Dmitri

Whether it is a masseur I know or a new masseur I would be interested in, the risk factor is still there. Close contact does not get any closer than massage. (except for escorts). And news reports are saying that antibody tests are kind of sketchy right now, with a substantial number of false positives, so accuracy is not totally reliable. In the beginning, if you read early threads ( Late February-Mid April) 99% of Forum members were anti-massage for fear of contracting Covid 19 and/or spreading it to others, especially the elderly. Now with the evening news showing daily stories of states "opening" , and protests of people wanting to end their lockdown, I sense the same mood starting in the Forum, of clients willing to start venturing out for a massage under certain conditions. In the past week I experienced the horror of Covid 19 up close and personal. My mother of 78 years old had a fever starting last Monday...it lasted until Wednesday when they tested her. She came back positive. She did have an underlying heart condition. She rapidly went downhill, and died yesterday, Saturday, May 2nd at 3pm. None of us (4 kids) or family were allowed in the room. She was surrounded by hospital staff (strangers) dressed in hazmat suits when she died. No one should die like that. I am shell shocked, seeing this up close happening with my own beloved Mother. No one knows how she contracted Covid 19, obviously through casual contact. After this experience, I will not get on a massage table again until there is a vaccine. It is worth the wait, in my opinion, after seeing your own Mother die from Covid 19.

I’m very sorry to hear of your mom’s death. It’s a sobering reminder of why caution is the watchword.

Whether it is a masseur I know or a new masseur I would be interested in, the risk factor is still there. Close contact does not get any closer than massage. (except for escorts). And news reports are saying that antibody tests are kind of sketchy right now, with a substantial number of false positives, so accuracy is not totally reliable. In the beginning, if you read early threads ( Late February-Mid April) 99% of Forum members were anti-massage for fear of contracting Covid 19 and/or spreading it to others, especially the elderly. Now with the evening news showing daily stories of states "opening" , and protests of people wanting to end their lockdown, I sense the same mood starting in the Forum, of clients willing to start venturing out for a massage under certain conditions. In the past week I experienced the horror of Covid 19 up close and personal. My mother of 78 years old had a fever starting last Monday...it lasted until Wednesday when they tested her. She came back positive. She did have an underlying heart condition. She rapidly went downhill, and died yesterday, Saturday, May 2nd at 3pm. None of us (4 kids) or family were allowed in the room. She was surrounded by hospital staff (strangers) dressed in hazmat suits when she died. No one should die like that. I am shell shocked, seeing this up close happening with my own beloved Mother. No one knows how she contracted Covid 19, obviously through casual contact. After this experience, I will not get on a massage table again until there is a vaccine. It is worth the wait, in my opinion, after seeing your own Mother die from Covid 19.

Whether it is a masseur I know or a new masseur I would be interested in, the risk factor is still there. Close contact does not get any closer than massage. (except for escorts). And news reports are saying that antibody tests are kind of sketchy right now, with a substantial number of false positives, so accuracy is not totally reliable. In the beginning, if you read early threads ( Late February-Mid April) 99% of Forum members were anti-massage for fear of contracting Covid 19 and/or spreading it to others, especially the elderly. Now with the evening news showing daily stories of states "opening" , and protests of people wanting to end their lockdown, I sense the same mood starting in the Forum, of clients willing to start venturing out for a massage under certain conditions. In the past week I experienced the horror of Covid 19 up close and personal. My mother of 78 years old had a fever starting last Monday...it lasted until Wednesday when they tested her. She came back positive. She did have an underlying heart condition. She rapidly went downhill, and died yesterday, Saturday, May 2nd at 3pm. None of us (4 kids) or family were allowed in the room. She was surrounded by hospital staff (strangers) dressed in hazmat suits when she died. No one should die like that. I am shell shocked, seeing this up close happening with my own beloved Mother. No one knows how she contracted Covid 19, obviously through casual contact. After this experience, I will not get on a massage table again until there is a vaccine. It is worth the wait, in my opinion, after seeing your own Mother die from Covid 19.

I don't agree this is a good time to give or receive a massage due the current crisis, but I feel that Miles (who is obviously working at this time) did a very respectful and classy presentation in his text copy of the precautions he is taking. For those willing to venture out for a massage, I think he struck just the right tone. I have seen some really lame ad copy from other masseurs who are working at this time when they address their Covid "precautions", but Mile's copy I think was very well done.

Since Covid 19 is so highly contagious in the general population, I think it would be hard for a client who did develop symptoms from Covid 19 to pinpoint if they did indeed acquire it from a massage session. They might have stopped at a gas station before getting the massage and got it off the handle of the gas pump, or there could a million other places they got it before/after the massage session. This also gets tricky, since if an honest masseur as a courtesy contacts the client later to alert the client that they have now developed Covid 19 symptoms, maybe they acquired it from the client during the massage session, and not the other way around. The whole thing gets very hard to pinpoint.

Since Covid 19 is so highly contagious in the general population, I think it would be hard for a client who did develop symptoms from Covid 19 to pinpoint if they did indeed acquire it from a massage session. They might have stopped at a gas station before getting the massage and got it off the handle of the gas pump, or there could a million other places they got it before/after the massage session. This also gets tricky, since if an honest masseur as a courtesy contacts the client later to alert the client that they have now developed Covid 19 symptoms, maybe they acquired it from the client during the massage session, and not the other way around. The whole thing gets very hard to pinpoint.

For sure and frankly it's hard to argue anymore that it isn't based on stigma from the 1980s. Frankly the African Americans community is disproportionately affected by hiv and yet it would be an absolute scandal if they were barred from donating. The fact is all blood is tested rigorously now.

