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"Based on my past several hundred experiences" is not a generalization, it's an observation.

MikeBiDude- How old are you and how many escorts have you hired or friended over the years? I'm 68 and have hired hundreds many of whom I was very good friends with and some I still am. I've had a dozen long-term live-in situations and am currently partners with one and have a half dozen escort friends here and a half dozen in Prague I help with their work and lives. Obviously, since you know so much more about it than me you must be what 100 and hired or managed a couple thousand ? I'm sorry I assumed to have more experience with escort lives than someone of your advanced years and experience. And gay men have a right to discuss potential dangers to them on a gay site. That's not just emotional and financial aspects but also how to avoid scams and fakes and how to conduct themselves safely. Gay men for too long have been victims and need to be free to discuss these concerns among themselves. If an escort is legit they have nothing to fear from these discussions and should encourage them to weed out the trouble-causing ones. Escorts generally go into the business because of a troubled past, especially the GFP's. They rarely have health care coverage much less dental and believe me, rotten teeth are the fastest way to be exiting the business. And hemorrhoids are an occupational hazard that puts one out. Neither do they have social security coverage for disabilities or addictions, much less retirement. I would love to run across an escort contributing well into a 501(k). I never have. Encouraging escorts who think they're movie stars because guys pay them to suck dick to get healthcare, dental, housing, off addictions, and planning for their future after escorting is not easy. Most clients could care less. The guys I deal with and help are all at the peak of the game. The best-looking ones. But even they are difficult to get to think about health and future security. I remember one who was one of the top porn stars in the US and top escorts telling me when he got too old (his teeth were already bad) he would just move to California, marry a single mom in public housing and get on CalFare. That is so sad after all the money he had gone through for so long that he didn't think to use it wisely. I'm proud of my current guy because he's bought a house for him and his 2 kids and is using his earnings to pay it off in full soon. I got him on my dental insurance as a partner as he's 35. Two other friends who visit and work here are very young (23) and very popular but amazingly save at least half what they make and have bank accounts $100K to $200K in under two years. That's great. Money talks. But for all these gems I know there are dozens with many problems and no plans. And there are a number who are just plain bad and evil and are dangerous to gay men. And they certainly hurt the income of the good guys because they make gay men wary of hiring at all. Clients need to know how to screen and avoid fakes and troubled ones. But being attacked for joking there are probably more escorts in mug shots than Rentmen on a gay site is homophobic. That's a truth that's a joke we gays have a right to make. And the interest in all the murders by famous escorts is healthy for gay clients who are too damn naive. If it happens to even the richest by the top ones what about the rest. Escorting, especially online, needs to be a hell of a lot more honest and safer for many reasons., including escorts. But I'll never back off my observation from many many experiences that life after for GFP escorts especially is not usually easy.

If you'd stayed and finished high school you could google better for yourself. Hint: you can start with Sean Cody's Addison in prison for murdering a client, Josh Logan just out on a technicality for murdering a client, Sean Cody's Jarek in prison for blackmailing a client, Sebastian Young awaiting sentencing for attacking police who were investigating another of his wife/child beating incidents, and David Meza just found guilty in San Diego for murdering his rich client thinking he would inherit. These are just the most famous cases of the most high-class escorts that any gay man who reads much has heard of . Sorry if it doesn't fit your assumption that GFP escorts are so virtuous but in a forum like this challenging someone to source every detail and further shouting He's Still Waiting is juvenile behavior that doesn't get anywhere. Gay men have a right to be concerned about escorts who may be violent and discuss it even if some of the gay sites that show all the porn star/escort mug shots may be just prurient (I assume you can look that word up for yourself).

I miss that Swinging Richards in Pompano closed. They did have a way of bringing in extremely prime meat on a regular basis. leBoy from time to time shows signs of attracting good-looking normal guys. No one knows what Johnson's is yet. They seem to want a mix of twinks and muscles but tend more toward the twinks so far. Not sure what their privates policy is yet while leBoy has the guys' rates on the wall. Boardwalk can be feast or famine on any day but it's still my go-to in FLL. A homely feel of sleaze. It used to be packed on weekends with stars and I've met Ryan Rose and Josh Logan in the past few months cruising for dates there. I've also met an incredible blond Argentine and a fantastic Hungarian bodybuilder. But I've also been approached by dozens of sub-par guys. Out of a dozen guys working there on a night I am lucky to see one at least semi-hot one. But at least Boardwalk has a rapid turnover and constantly new guys coming through. I'll be in FLL this week to see the blond Argentine and a friend from Prague so I'm sure I'll be in Boardwalk a couple weekdays at least. I think these type clubs have been hurt mostly by most of the guys working online now instead. FLL is rare in having 3 of them.

