMen encounter but I am interested in trying him myself.

It's possible. Not sure if this was pre-Grindr or not though. This would have been around 2008-2010ish?

I like August. I do not recommend Yura.

Well, a deal breaker is a deal breaker. If an escort drastically changes their look without updating their pics, that's on them. Whether it's facial hair, a huge tattoo, an extra 50lbs or dropping down from muscles to a twink, if the change is drastic enough and the client is no longer attracted/into them, just excuse yourself from the situation (if possible); advise them that they look drastically different and you are no longer interested. A simple "you don't look anything like your pics in your ad" should be clear. You have to ask yourself if you are willing to continue and potentially be disappointed or bothered by it during your session or if it makes sense to cut your losses and leave. I'm lucky that I'm in a city with plenty of options. If I have an extra hour, I can find someone, maybe a "tried and true" previous escort, who is available to take their place on short notice. If you are in a city with less options, it probably means a wasted opportunity but sometimes it's better than wasting money on a disappointing experience.

Suddenly, I want to take a trip to Oklahoma City! He's cute! Anyway, yes, I agree with the happy beginning crowd, or at least happy middle. lol The build up is fun, but I like to get massaged after. So much more relaxing.

In a spa, I tip about $40 for an hour, $60 for 90 minutes when there are extras. And the more extras, the higher the tip. For private masseurs at their place, I tip less because they keep all of the money, but I still tip roughly 20%, especially with extras. I like to let them know I appreciate the extras. For example, I like for them to be nude during the whole massage. If the massage isn't very good or they don't offer any extras, then basically I don't tip and I won't see them again.

I've had several guys, previous hires, contact me asking for money for various reasons/excuses (rent money, medical bills for mother, etc.), all with promises of a fun time next time we meet. I've never fallen for it. Most of the time, it means an automatic block from my side. The closest I've ever come to this was a session where the escort was not able to perform as promised, but he said he'd give me a freebie "next time we met." We still fooled around a little, but it was a disappointing session overall and he knew it. So, we met up again not long after (within a month?). I should have reminded him when I set of the appointment but I didn't. I arrived, we chatted and I reminded him while we were getting undressed. He said something about how he could give the freebie only mid-week, not on a weekend. I said I wish I had known there were restrictions and mid-week usually isn't convenient for me. He still said I'd have to pay for that day and schedule the freebie for another day. I said no, got dressed and left. I wasn't out of money, per se, but he definitely wasted my time.

I don't like facial hair either. I would also suggest, at minimum, hinting that the non-bearded pics are hot or be direct and ask their current "facial hair situation." If it's a deal breaker for you, you should definitely ask.

Not if you are in his neighborhood with your bf and you don't want the two to meet! lol I hire because usually it means less complications than hook ups. I tried Craigslist/Grindr hook ups but more often than not the other guys wanted more than just a FWB situation.

I had a thing going about 10-12 years ago with a masseur. He worked out of his apt and gave nice sensual massages. After a few sessions, the massages always led to us having sex. That went on for a year or so. I gave him an inexpensive Christmas present (it maybe cost about $30). While every session was paid for, I don't think he considered the sex part of the session. (I booked an hour and got an hour's massage; the sex was always afterwards, for example.) Towards the end, I started getting lots of "I want to see you again soon" texts from him, and several times those texts happened when I was in his neighborhood. Maybe it was just a coincidence, but I would always be a little startled and look around to see if he was nearby. I was not looking for anything more than FWB at most, but he seemed to be getting more clingy so I stopped seeing him all together.

I would never send my pic to an escort in advance of meeting. First of all, what if THEY are the ones who are law enforcement? Second, I'm hiring so it shouldn't matter what I look like exactly. I don't mind sending my stats/general description but no, they are not getting my pic. As mentioned above, I did send my pic to an escort I had met a year or so prior. I said we had met before but he wanted me to jog his memory. No problem.

"NYC style spas" ? How diplomatic!

That's sad to hear, but maybe part of the problem is that you asked for a strong massage at a place like TSMS. I have made the same mistake in the past. Now, I only get a strong massage at a more "professional" spa now. I have had Charlie's massage a couple of times without issue and I can recommend him.

I agree. I shouldn't have continued the session. I was relatively new to hiring at that point and I was hosting in my apartment. I wanted to avoid any possible scene and as I said, it was my first time dealing with this issue. I hadn't even thought about it being an option. I have learned how to deal with it since then.

Four reviews in the space of less than three weeks and then nothing seem odd to me. ?‍♂️

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