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TruHart1

hmm … a dilemma … then it gets soft

Diego Klattenhoff

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Seriously Steven, don't consider Sally's hair cut, it's really not an option any more

 

happy birthday you big liberal. the pool sounds like a good idea.

One of our more knowledgable posters Truereview moved to Punta del Este Uruguay last year and he is opening a bar there on the beach.

Is it a strip bar - El Stock?

How did the Village People ever meet? They all lived such very different lives.

It strikes me that you’re the one keeping the @BOZO T CLOWN spirit alive, you mention him in SO many posts. Clearly you’re not completely over his influence.

PTBtCSD haha … I get it

I’ll be in Punta del Diablo during the summer.

Do you surf? I see it's right by the border, is it easy to cross over to Brazil?

Good point!

 

Very stable compared to its neighboring giants with their ups and downs.

Are you going to be in Montevideo or one of the resort towns?

I don't agree that lots of gay men have kids. It's certainly more common than it once was but I'm willing to bet that more don't than do have children. It's a common belief that gay men have problems with aging, but maybe it isn't true. It could just be another negative stereotype that gay men voluntarily oppress themselves with.

 

A long time ago, when my sibs and I were looking for a new living arrangement for my father, I visited an assisted living facility with him. The social worker had arranged for us to meet two of the residents. One was a man who was probably gay - he was retired and had spent his career in retail. We had lunch with the two guys and all the way through, I kept thinking "What a way for a gay guy to spend his golden years."

Between having kids and coming out later in life, and/or adoption and/or various other ways, there are lots of gay men with kids - but let's not quibble about that, just different experiences talking I expect. As a gay dad I run into gay dads all the time.

The common belief part was what I was wondering about, do gay men really have more problems with aging than straight men - and why - or is it just a negative stereotype as you mention?

Lots of discussion locally about the need for gay and lesbian retirement homes, the lavender-grey wave. With a much higher percentage of women than men in assisted living and/or care homes, maybe this is more of a gay concern than a lesbian one.

No, straight folks have children and family to keep them from looking in the mirror too much.

lots of gay men have kids. so do you think gay men do have more trouble with aging than straight men? and that it just results from more (stereotyped) family structures

Too much time on their hands.

that applies to both gay and straight

It might be partly that a great swath of gay men were exterminated in the not to distant past by AIDS and related complications. Men getting old now have fewer peers to relate to.

Good point

There have been two interesting trends taking place recently concerning parents and their children. There have been two or three articles here regarding parents who insist on accompanying there adult children to appointments with the kid's college/university professors and parents who insist on accompanying their adult children to job interviews after their kids graduate from college/university. Both college/university professors and private company's HR people and not taking very kindly to this new phenomena. Frankly I think we are raising children who are fragile flowers.

Sounds like an urban myth developing. I've hired (and fired) lots of people, lots and lots in their 20's, never ever heard from a parent, even as a reference.

It seems to me gay men struggle with getting older more than other men. Why is that?

Actually I wouldn't mind them having a rotation of parties in office, the Colorado Party governed from 1865 to 1959.

Its the National Party that is the main opposition, and they are (very) not supportive of LGBT rights.

I invested there after the 2002 financial crisis, believe me, plenty of thoughts about the pros/cons already.

I've always wanted to complete my Spanish and understand Portuguese, one more good reason to move there.

There are Presidential elections next October. The parties running against the Broad Front are not supportive a lot of the socially progressive legislation of the last 10 years. (Not to be a Debbie Downer)

Generally self esteem is more a respect given to a position or title. The esteemed Senator or Judge or Lord or Minister etc. It is not earned-just bestowed to whoever fills that position. At least that is how I see it.

esteemed and self-esteem are different applications of the same concept - one is externally bestowed (to use your word) and one is internally bestowed (the self part of self-esteem)

I would agree that self respect is something that is built -- self esteem NONSENSE. Most people I have encounter believe it is something one is born with. One does not have to do anything to build it or nurture it - one just has it by the fact of ones birth.

I believe you are confusing privilege and self-esteem. A person may be born into privilege, but self-esteem and self-respect are both built and/or undermined through life.

Self esteem is seen my many as a birth right while self respect is something earned. I'm far more impressed with what people earn rather than what they assume to be their birth right.

Self esteem is not the same as privilege. Self esteem is something that is built.

As I've stated many times on this site I taught in a public high school for thirty-six years. Over the years I came to absolutely loathe the term self esteem ie. If I openly admonished a student for not doing his/her homework the mother would often come charging up to school to complain that I had seriously harmed her child's self esteem. Most teachers came to see self esteem as a meaningless trait that everybody possessed simply because of the fact of their birth and was thus worthless. Self respect, on the other hand, is something that people/students EARNED because of their work, demeanor, behavior, etc.

OK guy come and get me.

Hard to choose, I think both are important. The way you are describing them, I'd say one (self-esteem) was an internal assessment, and the other (self-respect) was and external assessment.

I found a wallet in a locker at the swimming pool with $80 in it. I turned it in to the front office and it was returned with a thank you. The next week I had my wallet taken at the swimming pool (from my unlocked locker). No good deed goes unpunished.

What do politics have to do with it?

everything is political - not a bad thing - and a subject for a different thread I expect

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what are the politics of a white guy fucking a beautiful big assed black guy?

I wonder if it could be that they don't like the word 'pro' (as in the oldest profession, not pro meaning professional). That he said 'but thanks for the compliment' implies to me that he was reacting to one particular aspect of your communication not the overall message.

sounded like 'thanks for the compliment' but 'I'm not interested' and the negative spin sounded like direct but unclear disinterest in an older guy