If someone hasn't been under a rock the past few years they've read in gay publications of so many of the top guys being charged with murder. Google it yourself. I think there are gay sites that collect it and plenty of gay sites regularly have the stories

No one said arrested for prostitution . No, our dearest and best tend more toward arrests for murder, rape, beating up spouses/children/girlfriends/boyfriends. It does seem to be a more frequent occurrence with the gay-for-pay guys than gay escorts. And maybe gay escorts use their connections better to move up in life. That would make sense. But at least the GFP's rarely do and end up back in poor conditions they came from, just older and less pretty.

It depends on what the information is ! It could be decisive in whether you want to hire even. A few weeks ago in Fort Lauderdale I met an extremely attractive intelligent escort at Boardwalk and exchanged numbers for a date and potentially for him to visit me in DC. He mentioned he had done a little porn. When he called his name popped on the caller id. I googled it and gay porn. Although he had indeed done a little gay porn most was straight. Worse he had just gotten out of prison after 2 years on a technicality from possibily murdering a client. That information was helpful in deciding whether to date or bring to my home. OTOH on the other site there is a fellow who very often pops up in messages with intimate personal details of a guy. Even childhood/high school photos etc. I find that's really interesting since I'm more attracted to someone I know but I can't imagine doing that in-depth sleuthing. I'm on Facebook with many guys I regularly date and it is nice to "know" them that well even if wives/girlfriends etc pop up. But it's details of his life he wants to present to others. Use any information to decide but do not let it slip or you may seem scary to him.

In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen.

I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation.

The Boytoy thread "So Cute Boys in Prague !" is the definitive internet source of reviews, photos, etc of guys in Prague. 1000 posts and very current on a daily basis. Most posts are reviews of guys and photos, gossip, etc. Questions answered quickly. Yes, I contribute there. Escape is closed by police for boy trafficking. No loss unless you're into emaciated twinks. Rarely did anything quality filter through there and prices were ridiculously high. Quality is definitely also lacking at Temple, which is now named Up and Down bars. Prague is strictly a Romeo town and many of the porn actors are on it by names that change too often. The worst news is that most of the quality Prague guys only work in Zurich now where they get twice Prague prices.

For somebody so high-end he has a cheap crummy sofa and the only saving grace of the kitchen cabinets are the Ikea door handles. The bathtub is to die for but it's obviously in a client's hotel room and he did a snap-and-go. Overpriced trash. Nothing wrong with trash but not at quality prices.

Fort Lauderdale ("Where the Boys Are"). Do gays really go any place else in March? Too cold for Provincetown and a week is a long time for Key West. Many of us from DC will be in FLL then.

leBoy (ne Johnnys) has been trying to get away from that somewhat, but yup that's always been their thing ! Rail-thin feminine twinks. They do get occasional normal-looking guys who are younger muscle twinks.

Not 100% positive, only 99.99%. I just assume most comments are put on by the escort himself or his friends and that a good % are little like their photos or complete frauds. I'm gravitating to Massuerfinder because the photos and reviews seem more legit and you're only risking $100 to try and not $300.

So a new star popped up at Secrets last night. Sorry I don't have a hosting site to put his pic here. Stunning. Says his name is Christain from Atlanta. Nursing student. Drove up. Many tattoos, including a kiss tat on butt. Half Australian, half Cuban. They've renamed him "Cody". He'll be back tonight. Power bottom. Face of an angel. Medium tan complexion, dark brown eyes, black hair. Works as a runway model. Stunning amazing looks. Seems too good to be true which is the point. Anyway he's coming for lunch so I'll gleen more. update: He is wonderful sex with a preference for bottoming. Passionate French kisser. Extremely intelligent polite guy.

Yes it's legal. Dicks doesn't have a liquor license so anything goes. (and does)

But I don't think the lapdances on the balcony are nude are they ? They're very tame anyway. That's why I like Dicks in Phoenix. Full nude stripper laying on top of you. Of course even better are the private rooms or curtained areas but in the majority of them (Florida) the strippers can't dance nude.

