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The massage shops come and go. Plus Seoul is your typical sprawling Asian megapolis, and getting from one side of the Han River to the other can be an ordeal. Before I go I do some online research using these two websites below. There are reviews for some of the shops, which I found very helpful. Then using the links I go the shop's webpage. Sometimes the pictures look obviously fake. Last time there I went to Muscle Land and can vouch that three masseurs that I saw mingling there before my session all matched their pictures. https://www.travelgay.com/asia/ https://www.utopia-asia.com

I used to go to Asia frequently for business, and hope to start going again in late 2021 after the vaccine. Korea is my favorite for hot guys. For some reason, the offerings in Japan tend to be smaller, even tiny, and younger looking - the pre-pubescent look in the online offerings kind of gives me the creeps. I did meet with a hot Japanese guy in a massage set-up offering the muscle-types. He was hot but definitely straight and smelled of cigarettes. Seoul has plenty of muscle offerings. My first hire in one of the massage places was a tall, bodybuilder that I mentioned in my posting in this thread. He was impeccably clean, definitely gay, a very good actor, or into full customer service. Afterwards he fell asleep in my arms like big, muscular baby. On my last trip to Seoul, I went to another place, and had another muscular, more aesthetic bodybuilder type, model handsome but probably straight (or possibly not into older white guys). It was a very pleasing experience that I would gladly repeat (especially after the ongoing 9 months of celibacy) but it didn't have the passion of my first experience. I'd guess roughly half the guys are straight and half are gay. I went to a massage place in Hong Kong, and had a handsome, muscular Asian masseur. He didn't say much at first so I thought his English might be poor. Midway through the massage I said something to which he responded in perfect English. It turned out that he was American and grew up two towns away from where I lived. He was definitely gay.

https://www.thebestflex.com/profile/Caleb Great reviews on thebestflex. I had a couple of meet-ups with Caleb a few years ago. Beautiful body, mostly muscle worship, with limits. A sweetheart of guy but will oblige with a different persona if you ask. There are videos of him on pornhub and that ilk if you search "Caleb" or "Scrappy". PM me for details.

Ditto. And thanks for reminding me of a very pleasant time in London.

Providing a link helps. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/33820/

Maybe buyer beware? Or maybe not? Google the photographer "Jose Aguilar" to pull up his Instagram account. The B&W photo of the masseur is there (and fairly recently posted if they are tiled chronologically) and shows a heavily tatted model on should and one pec. The masseur's other pictures in his ad show no tats. Dig a little deeper and you can find the model's name and his Instagram account, where he says that he is from Hawaii and now in LA. His Instagram account doesn't show tats. He's modeled and is a go-go boy in Weho. Been featured in several online articles, including DNA. Maybe COVID has dried up his other sources of income and now he's doing massage.

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I know a couple of us on here on bombarding the rest of you with SCIENCE and REASON!... somehow conversations about molecular biology rarely helped me get a hot guy into bed back in the 1990s. Published today in the New England Journal of Medicine, Ibarrondo et al. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2025179?query=featured_home "Our findings raise concern that humoral immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may not be long lasting in persons with mild illness, who compose the majority of persons with Covid-19. It is difficult to extrapolate beyond our observation period of approximately 90 days because it is likely that the decay will decelerate.3 Still, the results call for caution regarding antibody-based “immunity passports,” herd immunity, and perhaps vaccine durability, especially in light of short-lived immunity against common human coronaviruses. Further studies will be needed to define a quantitative protection threshold and rate of decline of antiviral antibodies beyond 90 days." This does not bode well for protective/prophylactic immunity, at least from the antibody ("humoral") response that may result from vaccines or previous infections. A "memory response" may reduce the severity of disease but not prevent infection and onset of symptoms. Longevity of T-cell responses probably won't be any better, IMO.

