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I just did a whole thread on this here. But basically it's because the recent surge of migrants into the US has mostly been Venezulans (about 40% from one estimate) with Colombians, Haitians, and Central Americans being another significant percentage. About 7 million Venezuelans have emigrated from their country over the last few years with many of them first going to Colombia (where they often meet up and travel with Colombians to the US). Because Biden granted Temporary Protected Status to about 400,000 Venezuelans who arrived here before July 31, 2023, many of these migrants can live and even work in the US legally. But many have to wait months for the bureacratic process of getting a work permit and/or they arrived after July 31st and are not able to work legally. Sex work has long been one of the few options available when there are few legal ways to work so that's why we're seeing so many Venezuelans in sex work now. I've also noticed that there's long been quite a few Colombians and Venezuelans on OnlyFans and Chaturbate and places like that. I think they are pretty active online and so it was easy for them to figure out Rent.Men compared to maybe other migrant populations.

This is Andres. The main guy I have met in Denver. https://rent.men/Andresssantan

Denver definitely has several guys that charge $250 and those are often the guys I meet more regularly. Interestingly, they are not migrants and I am not sure why they charge less except maybe that they have been doing it for longer and are in the mindset of what they charged before the pandemic? I am not actually sure if the migrants have any effect on the prices of Denver. The ones I met all wanted $300. That's starting to be more common in Denver but yeah we have kind of a lot of guys for how small the city. Definitely if I say, oh sorry that's a bit more than I can afford right now, I very often get offered a lower price.

I appreciate this perspective and actually went back and forth with doing the thread at all for the reason you say. I don't personally think "migrant men" implies any kind of discount. To me it's more of an acknowledgement that there are some things to consider when you are wanting to spend time with a migrant escort. My hope more than anything is that this thread might encourage people to try spending time with a migrant escort and that they shouldn't worry as much about any potential issues. And certainly that they should pay them for what they ask. I for one never negotiate down. I always either accept or not accept the suggested donation. Migrants are in a complex and challanging position in the US and I actually hope that those of us who are in this hobby can feel comfortable hiring these guys (if they are interested) and giving them the money they may not have many other opportunities to earn in other ways.

In RM in Denver. There's like 5 guys that are definitely recent migrants with ads currently up. Another guy's just recently expired...not sure why. We have 23 "latin guys" currently though most are guys who've been around a bit and are not recent migrants. Also 19 came up when you put "Espanol" as the language and interestingly they are not all the same guys.

I think he's probably real. A lot of gays are really into supernatural stuff. I just had a guy ask to do my whole astrology chart at a bar yesterday. I don't know if he'll be successful but I do think it's real. The profile is too much work to be a joke.

I thought about trying to teach them a little English but I don't want to be exploitive about it. One guy was a bit interested in that but the other guy (Morbid penetration) like didn't even change the ad language when I told him that was a weird thing to have in your ad. Haha.

I am fine negotating whatever with any escort and if they go for $250 instead of $300 that is great. I just don't think there is any reason to do that to a migrant escort over a citizen escort. A legal resident/citizen escort can do other jobs that a migrant cannot. Most guys I know have other full or part-time jobs in addition to escorting and my guess is that a lot of their escort money is not taxed like their regular job.

I meant more the perception that they are "new and naive." I agree. I don't think they are very naive. They very much know what they are worth and they have travelled thousands of miles and are pretty in tune with sex work. The guys I am talking about lived in Colombia first (one if Venezuelan and the other is Colombian) and did cam shows and OnlyFans stuff there before making the trek to the US. So they really have been doing this for a while and my point is really that we shouldn't assume they are naive just because they are new to the country.

I have only met two guys. With the second guy, he said something about how the first guy said I was cool, like a good client I guess. He appeciated that I knew some Spanish I think more than anything. Haha. Then I asked him if they knew each other and he said that they were friends and that they lived together. I'm probably a bit more inquisitive than I should be but yeah I basically just got to talking them a bit and they told me a bit about their situation. I also found their social media and OnlyFans and they definitely mess with each other on there. I met with the first guy again and he also said he's living with a few guys in north Denver. Interstingly, that hotel you stayed at when you were in Denver they now use to house migrants. Mostly families though. They are the only ones that are allowed to stay there more than like a week. But many were staying on the sidewalks right next to it. They did a sweep though right before we had a cold snap (got down to -10) so I am not sure where they ended up. I guess in shelters somewhere. I never mind hosting so if you pop through again to Denver, you're welcome to come by. Just a warning that my place is kind of small though. Haha.

Thanks. Yeah I do think some of these guys could be vulnerable to human trafficking and I do think it is good to be careful of that. I don't think the main group in Denver is that as far as I can tell. I have always hosted though and have met them outside my place and walked them in. Interestingly, they have no problem taking Ubers from wherever they are staying and did not ask for me to pay for the Uber at all. They also do not want to host so my thought is maybe they are staying with someone who they don't want to know about their side hustle. It does sound like they possibly live together though so who knows.

