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Do you remember the name of the Asian mountain of muscle?

Sure, this guy is Spanish. Years ago I had a boyfriend, born, raised in an upper-middle class family, and educated in a Central American country, who had immigrated to the US. Despite his physically looking Central American, my BF told everyone he was Spanish or, more precisely, Catalonian, because he could trace his ancestry back to there. Like I can claim to be French because I supposedly have an ancestor that was an invader in the Norman Conquest.

Good lord. If photo #1 is the Grand Canyon, photo #8 is the Mariana Trench.

There's a lot of photoshopping going on in those profile pics.

FWIW, another name change on RM. Too bad about the above middling commentary on his massage skills. https://rentmasseur.com/Octa

I second (and third) these comments regarding Alex. Otherwise, SD is a vast wasteland.

Thank you for and @tchm for your posts. I've viewed his profile when he was in NYC as Fit_Daniel and thought he was lovely but never hired him because of previous underwhelming posts about him. I guess he's one of those people who doesn't change and gets by on his looks.

The tat is there 13% of the time. I good feed on those nipples and pouty lips for days.

Thank you, azdr0710. Apologies for hijacking the thread.

The massage shops come and go. Plus Seoul is your typical sprawling Asian megapolis, and getting from one side of the Han River to the other can be an ordeal. Before I go I do some online research using these two websites below. There are reviews for some of the shops, which I found very helpful. Then using the links I go the shop's webpage. Sometimes the pictures look obviously fake. Last time there I went to Muscle Land and can vouch that three masseurs that I saw mingling there before my session all matched their pictures. https://www.travelgay.com/asia/ https://www.utopia-asia.com

I used to go to Asia frequently for business, and hope to start going again in late 2021 after the vaccine. Korea is my favorite for hot guys. For some reason, the offerings in Japan tend to be smaller, even tiny, and younger looking - the pre-pubescent look in the online offerings kind of gives me the creeps. I did meet with a hot Japanese guy in a massage set-up offering the muscle-types. He was hot but definitely straight and smelled of cigarettes. Seoul has plenty of muscle offerings. My first hire in one of the massage places was a tall, bodybuilder that I mentioned in my posting in this thread. He was impeccably clean, definitely gay, a very good actor, or into full customer service. Afterwards he fell asleep in my arms like big, muscular baby. On my last trip to Seoul, I went to another place, and had another muscular, more aesthetic bodybuilder type, model handsome but probably straight (or possibly not into older white guys). It was a very pleasing experience that I would gladly repeat (especially after the ongoing 9 months of celibacy) but it didn't have the passion of my first experience. I'd guess roughly half the guys are straight and half are gay. I went to a massage place in Hong Kong, and had a handsome, muscular Asian masseur. He didn't say much at first so I thought his English might be poor. Midway through the massage I said something to which he responded in perfect English. It turned out that he was American and grew up two towns away from where I lived. He was definitely gay.

https://www.thebestflex.com/profile/Caleb Great reviews on thebestflex. I had a couple of meet-ups with Caleb a few years ago. Beautiful body, mostly muscle worship, with limits. A sweetheart of guy but will oblige with a different persona if you ask. There are videos of him on pornhub and that ilk if you search "Caleb" or "Scrappy". PM me for details.

Ditto. And thanks for reminding me of a very pleasant time in London.

Providing a link helps. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/33820/

Maybe buyer beware? Or maybe not? Google the photographer "Jose Aguilar" to pull up his Instagram account. The B&W photo of the masseur is there (and fairly recently posted if they are tiled chronologically) and shows a heavily tatted model on should and one pec. The masseur's other pictures in his ad show no tats. Dig a little deeper and you can find the model's name and his Instagram account, where he says that he is from Hawaii and now in LA. His Instagram account doesn't show tats. He's modeled and is a go-go boy in Weho. Been featured in several online articles, including DNA. Maybe COVID has dried up his other sources of income and now he's doing massage.

Steve Walsh, lead singer of Kansas, ca. 1980

I know a couple of us on here on bombarding the rest of you with SCIENCE and REASON!... somehow conversations about molecular biology rarely helped me get a hot guy into bed back in the 1990s. Published today in the New England Journal of Medicine, Ibarrondo et al. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2025179?query=featured_home "Our findings raise concern that humoral immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may not be long lasting in persons with mild illness, who compose the majority of persons with Covid-19. It is difficult to extrapolate beyond our observation period of approximately 90 days because it is likely that the decay will decelerate.3 Still, the results call for caution regarding antibody-based “immunity passports,” herd immunity, and perhaps vaccine durability, especially in light of short-lived immunity against common human coronaviruses. Further studies will be needed to define a quantitative protection threshold and rate of decline of antiviral antibodies beyond 90 days." This does not bode well for protective/prophylactic immunity, at least from the antibody ("humoral") response that may result from vaccines or previous infections. A "memory response" may reduce the severity of disease but not prevent infection and onset of symptoms. Longevity of T-cell responses probably won't be any better, IMO.