Ugh. And here we go again. @big dale, @kenomora, @MisterMike, others and I should just start linking to a factsheet. I really like Big Dale's response in this thread. I don't have much to add editorially but a lot to add science-wise. Just because you've recovered from Covid, don't assume you have long-term immunity. We don't know enough yet. Antibody responses wane over time and the neutralizing antibody response in a person may disappear. Not everybody develops a neutralizing antibody response. We don't know enough yet about T-cell responses because they are harder to assess. That individuals still get recurrent colds caused by related-coronaviruses* probably means that immunity is not perpetual (unlike for example, measles or smallpox). Maybe a large percentage of us carry pre-existing T-cell responses against SARS-CoV-2 from cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses but that may only ameliorate the severity rather than prevent infections. You may be asymptomatic or feel just a little "not-normal" but you're still spewing virus. *Have you ever had one of those colds that felt like you just couldn't shake it? Regular cold symptoms for a week or so and then residual congestion, dizziness, lethargy, and cloudy-headedness that went on for a month or more? You went into work because you had to but just felt like crap and getting through the workday took every ounce of energy out of you? That was probably a coronavirus. The vaccine data are being overly-hyped by the lay press, not to mention some of the medical journals and the orange-potato in the White House. Today's CanSino vaccine data look bad. The AstraZeneca/Oxford are only just a little better. Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna are both unproven modalities, and Moderna may have some associated adverse events that may be serious in an older population (SAEs in the technical parlance). We don't know how long immunity will last. Early data are that people >55 years in age mounted lowered immune responses, as should be expected. Chances are good that the first vaccines are going to be partially protective, rushed through approval for Trump's election campaign, and, I'd bet, elicit some life-threatening SAEs in older and/or co-morbid (immune compromised - HIV, autoimmune disease -, hypertensive etc.) populations. Then there are manufacturing and supply chain issues. So don't expect a magic bullet in January 2021 and unless you're a frontline healthcare worker in a major population center, don't expect anything. Therapeutic/prophylactic antibodies are super-expensive to make and will probably be reserved for acute interventions. And most companies are pursuing a strategy that might ameliorate symptoms but could evolutionarily select for escaper mutants that could be worse (just like the early monovalent anti-HIV drugs selected for resistant viruses - and why PREP as a get-out-of-jail-free card for promiscuous unprotected anal sex still scares me just a little bit). As a species this virus and us are just getting started at ~6 months into the pandemic. It is rapidly evolving and adapting... hello D614G. The US has really blown it. Do your part. If you do decide to take a risk behavior like a massage or more, be prepared for the consequences and then stf away from other people for 2 weeks. Anything else is fucking magical thinking, ignorance or utter selfishness.

I read through this thread and feel like screaming. There is so much misinformation and misunderstanding in some of the postings. Listen to @big dale and @kenomora. I could write a lengthy post (and have in another thread similar to this one) but they have already said what needs to be said in this one. I completely empathize with wanting the release (no pun intended) of a good massage, whatever "good" means for someone. Just know that if you get one, there is no way to drive risk of transmission to zero. So then, what is your acceptable risk for contracting a potentially life-threatening, long-term debilitating disease? At this point and probably not until late 2021, if then, SARS-CoV-2 isn't some disease that can be prevented or cured with a shot or controlled with antivirals, like today's STDs. So, if you are willing to bear a risk and do get a massage, wear the damned mask every time you step foot outside your home (you should be doing this anyway), don't eat or drink around others, inside or outside, and stf away from anyone over 60 for at least two weeks afterward. Period. Argh.

Reading through the old threads, I concur with the comments about Grade C massage, and a bit aloof. At least my experience ~4 years ago.

I did occasionally 20-25 years ago. I would hook up with a guy, sometimes in a 3-way situation. We liked martinis, 420 and poppers. We would go at like rabbits. Happy times. Now it's sans the poppers, and just me and my hand. Then Netflix. Oh, who I am kidding? It's usually straight to Netflix.

I'm reviving this thread to ask a question about poppers training videos. Decades ago I got introduced to poppers by a boyfriend with incredible oral talents. He stuck the bottle under my nose, told me to inhale, lay back and get blown and edged. He loved giving head this way and I loved receiving it. After that I would use them occasionally for almost 15 years. I stopped as they seemed to lose their power and instead give me headaches and caused me to come too quickly and only half-erect. Now I can get turned on by watching a guy get poppered up and stroking. For example (best with the audio turned off): https://www.xvideos.com/video8779029/mike_basement_jack But I don't get the appeal of all poppers training videos that come up. I'm just wondering if anyone cares to share an opinion or experience. If I followed the instructions for all the frequency and holding of the hits, I'd end up with raging headache and a floppy-dick, unsatisfying orgasm. No judgement at all. If anything, some envy for somebody who could do that much poppers and get pleasure out of it.

For sure. I don't know why it's so hard for the US to learn from how the Koreans have tamped down infections. Testing, contact tracing, masks. We're not even making a half-assed attempt to do it. It's like our leaders have thrown up their hands and said "Let's move on. Nothing to see here."

