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Oh, it is important to cow-toe to those guys who are just plain ole prostitutes. Thoughts like this are what got us paying $300 and more. I completely disagree.

I think you always want to be perceived as a generous client in these transactions; I believe it is a good investment!

From where I sat, the only regret I could have that was worse than getting in that situation would have been to get HIV and think there was an action I should have taken.
 
The risk to tops is less, but not non-existent. I wonder how many tops contracted HIV with no other explanation (did not ottom, no IV drug use, etc.)? I was not willing to risk it for me, my partner, my family.

I hear you about peace of mind. I had a massage about a year ago in SF. Made it clear I was not looking for sex, but wanted sensual and legit massage... and asked if he was ok being nude and allowing mutual touch. It was a great experience until the last 15 min. The MT had him aroused, which I found fun. He straddled me and with my junk behind him, stroked me with his hand behind his back. I came, and finished him with my hand. It was all great until he asked if I wanted to cum. I was so confused at first, like ... how could he not know? I said I already did - and he asked, “In me??”. Took a few seconds for me to realize he’d slipped me in him. I would never believe someone would not know had I not gone through this. I asked if he was at least on PrEP, and he said no. He had not asked me a single health question. Not one. Suffice to say, I freaked. Got on PEP immediately. Could not put through insurance. This was $4026 of meds for one month, which THANK GOD I got a one time voucher for. Very expensive lesson. I know my risk was low based on topping, but to not take action was not an option. The regret would be a bigger problem. I now carry condoms ALL the time, and have made a project out of finding the best ones. (Trojan Supra non-latex, no odor.)

I hear you about peace of mind. I had a massage about a year ago in SF. Made it clear I was not looking for sex, but wanted sensual and legit massage... and asked if he was ok being nude and allowing mutual touch. It was a great experience until the last 15 min. The MT had him aroused, which I found fun. He straddled me and with my junk behind him, stroked me with his hand behind his back. I came, and finished him with my hand. It was all great until he asked if I wanted to cum. I was so confused at first, like ... how could he not know? I said I already did - and he asked, “In me??”. Took a few seconds for me to realize he’d slipped me in him. I would never believe someone would not know had I not gone through this. I asked if he was at least on PrEP, and he said no. He had not asked me a single health question. Not one. Suffice to say, I freaked. Got on PEP immediately. Could not put through insurance. This was $4026 of meds for one month, which THANK GOD I got a one time voucher for. Very expensive lesson. I know my risk was low based on topping, but to not take action was not an option. The regret would be a bigger problem. I now carry condoms ALL the time, and have made a project out of finding the best ones. (Trojan Supra non-latex, no odor.)

I hear you about peace of mind. I had a massage about a year ago in SF. Made it clear I was not looking for sex, but wanted sensual and legit massage... and asked if he was ok being nude and allowing mutual touch. It was a great experience until the last 15 min. The MT had him aroused, which I found fun. He straddled me and with my junk behind him, stroked me with his hand behind his back. I came, and finished him with my hand. It was all great until he asked if I wanted to cum. I was so confused at first, like ... how could he not know? I said I already did - and he asked, “In me??”. Took a few seconds for me to realize he’d slipped me in him. I would never believe someone would not know had I not gone through this. I asked if he was at least on PrEP, and he said no. He had not asked me a single health question. Not one. Suffice to say, I freaked. Got on PEP immediately. Could not put through insurance. This was $4026 of meds for one month, which THANK GOD I got a one time voucher for. Very expensive lesson. I know my risk was low based on topping, but to not take action was not an option. The regret would be a bigger problem. I now carry condoms ALL the time, and have made a project out of finding the best ones. (Trojan Supra non-latex, no odor.)

I just had another incredible massage with Takashi. I wanted a legit deep tissue and he worked his ass off. I also wanted to enjoy feeling sensual, and that managed to be done VERY well without sacrificing massage intensity. This being my fourth visit - we have achieved a great rapport and chemistry.
 
