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Are you asking clients? Because it’s in ‘ask a provider’ 🙂.
First time I did an escort session was, looking back on it, hilarious and I’m grateful for the client who was really understanding.
I’d agreed to meet him outside house no. 8 in his street. But I misunderstood the instructions and knocked on the door at no. 8 which was actually the house across the street. Obviously he wanted to check me out and didn’t want to give his real door number to me until he saw me. Fortunately no one was home at no.8
Then when I was getting showered before we started I didn’t shut the shower door properly and his bathroom floor got filled with water. He was ok about that saying he should have told me about the door thing. 
In my excitement at my first client I left home without my wash bag which had my massage oil, lube, condoms etc in. So I had to ask my client if he had any oil and condoms. He opened a bedside drawer and provided all the necessities…
Afterwards I forgot to ask him for payment. As I was leaving he said “don’t you want paying Dick?” (Dick was the ridiculous ‘nom de plume’ I’d decided on for my escort career but I soon dropped it because guys would call and say “hi is this Dick” and I’d instinctively say “no it’s Jamie” and they’d say “oh sorry wrong number”). 
I think he was amused by my puppy like enthusiasm and naivety. He gave me a nice tip but didn’t hire me again. 
Then, when I got home I realised I’d left a thong I’d worn at his place. I really hope his wife didn’t find it…
I’d say if you hire a newbie provider then be like my client and be understanding. He enjoyed my enthusiasm and I’m sure he had a laugh to himself afterwards. If he’d been an arsehole about my faux pax I’d probably not have continued with doing the work. 
 

It happens. Unfortunately. I’ve had similar (travelling to clients only to have them ghost me when I got there). It all happens…and there’s a red flag every time.
I had it recently with a client who’d booked twice previously and cancelled both sessions for various outlandish reasons. Third time he books and I think ‘ok this time maybe he will go ahead’. Then on the day before he sends a weird message saying ‘hi Jamie I’ve decided to offer my massage to someone else, and I might watch and join in’.  What’s that about??? I replied to tell him I’d cancelled it because I couldn’t accept that proposal. He asked me to rethink and he’d come alone but after the previous issues I just told him I couldn’t see him. It’s just not worth the risk. 
I guess he was anxious about coming and instead of just saying ‘I’m sorry I’ve changed my mind because I’m anxious’ we could have dealt with it but he came up with some weird plan. People sometimes behave strangely when dealing with us. You just have to recognise the red flags and respond accordingly. 

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Ha ha yes this happens. I just ask them when they’d like. They need to commit to it. I find the vague ones tend to be flaky. 
Worse is the client who at last minute wants a specific time. A recent example:
Client: hi are you free this afternoon?
Me: yes I can do 3:30 to 6. Does that work? 
Client: nothing earlier?
me: around 1pm?
Client: I can’t do that early…
Me: 🫠
I mean why didn’t he just ask for 2pm or so??? 

 
 

This. Turn him over and ride him until he ends happily. You can massage his pecs at same time. That’s what I’ve done. Works fine. 

“Hi, I’d really love it if you were ok to do a short video of our session, just for me so that I can view it between our meetings. Is that something you’d be ok with and if so how much would it be?” Something like that.
I get asked for ‘extras’ occasionally and it’s almost always a painful experience because the client is reticent about asking. They drop hints, or talk around it…and it’s frustrating! Just ask it straight, be polite but be clear about what you want. Your provider will 100% not be offended or upset. They’ll appreciate you being direct. 

Gold means he’s paying top price for advertising on RentMasseur. They have 3 levels and if you go for the top one (Gold) you get more features and prominence as a masseur. I do the Gold option because otherwise the site has limited use for me.
Certified means he has sent to RM his massage qualification certificate. In some jurisdictions it’s mandatory to have such certification if you’re advertising massage services. 
I wouldn’t attach too much meaning to either if you’re thinking that these are indicative of quality. Best to look at reviews, see how long he’s been practicing and advertising, and go by how he responds to any enquiry. 
 

I’d say it’s more likely for the price to go up if the client is difficult or unreliable more than if they’re older or not in great shape. Certainly I’m not bothered about age or shape and that never affects the price. Everyone pays the same. However, I do find clients who are disrespectful, unreliable (flaky) or not clean more difficult to see and so those people, if they come back, will attract a higher rate. Call it an ‘asshole premium’. Usually when I tell them the rate for their next visit they change their mind. Job done 🙂

I’m sure it happens because I know clients of mine who see other guys that I know, in some instances I have recommended them.
I’ve also had other providers I know contact me about a client to ask if they’re genuine (as in reliable to turn up) because the client had mentioned he’d seen me. In a couple of those it was because the client had seen us both together in videos. Other times it’s because I get enquiries about 4 hands so I send the client the details of the guys I do that with. 
There’s a line though that one doesn’t cross whether it’s discussing other providers with clients or clients with providers and that’s details about their identity or their performance. People’s confidentiality is sacrosanct, so is their self esteem. I only say positive things if asked “would x be good?”. I’m happy to share if a client was flaky or wanted to negotiate on price but that’s it. What someone likes doing etc is not for me to share because it’s up to each individual (provider or client) to decide whether the other person is good for them. 
 

