CatDaddy

All of these are good responses and I agree with being uncomfortable with details for all the reasons mentioned. I have always gotten very good recommendations from guys on this message board and more than a few times steered away from a bad experience and a waste of money. So honest feedback is very important and I always welcome that and try to provide it when asked. But... honest feedback is often very different than over-sharing on other things that may happens during a massage. That should be between provider and client.

Hello all
 
Many of you know me here. I have been around a while and have hire my share of masseurs. I have shared some great feedback (which I have been recognized for both publicly and privately).
 
Lately it seems that when I get PM'ed i'm asked very specific and sexually explicit questions.
 
For me I am mostly here for the massage and NOT sex. I'm also a private person who can get uncomfortable at times sharing my personal experiences when I hire someone.
 
I have received several recently that I have responded to in a not so friendly way. I honestly do apologize for that. But understand lately I have been getting an influx of similar requests.
 
I will give any information about the person, massage styles, fees and maybe some sensual aspects. But I won't answer any specific sexual questions. I ask that this please be respected
 
My thoughts are if you are asking such a detailed sexual question then perhaps you should be hiring an escort not a masseur.

https://www.xvideos.com/video56441937/massagem_erotica_nu

No Bueno!!!

I cancelled recent travel plans. My next attempt will likely be in September, a flight out west.

Right now I would only plan local trips with no plans to stay at a hotel or travel by plane. I am hoping my first post lockdown trip will be a trip to Tahiti I have promised myself for years.

1. Don't attempt to "read into" ads unless you are willing to pay a high rate for what you think will be an exceptional experience that ultimately might be disappointing. Some guys knowingly write enticing ads even though they know they are going to fail to deliver. Some of the most expensive and disappointing massages I've had have been by guys with lots of provocative photos and texts who then provided untrained (not therapeutic) massages with nothing erotic beyond having a guy in a tank top touching me.
 
2. Have a specific conversation as to what you are looking for. If you are not comfortable doing that, then at least do your research here and commit to hiring guys who have feedback that indicates you are likely to get what you are looking for. There is still no guarantee as I truly believe (and respect) that just because client A has a certain experience with masseur X that doesn't mean client B will. There still shouldn't be a night-and-day difference in experience (if a guy advertises erotic massage, one should reasonably expect something more than a mediocre rub from a clothed guy), but just because a masseur goes beyond mutual touch and a happy ending with one client doesn't mean he's going to do that with every client. There is still such a thing as chemistry between the masseur and client so that's why I'm accepting of the notion that "your mileage may vary" is reasonable.
 
3. If you really want an escort experience, book an escort from an escort website. If you want to book an erotic massage with the option of negotiating more once you are there, then look for guys who have both masseur and escort ads or, again, have a conversation with the guy before hand about your desires. This can be tricky if you don't have a clear indication that the guy is open to more, though, so I would personally be hesitant to have that conversation with someone I've never met unless I know based on his ads or reputation on this site that he's open to more than massage.

If he allows you to be nude. No drape. And he’s wearing underwear and a tank top... 99% of the time means there will be some sensual elements... usually HE or more. I never say anything. I just let the session flows. I enjoy the unexpected. The anticipation of not knowing that’s coming next.

What I notice first is if the masseur lists "erotic" among his available massage styles.

In or Out, you can get taken advantage of and/or have scary incidents. My rule is... Always check here first, strictly I go to them when at home in NYC and they come to me when I’m in a hotel. The last time I had a masseur come to me, he was high on something, rang the wrong apartment, somehow got in, went to wrong apartment and had an altercation with my neighbor. Never again! However, I do love the luxury of a masseur coming to my hotel room.

https://www.boyfriendtv.com/videos/486978/bear-massage/

This has always been one of my favorites!

I am completely guilty of selection bias. I was not always like that, though. I started off being shy in the beginning, and letting things happen organically, if it did. (Something can be said about feeling desired and the excitement of the unexpected.) When in a spa, I never chose my masseur and got whoever was available. (I learned quickly that most of the time you got the person others did not prefer.) I also chose solo therapists based on looks in their profile, romanticizing in my head what could happen. Many $$ after and thanks to this website, I have learned to properly choose masseurs and be more assertive during the sessions, without being disrespectful. I can say that all massages I have had had some form of extras. There are 'hot' looking masseurs that provide unsatisfactory 'intuitive' massages; and there are regular looking guys that give excellent massages. Every one else falls somewhere in between. So, depending on my mood and horniness, I'd go to the person that fulfills my need. Then you find good looking masseurs that provide excellent massages and extra extra experiences. They are usually more expensive, but they are hot memories you can keep! The search for them and novelty are the reasons I check this forum frequently.

