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That strikes me as a specious argument. We wanted the same rights as others, so that means there should be no hotline to deal with gay issues, suicide or otherwise?
If a deeply closeted gay teen is contemplating suicide because of shame regarding his sexuality, doesn’t it make sense that he would be more willing or likely to get help from someone he views as having a similar experience?  Hence the gay suicide hotline.
 
When you’re scared to death that someone will find out, the only person you want to tell is someone else who is gay. That’s my view at least, from someone who grew up in the Bible Belt, and was constantly told that I was going to Hell.
 

From other discussions 
 
 
 

So sad. When Ben was still alive, there were consistent actions.

Because I wouldn’t want to spend a cent of my hard earned money on someone who is actually supporting a party who is anti LGbTQ especially when he himself is gay and make his living from servicing that community. I for one can’t also imagine why you would only focus on the “experience” and not take a provider’s character into account.

Small club entry cash fee. Pay drinks as you go, cash or server’s card reader. No entry fee to take a dancer to private area. Don’t be wary about dancers approaching you for small talk. A tip is not expected or asked for; the principle is nothing ventured nothing gained. Dancers earnings are predominantly from private dances. Once in a while a dancer may get a cash tip while doing his stage show but they don’t circulate off stage as part of the performance. ATM on site for cash if needed. A few bucks charge for each transaction. If you see a dancer taken up chatting on the main bar floor and you aren’t sure it’s culminating in earnings for him, yet you don’t want to interrupt, ask a server to tell him you would like to say hi but it’s implicit you will likely want to go to the private area with him. Polite give and take. Bar Stock, not Campus, has real time video streaming for a subscription fee if you want to get a preview. Watch out for auto renewal charge on that platform as you may need to specify setting expiry. Enjoy. 

Sure, a visitor comes here and stays within a few block radius with the aim of capitalizing on the unique offerings of hassle-fee eroticized fun.
Renders a fact-deficient opinion related to the complexities of poverty; mental health; and the confluence of street-based social services, on-the-spot non-police roving team minor dispute resolution, health care worker street-based triage, shelter outreach, and police presence assessing the wellness of the majority of innocuous unhoused citizens. 
The city’s aim is not to clear out the unhoused; there are no permanent housing options. There are more overnight homeless than there are shelter beds. That The Village is considered by some as a representative microcosm of the unfortunate reality of homelessness in Montreal is laughable. There are far greater clusters in the broader downtown area where co-existence is quite as manageable as it is for the relatively tame Village environment. 
Where I reside it’s not possible to walk to food markets without dozens of unhoused adults hanging out on walkways and stoops. They don’t bother me. For the most part they share survival tips among themselves, and they are far more exemplars of sub-community banding and bonding together within commonly unfortunate circumstances than they are nuisances. Sure, they have disagreements similar to any family system. Most importantly, they are far above snobbery and not bitter towards those to whom a rotten life deal was not dispensed. 

I had a great massage.with a guy named John there. I think it was about a year ago.  We did ALOT! 

So sorry to hear that both of you guys had to experience that!🤬totally unacceptable! When one is with a client, whatever the job is, you are to focus on that client and nothing else, it’s called respect firstly. And secondly if you want your business to flourish, and your client roster to grow, this is not the way to do so. 

I go to any city in any country and I know where I’m going to get extras and where I won’t. And it’s not from this site. 

I get that the moderators don’t want to have reports about sexual escapades at spas, but you’ve got to be naive to think this is where they uncover where to go. Anyone with half a brain knows what goes on at each of these spas. And they don’t use these forums as evidence. Evidence comes when they visit. 
 
Do I think this is a waste of NYPD time? 100%. But it is still illegal and we all take risks, primarily the business owners who profit from an illegal business practice. 
 
There is a reason this type of spa is hard to find in most other cities outside of NYC. 

Went to see Jay at Batman (for crowd who yelled at me for asking what Batman Jay looked like: NOT the Jay at HK27) - tall Asian, hefty hot with surprisingly GIANT biceps. Massage was one of the strongest I’ve ever had, and he jumps right in from the beginning. Very, ahem, active presence. Lots of oil (the most I’ve ever had used), which I know some don’t love. Liked that it was $20 cheaper than HK27 for such a strong massage, would repeat. I prob won’t answer if you DM me for further details fyi

So I went in for a 60 min massage today - deep tissue, tantric with Danny. Wat a great massage! Really great technique, he used his hot little body and melted mine! DM for details if interested. Nice studio - clean and easy to get to off 14th St. Will def be going back. 

Like the police need a chat group to know that these m4m spas peddle flesh 🤣

haha - this was obviously a disgruntled staff member who was let go because they sucked at what they do. 
I went to EMS weekly and never had that experience, in fact, quite the opposite. 
Maybe this was the douche-bag that filed several complaints. 

Bye, guhrl. Keep burying your head in the sand. 

I always look forward to getting a massage at 27 Men’s Spa whenever I’m in New York—I’ve always had a great experience. The last time, about seven months ago, I had Sandro, and it was excellent.
However, yesterday’s experience was really disappointing. I had Alex, and it felt like all he wanted to do was rush through the massage, get me off, collect a tip, and be done with it.
To make it worse, just before I left, another masseur reminded me to leave a tip. I was surprised because I always tip when I’m satisfied, and none of the previous masseurs ever asked for one directly.
This time, it felt pushy and inappropriate, which really put me off.

Everyone's favorite toss-around term for things they don't agree with..."fascism".
I wonder what broad stroke definition Sullivan was using in this article 🤔.
There has always been a dynamic between powerful people and young attractive men and women who use their beauty to get ahead in the world. I've worked at Calvin Klein and witnessed this dance on daily basis. There was a lot of tail wagging and ass sniffing (so to speak) and I had the impression everyone knew the game. Even with myself..I was hired to a position I really had no business having at such a young age..but for the fact the head of the department's eyes popped out of his head when he first met me. Oggled me, fawned over me and made plenty of innuendo about "helping me get ahead". In the end I never did sleep with him, but I certainly understood that I might have to, in exchange for the opportunity.  In my opinion, had I actually done so...I would NOT be of the opinion today that I had been so coerced into sex with this man that I would subsequently be seeking restitution for sexual misconduct. I would merely be chalking it up to one of many life's twists and turns that a young person must engage in his way up the ladder. I think most of these cases are nonsense and wholly opportunistic. Everyone knew that Bruce Weber used his fame to get laid, back in the day. I dont recall anyone at that time claiming he was "raping" his models. The industry was so sexually charged when I worked in and around the fashion world (90s) that everyone was fucking someone on a daily basis. It would be more shocking to discover that Bruce hadn't sampled the goods.

Not really surprising to see reactionary defenses for sex abuse, happens all the time, but pretending that fascism is just an empty word is one reason fascism has taken hold lately. Power is intoxicating.

It isn’t easy (unless it’s underage), which is one reason it’s a complex problem.

The raids are based on  civil reports, so, most likely, these two spas and all the other spas visited by police and raided were because some “unanonymous” tip/report came from an unsatisfied customer expecting hand jobs or blowies to be free or given for $20.

Not since Ben passed away.
 

Like the police need a chat group to know that these m4m spas peddle flesh 🤣

I agree- Didn't 27 get raided a few years back and even closed for a while but it is still open and thriving now.

As a NYer, this happens from time to time. They need to give "vice" a reason to exist. Obviously, everyone should be careful but I don't think this is heralding the end of such spas.