Key to this is that if the guy says he will definitely do something in the session and it’s part of his quoted rate then he should honour that in the session. No good to say you’ll kiss and then decline to do so or only do it for extra cost. That’s poor form. I do think that kissing shouldn’t be an extra cost thing but that’s just my personal preference. I agree with @keroscenefirethat kissing is kind of an essential. But of course for some it’s too intimate and might even be considered too ‘gay’ if someone is exploring their sexuality. 
If I’m asked will I cum in the clients mouth I’ll say it’s possible but not definite because I can’t be sure to do that (much as I’d like to cum on demand it’s not always possible especially if I’ve seen a few clients). However kissing is something that is possible and I’m always good to do that subject to the client’s oral hygiene. There’s two sides to this issue: if you want to be kissed make sure you brushed and used mouthwash. Similarly if you want to be rimmed make sure you’ve showered. If you want to cum in my mouth make sure you’ve been eating pineapple (well….maybe not that far but please don’t have eaten asparagus thank you)😂
 

I agree with @soloyo215, why pay the deposit before all the details are agreed? I guess that because he advertises as offering the activities you wanted you probably assumed he’d be willing to do them, which seems reasonable. My guess is he’s willing to include those activities but selectively depending on the client. If that’s the case then you probably saved yourself a bad meet. The money sounds like it’s gone. 

Filming for Onlyfans happens daytime too!  Most of my filming is daytime. As the title of the conversation says it’s very difficult to do this work whilst doing a 9 to 5. I know a lot of guys who do sex work and none of them have a conventional 9 to 5 job. Most either do it full time or have a part time job.
You have to be extremely flexible with your schedule doing this job. My week can change very quickly from being almost empty to being full; I can start the day with plans to do my laundry go to the gym and then update my website and end up having done none of those things but will have seen 2 clients. It’s quite random so you get used to changing plans.
What’s annoying as @Jarrod_Uncutsays is the clients who prevaricate about booking. If you’re thinking of booking but your plans aren’t firm then don’t bother asking. Only ask if you’re certain you want to book because the worst thing is holding a time for someone who might book or who is trying to arrange his schedule.
Lengthy discussions about scheduling are usually fruitless. I now don’t bother with the “I might book for x time I’ll let you know” guys. If by the time you make your mind up I’m still free then fine but I’m not going to turn down other things just because you can’t organise your plans. 

Ask the guy you hire for suggestions. Tell him what you like and use his expertise to structure it.
For longer sessions I’ve included things like an undressing, shower together, obviously massage, a break for refreshments (snack, drink), gym session or workout, watch some porn (preferably mine 🤪), stretching/yoga. There’s loads of things you can do around having physical fun together too.
You can also invite another provider for part of the session to mix things up if you have the budget for that. I’ve done sessions where it’s me with the client for the whole time but another guy joins us for part of it. I’d recommend that if you did that then it’s best for the two providers to know each other so that they’re comfortable together and can focus on you during the session. 

Late night last minute requests are usually a sign of trouble. I don’t get many but I avoid them. Sorry I’m not available…
However a pre-booked (> 1 day in advance) at 11pm is fine, but no later. I prefer morning bookings: 10am set the day up nicely!

I did a tickling session for a client one time. He wanted a tickle massage. Tickle massage isn’t in my repertoire although I offer tailored massages to suit clients requirements (if it’s something I’m reasonably comfortable to include in a massage setting….think undressing rituals, restraints, toys, wrestling kit / clothing etc). So this client asked if I could tickle him during the massage. He didn’t want to tickle back, which I was grateful for. I like interaction but am not keen on being tickled.
It all sounded quite interesting and so I agreed. The client booked an hour and everything was set up. On the day he turns up and is charming, sexy and excited. He strips, I’m in my shorts, and I start in by doing some breathing and head massage to relax him. After about a minute of head massage he asks me to start the tickling. This is kind of a little sooner than I had anticipated but fine, it’s his massage so I tickle his neck. He loves it. I apply oil and do some massage strokes but he wants more tickling. So I tickle him some more, in the usual tickle places. He responds enthusiastically. 
After some time ticking because my hands are beginning to tire I revert to normal massage but once I’d done a few long massage strokes he asks for more tickling. Now I’m running out of tickle moves. I’ve tickled all the normal tickle parts and I’m not sure if body parts like calves or biceps are ticklish so I just start to go off piste and tickle anything. 
I discovered that on this client everything was ticklish except for one part….his cock, which didn’t respond at all. Expecting he’d want to get off I started to work on his cock in the more ‘traditional’ way but he just asked me to go back to the ticklish bits. Honestly I’ve never worked so hard…. Tickling someone for an hour is exhausting, and without even the prize of a load at the end (he didn’t want a release). He told me he loved the session but I must admit I found it challenging. 
If asked again for a tickle massage I’d have to say I can do it for about 10 minutes and mix it in to a sensual massage but I’d not do tickle only. I salute anyone who could deliver that! I think you might find a guy willing to do it but they’d probably charge more than their normal rate. 


 

Ask out straight. I always prefer clients to be straight to the point (asked politely of course) with questions. It’s a relief when someone knows what they want, can ask for it and be respectful about it.