These comments reminded me of the last time that I got massage, in Seoul in January when COVID-19 was just starting to spread and I was foolishly naive about how serious it was. People in Seoul were just starting to wear masks. The ridiculously hot young Korean muscle boy had just finished the massage by giving me an incredible BJ when he started sniffling uncontrollably. My post-orgasm high was immediately dampened by realizing how stupid I may have been. Lordy, I miss those times. And to keep on thread, Takashi may be choosing to stay in Japan for a while. I know a few Japanese citizens who are staying there until the US gets things under control.

I don't remember. It's probably correct because he made no attempt at an upsell. And I would remember if he had tried. And maybe taken him up on it.

So much truth in what others have said here. We are still in the first wave of infections in the US; the geography just changed, and maybe the demographics as more Millennials and Gen Zs get infected. Younger people appear to have a lower hospitalization rate, maybe as low as 4% while for older people >65 years, it may be 20%. Proportionally, people of color appear to be getting hit harder than Caucasians but that may be amplified by socioeconomic and co-morbidity factors. But, all in all, the virus doesn't care who you are, and whether it makes you symptomatic or not - for its success strategy, it's better having people up and about and spreading the infections person-to-person, which makes Millennials and GenZs (our favorite phenotype of masseur) prime vectors for transmission. We are learning a lot about the virus incredibly fast. But with speed comes a lot of preliminary conclusions that turn out to be wrong - a lot of headlines are coming from scientific preprints that have not completed the review process. The popular press takes the preliminary conclusions, amplifies them, and maybe politicizes them. Then when something turns out to be false, there usually isn't the same amplification of the correction. Or, if it fits a political agenda, it's over-amplified to discredit science in general. I think we've still got a potential for a huge wildfire of infections, with too many hotspots. and a high pressure system building (red states, too fast relaxing of lockdowns back to normality, and general non-compliance with whatever the locals rules are), and a high wind warning (resumption of travel, lack of social distancing). Our air tankers aren't ready (no vaccine, no good treatments yet), our firefighters aren't on the ground (no contact tracing), and our backfires and fire lines are weak (non-compliance). (As a Californian, I love my wildfire analogies). A lot of people ignore risks and fewer understand statistics. I have a sinking feeling that late September and October are going to be very ugly. So for now and the foreseeable future until this first wave subsides, I'm jerking off, best I can while my dog is scratching at the bedroom door. If this goes on for many more months, my thirst for human physical contact and my little head may take control, and I may get a massage. But it would be with a masseur that I trust; in SF, I'm lucky to know educated masseurs with some experiences in real health education, including an ICU nurse. And if I do get a massage, it will be much more subdued in the sensual nature than I usually am looking for. And then I will be extra careful about my exposure to others for at least one week, so that my risk-choice is solely on me and not foisted upon unsuspecting others.

Yes, that was my experience. He gave me a solid, professional massage with sufficient sensual elements to get me aroused. And then he said "thank you". I asked about a HE and he said no, he doesn't do that. Then I kind of pleaded that I needed to get off, and could he stand there, let me touch his chest, and self-administer a HE. He agreed. Also I agree - he shouldn't be advertising on rentmen, even with what he writes in his ad. Rentmassuer - OK. Rentmen - it seems implicitly misleading. He's Polish and gay in Lisbon. He complained that all the attractive Portuguese guys were straight. So, if you're young and hot (I'm 20 years past that), maybe you would get a little more interactivity with him. He was a bit taciturn with me; his cat took a real shining to me.

Quest Diagnostics does serological testing (antibody) without a prescription if you're willing to fork out $129. Go online to their site and make a reservation. A lot of the serological tests that are out there have a high false-positive and high false-negative rate (any test with an error rate > 1% is not worth taking). Quest is using two of the better ones. There are some places giving free PCR tests but those are useful for people who think that they might have an active infection. If you think you were infected and have recovered, do the serological test.

Geez. Does he get woozy from loss of blood flow to the brain when that thing is erect?

No experience (I'm taking a COVID-19 break) but here are links... Vanilla: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/39942/ Sensual: https://rentmasseur.com/EricTantric

Here is a link to a thread about him prior to his name change. I haven't met with him yet. But he's on my list for SD. Per the previous thread, my online sleuthing back then led to his real identity, which checks out versus his profile. He has since covered up that online trail. https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/411-on-hotcollegehunk.151395/#post-1774982

I took one for the team. Pros and cons in my session with rukennyxxx. Nice guy. The pictures are him, though he didn't have the 8-pack.

It appears that his ad on mintboys is already gone?

Bumping to see if anybody has any updates on TK_Zilla. He's very pretty.