Ugh. And here we go again. @big dale, @kenomora, @MisterMike, others and I should just start linking to a factsheet. I really like Big Dale's response in this thread. I don't have much to add editorially but a lot to add science-wise. Just because you've recovered from Covid, don't assume you have long-term immunity. We don't know enough yet. Antibody responses wane over time and the neutralizing antibody response in a person may disappear. Not everybody develops a neutralizing antibody response. We don't know enough yet about T-cell responses because they are harder to assess. That individuals still get recurrent colds caused by related-coronaviruses* probably means that immunity is not perpetual (unlike for example, measles or smallpox). Maybe a large percentage of us carry pre-existing T-cell responses against SARS-CoV-2 from cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses but that may only ameliorate the severity rather than prevent infections. You may be asymptomatic or feel just a little "not-normal" but you're still spewing virus. *Have you ever had one of those colds that felt like you just couldn't shake it? Regular cold symptoms for a week or so and then residual congestion, dizziness, lethargy, and cloudy-headedness that went on for a month or more? You went into work because you had to but just felt like crap and getting through the workday took every ounce of energy out of you? That was probably a coronavirus. The vaccine data are being overly-hyped by the lay press, not to mention some of the medical journals and the orange-potato in the White House. Today's CanSino vaccine data look bad. The AstraZeneca/Oxford are only just a little better. Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna are both unproven modalities, and Moderna may have some associated adverse events that may be serious in an older population (SAEs in the technical parlance). We don't know how long immunity will last. Early data are that people >55 years in age mounted lowered immune responses, as should be expected. Chances are good that the first vaccines are going to be partially protective, rushed through approval for Trump's election campaign, and, I'd bet, elicit some life-threatening SAEs in older and/or co-morbid (immune compromised - HIV, autoimmune disease -, hypertensive etc.) populations. Then there are manufacturing and supply chain issues. So don't expect a magic bullet in January 2021 and unless you're a frontline healthcare worker in a major population center, don't expect anything. Therapeutic/prophylactic antibodies are super-expensive to make and will probably be reserved for acute interventions. And most companies are pursuing a strategy that might ameliorate symptoms but could evolutionarily select for escaper mutants that could be worse (just like the early monovalent anti-HIV drugs selected for resistant viruses - and why PREP as a get-out-of-jail-free card for promiscuous unprotected anal sex still scares me just a little bit). As a species this virus and us are just getting started at ~6 months into the pandemic. It is rapidly evolving and adapting... hello D614G. The US has really blown it. Do your part. If you do decide to take a risk behavior like a massage or more, be prepared for the consequences and then stf away from other people for 2 weeks. Anything else is fucking magical thinking, ignorance or utter selfishness.

I read through this thread and feel like screaming. There is so much misinformation and misunderstanding in some of the postings. Listen to @big dale and @kenomora. I could write a lengthy post (and have in another thread similar to this one) but they have already said what needs to be said in this one. I completely empathize with wanting the release (no pun intended) of a good massage, whatever "good" means for someone. Just know that if you get one, there is no way to drive risk of transmission to zero. So then, what is your acceptable risk for contracting a potentially life-threatening, long-term debilitating disease? At this point and probably not until late 2021, if then, SARS-CoV-2 isn't some disease that can be prevented or cured with a shot or controlled with antivirals, like today's STDs. So, if you are willing to bear a risk and do get a massage, wear the damned mask every time you step foot outside your home (you should be doing this anyway), don't eat or drink around others, inside or outside, and stf away from anyone over 60 for at least two weeks afterward. Period. Argh.

Reading through the old threads, I concur with the comments about Grade C massage, and a bit aloof. At least my experience ~4 years ago.

I did occasionally 20-25 years ago. I would hook up with a guy, sometimes in a 3-way situation. We liked martinis, 420 and poppers. We would go at like rabbits. Happy times. Now it's sans the poppers, and just me and my hand. Then Netflix. Oh, who I am kidding? It's usually straight to Netflix.

I'm reviving this thread to ask a question about poppers training videos. Decades ago I got introduced to poppers by a boyfriend with incredible oral talents. He stuck the bottle under my nose, told me to inhale, lay back and get blown and edged. He loved giving head this way and I loved receiving it. After that I would use them occasionally for almost 15 years. I stopped as they seemed to lose their power and instead give me headaches and caused me to come too quickly and only half-erect. Now I can get turned on by watching a guy get poppered up and stroking. For example (best with the audio turned off): https://www.xvideos.com/video8779029/mike_basement_jack But I don't get the appeal of all poppers training videos that come up. I'm just wondering if anyone cares to share an opinion or experience. If I followed the instructions for all the frequency and holding of the hits, I'd end up with raging headache and a floppy-dick, unsatisfying orgasm. No judgement at all. If anything, some envy for somebody who could do that much poppers and get pleasure out of it.

For sure. I don't know why it's so hard for the US to learn from how the Koreans have tamped down infections. Testing, contact tracing, masks. We're not even making a half-assed attempt to do it. It's like our leaders have thrown up their hands and said "Let's move on. Nothing to see here."

These comments reminded me of the last time that I got massage, in Seoul in January when COVID-19 was just starting to spread and I was foolishly naive about how serious it was. People in Seoul were just starting to wear masks. The ridiculously hot young Korean muscle boy had just finished the massage by giving me an incredible BJ when he started sniffling uncontrollably. My post-orgasm high was immediately dampened by realizing how stupid I may have been. Lordy, I miss those times. And to keep on thread, Takashi may be choosing to stay in Japan for a while. I know a few Japanese citizens who are staying there until the US gets things under control.

I don't remember. It's probably correct because he made no attempt at an upsell. And I would remember if he had tried. And maybe taken him up on it.