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@sbguy, I was lectured the other day online about mental health etc. by two married men, telling me that the measures are for the greater good etc. I find it rich that those who are not single and have others in their homes with them, even roommates, believe they understand what the isolation is like. I am a bit of an introvert, so I do enjoy my alone time. But weeks and weeks of no real human interaction with someone you care about at all on an emotional level is unhealthy. Until you go through it, you shouldn’t lecture others on it. Particularly as it comes to bear on mental health. That’s how I feel when people lecture me on the morality of isolation…Here endeth the pontification! The toll of this pandemic really can’t be measured. We won’t take into account the cost of all the consequences from isolation, to say nothing of the longterm economic impact. It took 6 weeks to have over 14 million people in the US alone unemployed. Those jobs won’t come back nearly as fast. And unemployment brings with it health issues, if indirectly. It’s not just about making money. It’s about providing a life for people too. Yes – some people value money over people’s lives and that’s heinous. But unless some massive social safety net program the likes of which this country has never done before is implemented, people will experience wider reaching health and wellbeing problems from a laggard economy plagued by unemployment. Given the current political landscape in this country what with the Trumpers and his sycophants in Congress and governorships, such a social welfare program won’t happen.

I suspect therapeutics will change the game. And people will grow accustomed to the risk. As the longterm effects of isolation and so forth wear on, people will simply be willing to risk it. There’s already a host of activities people do that are extremely risky and put others at risk but we discount them because we’re accustomed to it.

I was reached out to by a guy yesterday I communicated with months ago about getting together and then he just disappeared. ? Now he says, “I’ll take you up on your offer.” Then nothing more when I responded. I’m thinking I’ll pass. But I suspect he reached out because business has largely ground to a halt.

Bingo. We need to stop acting like we will eventually wipe this out. Fauci has said numerous times, since this has reached pandemic level, it’s here. Even a vaccine won’t eliminate the risk. So – how are we going to learn to live with it. Hiding forever is an option, but it’s not a good one.

I’m not advocating we re-open everything right now. Some places, a lot of places shouldn’t open at all yet. That said… In other countries that do not have nearly as good of healthcare as we do, they face death on a day-to-day basis, death precipitated by disease we don’t worry about contending with. In the western first world we have largely inoculated ourselves from the effects of death, deceiving ourselves into believing that we are immune, yet this pandemic has brought it home to us that we too won’t escape it. What a privilege that we have to be able to ask the question whether living our day-to-day lives might cause death. What a privilege it is to ask the question if going about normal life could endanger our lives or someone else’s life. Others around the world face the same reality but still go about their lives. That isn’t to say that we don’t engage these questions, but a certain amount of perspective in light of our privilege I think can be illuminating.

Let’s hope a secondary effect of all this will be an increased readiness to get the flu shot too.

To get back to life, in some semblance of “normalcy,” according to the notorious, omnipresent “soon” employed by every “expert” and politican, we don’t need to know if we have 5 years of immunity – unless of course that “soon” they keep using is indeed longer than we all conventionally understand it to be… (Cynicism about how people are reading what they want into this, panic and anger alike…) Some good news: Scientists Create Antibody That Defeats Coronavirus in Lab

There is always a risk of getting sick, with any number of illnesses. It so happens presently we are fixated on one illness, which our present data does suggest is more virulent than other common diseases. I once postponed a meetup because I was sick. In part because I was sick but I also wanted the escort to have the chance to decide what he wanted to do. He decided postponing was a good idea and thanked me for postponing so he didn’t get sick. That was all before COVID. The point? If you’re sick, you can make someone else sick. There’s always risk.

Regarding the WHO on antibodies – While, yes, there’s no conclusive evidence that antibodies confer immunity, there’s no conclusive evidence to suggest you can get reinfected either. Watching South Korean doctors speak on this, they believe more strongly in the idea that relapse, not reinfection (two different but distinct categories in virology), is the likelier cause for the instances of folks turning up with resurgence of symptoms after testing negative. The tests can only detect the viral load at a certain level. Under that, the virus can still be present, but not register on the test. Thus producing a negative result. In the case of antibodies, we are assuming, as we do for almost every other disease out there, that some level of immunity is conferred from exposure. That’s the whole premise of a vaccine – confer immunity of some degree by artificially introducing the antibody-producing components of the virus to the host. If antibody immunity is off the table, the silver bullet vaccine won’t work either. Fauci has said that it’s not highly unlikely, given this is a coronavirus, that some sort of durable – perhaps not life-long, but durable – immunity is conferred. It’s really a matter of when it kicks in and for how long. So, the headlines that have been swirling about this “news” are likely misleading, create unnecessary panic, and drive up clicks. Regarding the OP in general – I have long said, I want all these measures to be data driven. I expect that when we relax some, at first, we’ll see upticks. The question is how our behavioral changes will affect future data and likewise future behavioral changes. But again, I say, all changes should be data driven – not fear or anger driven. There’s a lot of reactivity around anger and fear right now...

I suspect it doesn’t work anymore either. I was emailing with a guy and all of a sudden it stopped and it doesn’t say “seen” either. What a dumb, dumb, dumb “innovation.”

I’ve communicated with him a bit. It’s not been the greatest (rather hit or miss) but I don’t want to read too much into it. Has anyone met with him and willing to give feedback? I’d make a trip to NYC for an overnight if guys could give substantive positive feedback. But based off text interactions, I’m leaning toward no simply because he doesn’t seem invested. I would welcome any and I all thoughts!

Okay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I loved every minute with him. He’s kind, attentive, smart, a good conversationist. And he’s respectful.

No agenda other than sharing my experience. Take my opinion or leave it. But don’t attack me for it.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I shared my opinion. Just like you. Just because I disagree with you and had a different opinion doesn’t mean I’m disrespectful.

Prepay or not...I don’t know why you’d hire a guy who’s abused others like that in the past.

I’d avoid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As a followup, motivated out of cynicism and no real justification more than that, I suspect he’s looking for a sugar daddy type.

Agreed. Why do some also get the red carpet treatment and others get robbed – or at least treated extremely rudely?

That’s enough really for me. I was on the fence about it.

So no? No one with real-life info?

Same exact thing happened with me. Very shallow.

Soooo…Anyone ever meet with him?

I’m not feeling super inspired by these reviews or attempted tries to meet with him. Seems very flakey.

Considering... Hopeful that “very open-minded to all ages(18+) and all body types” means that. As a general comment, I find escorts don’t want to discuss specialty concerns ahead of time but they’ll list it on their profiles. I get they don’t want to waste time, but sometimes it’s nice to know up front if you’ll be a good fit.