I don’t know why this perfect balance has been so hard for me to find in others, but he’s a keeper. All of the feedback on these forums gave me a different perspective before this last appointment. I really got to pay attention to his craft, his care that I be really pleased, and that balance I wanted in a sensual and therapeutic experience. Kudos to you all on this forum for helping me to not take anything for granted. A+++ Takashi!

I just had another incredible massage with Takashi. I wanted a legit deep tissue and he worked his ass off. I also wanted to enjoy feeling sensual, and that managed to be done VERY well without sacrificing massage intensity. This being my fourth visit - we have achieved a great rapport and chemistry.
 
I don’t know why this perfect balance has been so hard for me to find in others, but he’s a keeper. All of the feedback on these forums gave me a different perspective before this last appointment. I really got to pay attention to his craft, his care that I be really pleased, and that balance I wanted in a sensual and therapeutic experience. Kudos to you all on this forum for helping me to not take anything for granted. A+++ Takashi!

I just had another incredible massage with Takashi. I wanted a legit deep tissue and he worked his ass off. I also wanted to enjoy feeling sensual, and that managed to be done VERY well without sacrificing massage intensity. This being my fourth visit - we have achieved a great rapport and chemistry.
 
I don’t know why this perfect balance has been so hard for me to find in others, but he’s a keeper. All of the feedback on these forums gave me a different perspective before this last appointment. I really got to pay attention to his craft, his care that I be really pleased, and that balance I wanted in a sensual and therapeutic experience. Kudos to you all on this forum for helping me to not take anything for granted. A+++ Takashi!

It's deep tissue, but they apologize constantly for using too much pressure.

Thanks I’m trying Chad Ryan.

God, he’s BEAUTIFUL.

Chad is the epitome of sensual. I mean... THE EPITOME

That kind of depends on "what I want" means. I'll assume you're talking about something that still falls into the category of "massage." But here's a couple things to keep in mind.
 
When law enforcement sends in their vice squad, they usually target storefronts and the like, not individuals who work out of an apartment or who travel to clients. They like to go on the news and say "we arrested dozens of people in a prostitution sting," cause they think that bigger numbers look better.
 
Is there risk in hiring someone to perform a massage of an erotic nature? Sure, in theory. Generally speaking though, the risk is minimal, especially if you check out the service provider for reviews, etc. Not all providers will do things of a .... non-therapeutic nature (for lack of a better phrase coming to mind).

I have not heard of any law enforcement issues. Maybe the police have bigger fish to fry. Any stories I should learn from though?

I had same experience/s as maninsoma.
Chad I'd go back to also.

Funny how different people can have different experiences. My experience with Pan was sensual but not particularly therapeutic. This was years ago so maybe his set-up is better now, but I basically got a light bodyrub on a thin futon on the floor followed by a nice body-to-body rub. Chad definitely had massage skills and the table to go along with them. The massage also turned more erotic towards the end.
 
I agree that their body types are totally different -- or at least they were when I hired them both a few years ago. Chad is less than average in height and has a tight, compact, slightly muscled physique (and a cute-as-a-button face and charming demeanor). Pan is much more muscular.
 
I wouldn't discourage anyone from hiring either of them, but if I were to choose to return to one of them my choice would be Chad.

My top two are:
 
Takashi
Karl Kang
 
 
You can do a search on them for discussion.
Karl Kang is well received. Takashi has been recently talked about. I happened to see him today and would recommend.
 
Those are the two Asians on my rotation.
 
Both have comfortable apartment. Takashi is in better neighborhood though they are close to each other.
 
PM if you need more

I just had my second massage with Takashi today. He’s polite and sweet, and gives a helluva massage! And, the pics on RentMasseur are absolutely him. I stared at them after seeing these threads, and I do not understand the confusion. He’s HOT, and was very enthusiastic about pleasing me. There are a few good Massuers I have seen in SF - but Takashi is the total package. Cannot WAIT to go back!

I just had my second massage with Takashi today. He’s polite and sweet, and gives a helluva massage! And, the pics on RentMasseur are absolutely him. I stared at them after seeing these threads, and I do not understand the confusion. He’s HOT, and was very enthusiastic about pleasing me. There are a few good Massuers I have seen in SF - but Takashi is the total package. Cannot WAIT to go back!