Denver, like many cities, has seen the arrival of many migrant men in the last year or so. Primarily from South America, some of the sexiest men are turning to escorting while many other opportunities remain closed to them. I've had a bit of experience with the guys in Denver, but am definitely curious if other on here have had encounters as well. A few things I've gathered: 1) Most have come within the last year and know little to no English. Unless you communicate to them in Spanish, they likely will be using Google translate to communicate with you. Some things are often lost in translation and you see it in the ads as well. One guy in Denver says he enjoys "morbid penetration"in his ad. Not trying to make fun of these guys, but you have to realize that they may not be able to communicate in English well. 2) That said, they are fun, sexy guys that have a genuine aim to please. I've found these guys have been among my best recent hires. They have limits of course but they are willing to do quite a lot and have nice dicks and sexy bodies. I've always found they look exactly like their pictures. They are willing to send pics of themselves for verification. And if you know Spanish, they are interesting conversationalists. Some have definitely had quite a journey in life. 3) They often live together in groups. There's defnitely a group of about 3-4 guys who are living together in Denver. It sounds like they're more friends then boyfriends but they apparently would be down to work together and I know they also do OnlyFans and other things together. I don't get the vibe that they are being taken advantage of anything. I certainly hope that is not the case. 4) Overall, if there's a new Latin guy that catches your eye, I say go for it! They do know the business though and they charge the standard $300 as most guys in Denver do. We shouldn't try to go cheap on them just because they are new or naive. I think they are absolutely worth donating what they ask. Anyone else have recent experiences with recent arrivals to our country? Any tips or experiences to share? I'd be curious if and how a non-Spanish speaking person hired one. Also we no longer have a politics thread for good reason, so please don't view this thread as an invitation to any kind of political discussion or anti-immigration talk. I am just honestly curious how other members have interacted with these guys or even if they are in many other cities. Denver has a solid half-dozen guys but perhaps we are an outlier.

It looks more hetero-oriented to me. Am I missing something?

Just curious if any of the Rocky Mountain Members would like to share where they are from. I'm in Denver.

I don't know about investing but it's aparently an absolute bargain to travel there. You can get 364 Argentinan pesos to the dollar and the value actually holds up. I had friends visit a few months ago and they said they could eat at a very nice restaurant: Literally servers in tuxedos, multi-course meals, wine, really good steak, dessert, etc. They said they got the bill, did the exchange rate math and it was less than $20 per person for a meal they said would easily be $100+ in the US.

Yes gas is more expensive now than it was in then in 2020 at the height of lockdowns when nobody drove anywhere. But actually gas is lower now than it was for much of the period from 2011-2014 (Arab Spring related oil disruptions) as well. Weekly U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon) WWW.EIA.GOV

Porn stars maybe? Casey Everett is a porn star anyway. I've had a few similar-ish experiences of porn starts cancelling last minute. I think the risk is if they are called onto a shoot where they'll make $1000, they're not going to worry about your hundreds. I had a guy basically say exactly that to me. I don't take it personal.

I attempted one time when he visited Denver, but it was hard to get a hold of him. Sounds like a good experience if you can though.

U.S. gas prices are falling and could hit the cheapest Thanksgiving day price since 2020 WWW.CNBC.COM Gas prices have fallen for nine weeks now on a seasonal weakening of demand and a drop in crude oil prices. Gas prices are falling. We're having our lowest Thanksgiving gas prices since 2020. All good news for inflation since gas prices are built into other costs including transportation, air fare, etc. In Colorado, you can find gas below $3.00 a gallon. Definitely helping me save money.

All good choices, IMO: https://rent.men/ShermanMaus https://rent.men/KevinSlater https://rent.men/MikeGaite https://rent.men/ChicagoVerseFun https://rent.men/SirDionX

I've started to return to therapy as well. I really do not like antidepressants because they mess up my sex drive and kinda make me feel "numb." But my therapist thinks regular talk therapy should be enough and making sure I keep up the swimming and other exercises. We forget how much that can help with mental as well as physical health.

I did meet this Danny Cruz. Great guy who was really turning his escorting into a really interesting podcast thing and doing a lot of activism/advocacy for escorts generally and male ones in particularly. He was even interviewed for the New York Times when the FBI closed Rentboy. Unfortunately I don't think he escorts any more and it looks like he hadn't since before the pandemic. Too bad...He was a very attractive guy and had super-smart and fun to talk to.

I also do like $40 cash back every time I go to the grocery store. That plus my side gig usually means I can save up the $250-$300 in a month to hire one guy.

If you notice the one where he's lying down, he has a bit of acne on his face. To me that's no big deal and I'd rather he be honest about it. But yeah I think that may be part of it.

Thanks for the copy/paste @56harrisond! Yeah even for buying porn subs, I switched to a credit card because PayPal would not let me buy it. It's so weird why they would even care.