Thanks for the feedback. I do have a life, I am relaxed, I am not fretting, and I am staying home and staying safe. My point in my post was not about Forum Members having different tastes in men, as you alluded to. It was about mocking a masseur's appearance in insulting and degrading ways to get a laugh. I get that these comments are made as a joke. I just think we can get laughs in other ways without insulting each other's appearance, oftentimes in mean spirited ways. That's all I am going to say. I have to go live my life now, watch some hot porn as I "shelter in place," and enjoy my day. Hope you are home and staying safe also. We are all in this crisis together. Peace

Hey guys, I know it is all in good fun, and good for a laugh. But making fun or ridiculing a masseur's appearance, whatever it is .....body type, fat/skinny, unattractive, ugly, etc. is not cool. I know mocking comments are made as a joke....but let's not have our laughs at their expense. I have seen this alot in posts, and find it sad. As gay men most of us were mocked growing up, so we know what it's like. Let's not bring that into the Forum. Aaron is a good looking guy, and looks like a sweet kid. Would hate for him to see this post body shaming him for how skinny he is. It would be great if we could stop trying to get laughs by insulting a masseur's appearance.

I've been lucky enough to already have a taste of that meat! It is quite impressive. And tasty too!

Come on ??‍♂️

There was a running joke online about everything being shutdown, that our true hair colors will show lol!!!

I haven't watched any of this season yet except for the I Love Lucy episode, which I absolutely loved. Sheer perfection from start to finish.
 
Rob

Seems to me this guy is not a native speaker of English...I actually find his ad quite charming.

Cute kid.

I think many of us would like to be as lean as this guy is. I know I would.

He’s hot!!

I get soooooo tired of the “buy him a sandwich” here in The Spa and elsewhere on the forum. If a provider isn’t your type, move on. How is commenting on your personal opinion of a person’s physique helpful in moving a topic forward.
Thanks @Dmitri

Hey guys, I know it is all in good fun, and good for a laugh. But making fun or ridiculing a masseur's appearance, whatever it is .....body type, fat/skinny, unattractive, ugly, etc. is not cool. I know mocking comments are made as a joke....but let's not have our laughs at their expense. I have seen this alot in posts, and find it sad. As gay men most of us were mocked growing up, so we know what it's like. Let's not bring that into the Forum. Aaron is a good looking guy, and looks like a sweet kid. Would hate for him to see this post body shaming him for how skinny he is. It would be great if we could stop trying to get laughs by insulting a masseur's appearance.

I get what you are saying. But we are not sitting in a bar having a few drinks and some laughs. The purpose of this Forum is to exchange info and make recommendations on masseurs and our experiences. In the Terms Of Rules on this site it states "We will operate with the common decency that governs human interactions worldwide" and "We will always strive to treat each person with dignity and respect." That ain't happening here or in other posts. If you type "Owen LA" in the search box and read the 2 threads about him.....those threads were 10X worse than these comments. Someone even says he "looks like a fetus." Check out that thread. When I read this thread after reading Owen LA, it was the last straw and I had to speak up. We can't keep bashing and mocking these guys appearances for a few laughs. It is just plain cruel, and not the purpose of this Forum.

I get what you are saying. But we are not sitting in a bar having a few drinks and some laughs. The purpose of this Forum is to exchange info and make recommendations on masseurs and our experiences. In the Terms Of Rules on this site it states "We will operate with the common decency that governs human interactions worldwide" and "We will always strive to treat each person with dignity and respect." That ain't happening here or in other posts. If you type "Owen LA" in the search box and read the 2 threads about him.....those threads were 10X worse than these comments. Someone even says he "looks like a fetus." Check out that thread. When I read this thread after reading Owen LA, it was the last straw and I had to speak up. We can't keep bashing and mocking these guys appearances for a few laughs. It is just plain cruel, and not the purpose of this Forum.

Thanks for the feedback. I do have a life, I am relaxed, I am not fretting, and I am staying home and staying safe. My point in my post was not about Forum Members having different tastes in men, as you alluded to. It was about mocking a masseur's appearance in insulting and degrading ways to get a laugh. I get that these comments are made as a joke. I just think we can get laughs in other ways without insulting each other's appearance, oftentimes in mean spirited ways. That's all I am going to say. I have to go live my life now, watch some hot porn as I "shelter in place," and enjoy my day. Hope you are home and staying safe also. We are all in this crisis together. Peace

Hey guys, I know it is all in good fun, and good for a laugh. But making fun or ridiculing a masseur's appearance, whatever it is .....body type, fat/skinny, unattractive, ugly, etc. is not cool. I know mocking comments are made as a joke....but let's not have our laughs at their expense. I have seen this alot in posts, and find it sad. As gay men most of us were mocked growing up, so we know what it's like. Let's not bring that into the Forum. Aaron is a good looking guy, and looks like a sweet kid. Would hate for him to see this post body shaming him for how skinny he is. It would be great if we could stop trying to get laughs by insulting a masseur's appearance.

Hey guys, I know it is all in good fun, and good for a laugh. But making fun or ridiculing a masseur's appearance, whatever it is .....body type, fat/skinny, unattractive, ugly, etc. is not cool. I know mocking comments are made as a joke....but let's not have our laughs at their expense. I have seen this alot in posts, and find it sad. As gay men most of us were mocked growing up, so we know what it's like. Let's not bring that into the Forum. Aaron is a good looking guy, and looks like a sweet kid. Would hate for him to see this post body shaming him for how skinny he is. It would be great if we could stop trying to get laughs by insulting a masseur's appearance.