NikoLeto

This is exactly our setup when JulioCesar and I work together.

Eek. This is always stressful. I've found that the best solution is to pick a handful of profiles and send pictures/links to the client to give them ideas of who I'm interested in going after and have them whittle the list down. Then I reach out to the providers and see who's interested in the arrangement. Was given carte blanche to pick an escort once and I knew nothing about him aside from his pictures and profile. He showed up virtually insensible and was functionally useless. That felt like my fault. Now, if I let the client make the decision on who to go after, I don't feel as personally responsible if the chemistry is off, or the performance is ... substandard.

If I were hiring, well... I've got a crush on Marc Dylan. ?

This is my definition as well. Someone who can take a huge dick for a long time and enjoy (or at least make a show of enjoying) every second. I tend to think of this as a bossy bottom. I used to equate bossy bottom to power bottom, but recently had an experience with a bossy bottom that was a little... dainty about getting fucked. Very specific in how he wanted to receive, to the detriment of the fun of the act. I enjoy being a submissive guy when not pressed one way or the other - I mean it can be pretty hot to essentially be a fuck stick for another guy's enjoyment - but when there's too many interruptions, it's going to be a boner-kill and I'd rather they just take over and ride me or whatever.

I'd be interested to see where this was offered and what the numbers on that are.

As a provider, this is something that is soooo frustrating I wish I could get interested parties to explain in detail what they wanted from an erotic massage. Are they looking for a legit massage with a HE? Are they just looking to get off? Are the sensual elements and the 'tease'/build-up the most important parts? Do they have a legitimate physiological problem that they want me to try and work on? Clients are all over the map on this one. I have one regular that essentially wants a rub-down on his backside, flip and then be done with the experience. Just last night, I had a new client I was happy to oblige - the massage had run ~45 minutes and come to its natural conclusion, but I hadn't worked over his quads, so I get back to it. I think it's a lot about communicating. "Massage" is a pretty nebulous term with a ton of different approaches. Even erotic massages where technique takes a back-seat, still, there's so many ways to navigate the experience. You just have to develop your own style, hope that it pleases the majority, and invite conversation on what the client wants from the experience. As a guy who only gets vanilla massages from time to time, this advice is pure gold.

The scene described sounds so fucking hot. Thank you for that gem.

TIL. (Today I Learned)

I take Cialis, but I do that for for-fun hookups, as well. No one likes it when their dick doesn't work due to pressure to perform, or other stressors. Largely, I focus on the sensations that I feel. And as the top, it's pretty rare that I don't get to guide the experience by picking the position that provides the best sensations. Outside of that, if the guy is doing something that almost feels right, I guide him to what really gets me going. If they're doing something that is distracting, I explain that as well. Spoiler alert: getting rimmed and fucking are my favorite sensations (followed by having my balls played with and getting fucked), though there's something to be said for jerking off into a guy's waiting mouth. ?‍♂️ I think it's most about having fun. I can have fun regardless of what the guy looks like or my physical attraction to him. I mean, I could jerk off next to anyone and I'd eventually get off.

You're absolutely right. I haven't had another violent encounter, though I have had a handful of bizarre experiences across the years (two that jump to mind: one spiked lube with a drug and another fell completely unconscious and unresponsive in the middle of the session), basically all of them circled around drugs. Now I have a hard-no policy on any client using meth or G. Originally, I viewed them as just "other drugs", but I've found that they're not conducive to a quality experience. Best to avoid them entirely, from my perspective.

I tried several times to come up with a meaningful response to this, but never felt like anything I said could convey the meaning. Your words helped me step into your shoes for a moment. This was deeply illuminating. I hope we all get out of this terrible time with as much as we can. Stay safe.

I wouldn't be opposed to getting a massage that was more focused on being sensual and erotic, I just don't seek them out and one has never happened to me organically (the once or twice it has happened was as a function of hooking up - guy offered to massage me first, then sex). Though I've only ever booked through massagebook - which I guess is more for guys that are looking to do legitimate massages. Their price ranges indicate to me that sex is not on the table - I'm sure there's a good pun here about massage tables, but I haven't had coffee yet. I will say that I've read other posters on this forum discuss it, and I think I am sending the signals that I'm amenable to a massage evolving into more (getting unabashedly hard, I guess, being the biggest one?), but like I said, just hasn't happened yet. Maybe, also, I'm not good at indicating my interest in such a massage? Maybe I'm not paying enough, or indicating that I would tip handsomely if the massage turned into something else? I dunno, outside of hiring a masseur off RentMasseur (outside of my economics), I think it's just not going to happen - though I will say, those massage videos with Tyler Saint where he's being a creepy massage dude? Huge turn-on.

Evening, once I've accumulated all the stress of my day job and the muscle tightness of working out. Thoouuugh, I pretty much only get traditional massages. Maybe I'll get more exciting massages once I've retired. ?

This is exactly it. I think I might've posted it elsewhere in a similar topic: give people one chance (perhaps two, especially if they've been reliable in the past) and then personally blacklist them. Save a red X (❌) on their contact card. Mute notifications from their number. Do not waste time or energy on them. It's literally not worth it.

Ah, that sounds much more feasible. I feel like bondage requires certain physical elements that must be brought with: ropes, handcuffs, etc.

