Drained Empty

Many months ago I forgot to check this board before reaching out to joshsoccer_guy. I texted him and he said he claimed to be a bartender at a hotel. He was really shady so I stopped texting. Hours later he contacted me from another phone pretending to be another provider, Paul. More fake pics were sent. I know it was Josh because he was the ONLY person I contacted. No others. Stay away.

Here's what the scene was during a recent visit. Steamroom standing room only as guys lined up to try and suck this well hung twink (big dick privilege indeed). It was a motley crew including a guy who was the spitting image of David Gest (Liza Minnelli's late ex husband) right down to the unnatural hair color (which stained his towel). A Korean patron complained so they cleared out the steamroom only to have it fill up again right after. There was no discretion as guys were visibly crowding inside and trying to get with each other. I don't know what the appeal of sucking off a guy that a dozen guys did previously. A few guys couldn't deepthroat so the twink's dick was probably covered in bile, saliva, and God knows what else. Gross.

They have very small tables. I would recommend dining out. The neighborhood is not great -- homeless people often wander in asking for money. I'd grab to-go, drive to a park or the Moscone Center, and enjoy your meal there.

There's a place -- Tu Lan in the Tenderloin -- infamous for it's good, relatively inexpensive Vietnamese dishes. I'm not sure it serves pho but it has really good rice dishes and salads. I think Julia Child loved it. Neighborhood is not safe at night but ok during the day.

Don't let them ruin your experience. Century is actually a decent facility and the food is good. Wii is even better and generally no attitude there. Spa Palace is an option. Perhaps a weekend morning to midday. Just avoid Century if you don't want to deal with primadonnas and nastiness. As for the Grindr shorts, I hadn't seen episode 2 (body shaming) until just now, and the guy in the wheelchair said it best: "I want to do all the things my peers are doing but I have to navigate prejudice so openly. And I just don't think it's fair."

Dude, I'm just sharing my experience. It takes minimal observation skills to see who is walked out on: Asians, older guys, heavyset guys. A few months ago I pointed it out to a very attractive white/latino guy. We actually put a wager on how many times I would clear a room. Suffice to say I won and his eyes were opened. For the record, I absolutely, unequivocally know many of these guys are racist. That's because I had a super hot white friend hit them up on Grindr and ask them. You'd be surprised how honest (and racist) some white guys are when they think they're talking to another white guy. Of course, I'm not everyone's type. And I know some people are just rude. But there are a ton of racists out there. For the record, I didn't start this thread nor bring up race first. And another poster started the Wilshire spa thread and said the same thing. So no, it's not just in my head. And yes, it is a recurring theme. Maybe you'll get some perspective if you watch the first Kindr Grindr episode where minorities talk about how they face micro and macro aggressions in every day situations. Yes, even going to a spa meant for minorities.

(White) patrons have a problem because of my race (Asian). The other guy (who was black) actually felt bad for me and was perplexed by the white guy's behavior. He was like "he probably thinks you work here." My response was "does it LOOK like I work here?" and the black guy said no. We joked maybe I should get some hideous tattoos or surround myself with white friends next time. All joking aside, getting walked out on happens to me every visit so I'm used to it. The obvious intimidation still disturbs me. And Century isn't even half as bad as Wilshire, where guys literally won't enter a room you're in and make it known (they will stand outside, peek in, and only enter when you leave -- often with an eye-roll or loud, frustrating sigh). And to answer your question, if a place is packed, I am the one who ends up leaving because I'm tired of getting walked out on. Even if a guy is cool with me, if he sees other guys walking out, he might start copying their behavior. One time I just retreated to the bathroom because guys who walked out on me were literally in every room and I didn't want to "ruin their fun" with my presence. Anyway, to get this back on track, Wi is just a little bit further down Wilshire Blvd but in traffic it can end up 20-25 min away. Grand is an option but I hate they have security tags in their towels and the place is pretty dingy. And you have read my feelings on Wilshire.

Apparently this is a very different JoeBrazilian (one who actually looks Brazilian lol). https://rent.men/JOEBRAZILIAN I'm thinking he's a porn star? And Intel?

He lives (or practices) near me so he shows up often on my Grindr. I'm pretty sure his photo is stolen from Sean Cody or a similar-type site. I urge caution.

I think I interacted with this guy. I believe he reached out to me. I can't remember the circumstances, but I do believe some "hot" masseurs/escorts on Grindr intentionally target Asian guys because they think we're desperate. He was very boastful of his skills. I recall asking him if he was certified (my preference as I've been injured by a non-certified guy before) and he got extremely defensive, saying that he had his own special technique. He then said he had tons of clients and didn't need more, to which I asked why he reached out to me. Suffice to say we didn't meet.