Surprised there isn't more discussion of the 3 FLL strip clubs. Boardwalk, leBoy and Johnson's. The guys aren't nude while they dance but all Florida bars have private booths for the "lapdances"...ie It's between you, the dancer and Ben Franklin. Many porn stars slide through Broadwalk and the strippers are a combination of muscled South Americans and muscled East Europeans. It's large and usually packed as it has 75 cent drinks Tuesday night and all-you-can-drink for $25 Weds. The outdoor cafe out front has pretty good food. Inside it's pretty tacky and dirty except weirdly for the bathroom which is upscale and has a valet with colonges etc. Boardwalk gets extremely crowded on weekends and porn stars filter through. Private with Ryan Rose? done that. leBoy is the old Johnny's in a new very nice location. Much smaller than Boardwalk. Ditto the penises. Still tends toward young-looking twinks but there are now a few decent guys. The oddest thing about leBoy is the prices are on the wall when you go into the curtained private area. How much for how long broken down into how much goes to the stripper and how much to the club and how much to tax. There is a guy standing outside the curtained area but he bothers no one. Last time I was there he was the nicest one there. Johnson's just opened on Wilton Blvd. recently and is still trying to figure out what it is. The location is prime gayness. The interior done in a nice semi-industrial mode with curtained off privates. The guys vary from very nice to not-hot. The guys aren't giving up the $ they make at Boardwalk to work here. I guess there should also be a thread on the Bourbon St. Pub in Key West. It's good and is built into the Orleans gay hotel where much porn is filmed in the pool. Miami.......not so much. The joke is that Miami is where you stop for gas between Wilton Manors and Duval Street.

Are we sure Portland is nude? I was there a few times and don't remember the nudity. (Perhaps it was unmemorable, as are most of the strippers).

I've been there a few times and even went to Phoenix for it. I 100% swear it is the best male strip club in the US. The strippers range from very nice to extraordinary. A good number who do porn. Every night there will be at least 2 or 3 muscled good looking eager strippers. I would put the quality up top with Campus and Secrets. Strippers gravitate to it or at least visit because they make a lot of money there. It may be because the private vip area is indeed private and dark and high up. The main rule seems to be that you cannot touch your own dick and have to keep your clothes on. But the stripper is nude and lays on top of you on the sofa. There are two sofas and even if the other is occupied, believe they are too busy to notice you. Not much of a cock man here but I've fingered many holes there. I have never been to a strip club with better-looking guys nor such a great vip area. A gorgeous naked muscle guy laying on top of me is just fine. 10/10. America's Best.

My BFF "Ryan" is the hottest guy there by far. $20 will get you a good lap dance or more. Maybe $5 if he's drunk. And he's drunk a lot.

Secrets is Not being torn down (yet). A developer has an option to buy it for a new apt building but they are building another one now close and probably won't start until that one is finished. The new soccer stadium across the street is supposed to open in May. It will interesting interaction. They don't have a parking lot so it will be impossible for cars.

I'm sure it was happening on a Saturday. I can't recall that one exactly. Security does enforce no touching between the knees and waist when a stripper is on set. Off set its between the stripper and you. The one I'm close to lets you finger his butthole offset or will sit in your lap, butt on dick, while you feel inside his briefs for $20 tip or less. $5 would even get special attention.

I've only been to Silverado. A few times. The "lapdance" area is extremely public. It's on a balcony over the bar with a railing. A security guard stays right next to you. No hanky-panky. No way. A guy sitting on your lap is it. It's not enjoyable when you're in bright lights and anyone can watch plus having the guard right there. If Stag has curtained off areas and better-looking guys, go there.

Secrets has changed a lot as to what can go on. When "Ryan" started 18 months ago he broke most of the rules and it stuck. Dancers walk around between sets talking to spenders and accepting tips for being very friendly touch wise. Lapdances, hands down underwear, fingering holes, kissing, back or foot massages in the dark seats, etc are all normal now. The guys make most of their tips offset now and most of their income outside Secrets. For a mere say $20 in tips offset I think you get at least as much as in a normal 2-minute "song" at formal lapdance bars. And at most of those holes and cocks are off limits.