I've gotten gross massages at parlors, and on people's tables, and absolute badass ones on hotel room beds. Ever have someone join ya in on a shower? I once got in and had someone say, "Hey, wait for me!" and got a rubdown in the shower. Reverse is also true. So look for pizza out in open, stanky animals, dog/cat hairs everywhere, condoms in the bathroom trashcan, TV set on, horrible lighting/environment/music, oh my I could go on forever with annoying things I'm sure we have all seen, lol. Though usually the first hints to call it off start coming your way before you even get there... like in text messages when you ask questions and look at reviews on this forum.

It looks like I haven't shared my worst experience here (maybe I have in another thread), so here goes:
 
I was black-and-blue and sore for a few days after a massage. I kept telling this guy (who was super hot, by the way) to back off the pressure because it was too intense for me, but he would immediately return to extremely deep work after a minute or two. I really don't like deep work on anywhere except my back, so I thought that maybe I was just being a little hypersensitive. In retrospect, I should have just left the second time he went too deep which was my warning that he wasn't listening to me. At the end of the massage when I told him I had never encountered so much pain during a massage, he joked that he's known as an "s & m masseur." Well, maybe some people knew that of him but there was no hint of that in his ad. I was aghast after I got home and saw how badly he had bruised me.
 
I, of course, have a lot of stories about hotels in bad areas, smelly apartments, guys who didn't match their pictures, guys who did not deliver what they promised, etc, but the above is definitely the worst massage I had.

OK the worst was also the first. Many years ago in my 20’s just broke up with a boyfriend. I saw one of those ads in the back of the local gay rag, hot buff guy pictured offering massage, got up the courage and made an appointment. When I got there the man who opened the door was of course not the man in the picture, more of a 60ish sort of Captain Kangaroo with a “Dutch Boy” hair doo. The apartment could only be described as, in the Liberace style on a K-Mart budget.
I was too shy and scared to run, so I stayed. He took off his robe to reveal only red satin boxers. There was a massage table so I got undressed and laid face down, under the towel.
I don’t really remember the massage, I think it was OK but I was too scared to move. There was a point where his big Persian cat jumped on the table and walked along my side. He yelled at the cat but cat kept coming back. Can’t tell what was going on in my head just wanted out of there. I did the turn over, more massage, the the attempt of a happy ending, but being in my 20’s it was quick and easy. After I came he knelt down with his head on the massage table and started praying and crying. I got up, got dressed, put the money by his head and ran out of there left him in the praying crying position in his own world. It was probably another 10 years before I went for another massage.

I like Master Chen as well, and that Puerto Rican dude was smokin' hot. Well worth $5.

This is my plan too once we get further into June.

After two months of working from home and not having good seating for 8 hours in front of the computer, my lower back finally told me I needed to roll the dice and get a massage. It felt so good to get those knots worked on. I'm now 10 days after the message and not detecting any COVID-19 symptoms.

Yikes! There are some really bad experiences in this thread! Compared to some of the stories on here my worst experiences pale in comparison. Really the most I can complain about is the one masseur who did this thing on my back with his feet that resulted in me having sore ribs for a week and another masseur who offered to let me watch him jack off for $20 and got massage oil all over my sheets (I guess that's risk of having an outcall at your own house--I now know to ask what they use for the massage).
 
My first thought was I've been lucky but I must say that the board has likely saved me from some bad experiences so thanks guys! There have been plenty of guys that have passed through town that I've been intrigued by but universally bad feedback on here has made me keep well clear of them.

I like Master Chen as well, and that Puerto Rican dude was smokin' hot. Well worth $5.

I like Master Chen as well, and that Puerto Rican dude was smokin' hot. Well worth $5.

I subscribed as well and have enjoyed the videos. Something different!

Former masseur here, found that almost all my clients wanted a HE no matter what. I'd say around 95% were the mutual touch type, and most of them spent time mutually touching my cock. That to me is an interest in either sucking me or getting fucked. I'd say 75% or so of my sessions had oral one way, the other or both. Full on sex was rare, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't happen. Might have happened more, but frequently the guy is so worked up he cums before anything more than a HE can happen.
 
As a client, I do go to one or two guys that don't do anything, and they are just really good massages. I find a lot of the massages I receive that involve sex in any shape or form are just average. They make up for the massage quality with the sex. Sometimes that's what I want, sometimes I just really need a damn good massage though.

Don't kid yourself . . . The owner of a business expects tips just the same. When my hair stylist used to cut my hair as the owner, I gave him a tip for a job well done and since he has sold the business and rents a chair in another shop, I tip him just the same. I don't want a bad haircut and he aims to please me. I dont have that much on top so cannot afford a slip of the clipper. Could you imagine not tipping the guy who trims your pubes? Next time around, you could be missing one of your jewels!!