The other day I walked into the clay room, not knowing two guys were playing in the blind corner. I sat down and closed my eyes because 1) I wanted to relax and 2) I give guys a pretty wide berth and don't watch. However they interpreted my actions, they were not having me in there. They froze like statues while staring at me. So I got up, apologized (I know you hate that boiledeggz) and left. Probably an hour later I returned, not knowing they were in the blind corner again. One of the guys -- a white guy from the previous incident -- got up and left. The other guy said he was fine with me being there. So here's the best part. Maybe about 30 min later, I was getting ready to leave. I wanted to dry off after my final shower. Went to the clay room, which was pretty full. Everyone was fine with me being there. The aforementioned white guy comes in and sits across the room from me. A few minutes later, he gets up, sits right next to me and proceeds to glare at me. He's sitting next to me, so his head is intentionally turned left while he's giving me the nastiest, meanest look. I continue to stare forward/close me eyes but can feel his eyes on me. Eventually he gets up and leaves but it was meant as an intimidation tactic. Who the hell does that?

These bullies are often self aggrandizing types that always need to get the last word in. Their tactic is to send you a string of nasty PMs, then declare they are ignoring you as one final jab (and self aggrandizing move). Unfortunately, there isn't a big valley between criticism and harrassment, only a thin line.

Both my friend and I have seen cockroaches running across the floor at Wilshire during recent visits. Still lots of racist attitudes there as well.

I'm in PS this weekend staying at one of the clothing optional resorts. Would love recommendations on fun things to do and places to eat. I already stopped by Canyon Club (had a few hours to kill before checking into my different resort) and it was pretty dead. I'm also pretty awful at initiating stuff lol. Maybe I'll see some of you around!

Lotus of Siam and Arawan are two wonderful Thai restaurants. Arawan is near the gay bath houses. It's also just a block from Imperial Spa which is an insanely cruisy Korean Spa.

Perhaps try framing it like nycnsa did and stating what you ARE looking for instead of putting down an entire race. If you want a masseur that you know you're attracted to why don't you use MF or RM and that way you can pick and choose. Even if you go to a facility with non-Asian therapists, unless you book an appointment specifically you may (gasp!) end up with one due to scheduling conflicts (he's with another client, it's his day off), etc. God forbid we wouldn't want you to be subjected to being near an Asian if you don't like them

You beat me to this. 20 minutes of rushed Chipotle "dining" and you're going to incur some other penalties during "private time." Especially if one orders the sofritas.

Have you actually had the massage services there? I've had a half dozen and they're okay. Keep in mind that the massage area may be shared with two other clients and then there's the ambient noise from the shower area (depending on day and time can be filled with loud chatty queens). So if privacy and serenity are your thing, I would avoid Century. Some guys have said they've gotten extras, but I really doubt it. All the masseurs are Asian btw, and most of them middle age. As for the steamroom, it's a sex den. If you're Asian (and not a "unicorn"), you can expect to have the majority white clientele walk out on you. Some will give you nasty looks on the way out. The worst is when an actual straight, often older, Korean wants to use the steam room (God forbid) and the white/Latin/black guys make their intolerance known. It's not uncommon to see older Korean man literally get scowled at and stared down until he leaves. Ditto with the jacuzzi. The moment an Asian guy goes in everyone gets up and leaves as if he has leprosy. Which I guess is a good thing if you want the open space. And it just tells you what type of race/power dynamics take place at a KOREAN spa.

I don't think that is Korean.

If someone explicitly states what they're "not into" (again, verbatim from his profile), to me that means "turn-off." It seems like Hey_Jay is one of the Asian "unicorns" (watch BuzzFeed's video on Asian men sexiness) or "exceptions" (watch Matt Dempsey's dinner with four men of color). Good for him. He seems to have a lot of confidence stemming from the fact he is "uber cute." Given that I've actually seen Ben give me a disdainful look before (outside of a massage setting) and his Grindr profile, it's best if I leave the "uber cute" clients to hire him.

What did you think of AJ? He gave me a very perfunctory massage...probably the weakest of all the BW massages I've received.

Just read Ben's Grindr profile. He states he is uncut and prefers the same. And verbatim: "Not really into shaved or trimmed bodies and body parts." Granted, this is his Grindr profile and not his massage profile, but I don't want him disgusted by my (naturally) smooth and (comestically) trimmed parts. Simply put, I am not his type (as I suspect was the case with kenomora) and would not want him to massage someone not his type. Knowing you are digusting to someone is not a good nor relaxing feeling. He's super attractive and I'm sure he has no problem finding mates and clients that he prefers. What a privilege.

Well that makes sense. Thanks.

Does anywhere know where Dallas was based prior to Palm Springs? I only ask because there is a guy who works in a Santa Monica luxury hotel who could be his twin and was very flirty with me and my male buddy.

Had an strictly therapeutic very chatty massage with him. Not sure I'd repeat.