As a guy who grew up "straight", my first experience with providing came out of a need for a secondary job that wouldn't interfere with my primary vocation at the time (lower enlisted in the Army), and could provide a quick injection of cash into my volatile-at-the-time needs. Someone made a very generous offer and I accepted. I had not even had the beginnings of the idea of how much to charge for any variations of service. I did not consider that I would need (or want) to nurture the relationship as a business. Et cetera, et cetera. Essentially, if the person who introduced me to the idea had come on stronger and had not outlined their expectations (services expected to be rendered and compensation) I wouldn't have had any answers for them, and I would have passed the opportunity up - in fact, I already had. I have no idea how many people approached me for services before I finally said yes. Again, it was a combination of circumstance and necessity. I would offer that if you really want to try and salvage things, you might consider laying all your cards out on the table. I think the worst case scenario is that you are left exactly where you are now: with no interaction from him. By "laying all your cards out" I mean tell him that you hire guys, that you don't consider it odd or taboo, and that if he's not interested in the prospect you understand and are happy to move along. Consider explaining that you would be happy to start with a meal or an evening get-together to introduce him to the idea more ... graciously, but also include the donation that you're offering. It's up to you if you get into the vulgar details of whether anal is involved, etc. Personally, if I were the guy, I'd like to know all the expectations at once so I can do the calculus myself of cost vs. reward.

Living in the middle of a big city, clients tend to arrive in a large window of time (as much as 30 minutes early and 15 minutes late). I personally never stack clients if it can be helped. I like anywhere between 30 minutes to an hour and 30 minutes between clients, if for no other reason than to collect myself and reboot. I would appreciate the notice, and the "no rush" signals to me that it's OK if I keep you waiting 10 minutes and the appointment begins on time, or if I bring you up immediately and the session begins early. lol, forgive me, who decides that they're feeling like a little (edit:) bondage in the middle of a session.

If I'm receiving, I much prefer an average penis. Generally, I'm looking for a shorter, thicker cock when I'm just enjoying some extracurricular activity. I definitely appreciate the guys that prefer larger penises - for economic reasons, obviously.

I haven't encountered many clients with disabilities, but I do see a client who is paraplegic due to cerebral palsy - I'm sure there's specificity to the problem that I'm not privy to. That is, he might not technically be paraplegic, due to a technicality, but I have to physically manage him from his wheelchair to the bed and so on. Specifically to answer your point: I'm not certain there is a disability I would say "never mind" to. I consider the client I see now to be the far-end of potential disabilities.

Curious... You list five guys, but say you're planning on seeing one of "these three"? Unfortunately, I've only worked with one of the guys listed and I'm not sure he made your top three. Still, Drakex fits the bill for what you're after (fit/dominant top, kissing, etc.). For people I haven't had sex with, rwfh and LeoFireXL are wayyyy my type. Sorry I can't be of more help than lusting after them. ?

I dunno about your guy, but my reaction to antibiotics is an upset gut and diarrhea. If I were focusing on keeping that in check, I probably wouldn't have the best performance either.

I believe @marylander1940 meant me. For the continuation of this conversation, I would prefer PMs or across text (whichever you prefer), but it was a matter of not being sure of how to price the service - truthfully, you're the first person who's ever reached out to me that had an interest in self-release. I generally consider there to be two modes for massage (traditional and erotic) and I used to price out things like being nude during the massage, whether mutual touch was allowed, etc. I found people to dislike that model (and so did I), so instead I bundled everything together and picked a price that I felt comfortable with. The 160 price is a holdover from the most-often selected 'package' of me being nude, with mutual touch, with no intention of there being a release. RentMasseur doesn't offer the kind of specificity necessary to price out different services - and even if it offered the description of packages that MasseurFinder offers, it wouldn't let you discuss sexual acts anyways. I think I'll be able to avoid situations like this in the future by taking down my prices entirely. I believe that results in them being set to "Ask me", though I imagine there's a group of people who would be annoyed by that as well. I don't know how to put this gingerly, but I wasn't sure how well I'd be able to perform at this midway point, especially if NO sex was up on your list of don'ts. I've had a number of experiences where I felt like other people took things too far sexually - it left me feeling disgusted with myself, and would feel extraordinarily guilty if I overstepped any of your boundaries. I realized that I had flubbed things as soon as I sent the reply, but it felt like it would be a losing battle to try and work out the specifics - what counts as 'sex' for everyone is different. I also tend to over-deliver. That is, I'm far happier going further toward sex and sexual things, even during a massage, than the opposite. You gave a vague impression that you were busy or would prefer to discuss things at a different time, so I figured that needling you for details would probably only further get on your nerves. I feel like Balthazar sums up my point quite succinctly, but I wanted to provide context and details. Edit: In case it isn't clear, I do hope you can recognize that my tone is meant to be conciliatory and not condescending. I often worry that that might be the case. ?

I would consider it very poor form to stay past whatever time was booked and upcharge after-the-fact. Unless I'm misunderstanding the situation, didn't you book, say, an hour? I consider the onus on the escort to conclude festivities before the hour is up and make appropriate time for cuddling/showering, whatever. This is hard to do on the first meeting, as you don't know the likes/dislikes of the other party, but it's untoward for the provider to behave in the manner described.

This was my experience. I've had a handful of younger men call me daddy. Including a semi-serious relationship when I was stationed in Korea. I didn't revel in it or shy away from it too much. I think I'm a few years and more gray in my beard away from being a prototypical daddy. Being short muddies things even more. But whatever. I personally think daddies are hot, so if I get to join their ranks, what's the problem?

I go commando everywhere. I tried wearing a jockstrap or underwear on days where I do back, because when I bring the bar up, it taps my balls. In the worst scenario, the bar squishes the head of my dick against the unforgiving piece of titanium running through my urethra (Prince Albert) and the pinching sensation from that is enough to make me nearly drop the load (bazinga!). Ultimately, I gave up on it, because all that really happened was that the jock/undies would just bunch everything up and make it less likely that things could be moved by the bar. To the point: I sleep nude. And I enjoy every opportunity to spoon with whomever I'm sleeping with. Either side of the equation feels sexy and comfy.