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Would you remember how tall? Just curious. And do you mean "confident" as in cocky or assertive? Could that be the reason you haven't revisited? Thanks!
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Indeed! I was in Louisville on business for a couple of days recently, and having run out of things to do in the evening decided to try against my better judgment and clear warnings here. One of my worst experiences ever. He is completely out of shape with more than a few pounds extra, has serious self & life issues, and is all about extracting money. He offers 3 different types of massage at 3 different rates in the initial texts, not forgetting to encourage tipping on top of those rates (WTF?), which I find tacky. Then you discover that there are 4 different extras that he tries to upsell when he meets you, at which point things become beyond ridiculous. Then the massage starts and he brags and brags, and tries to extract compliments for his skills. I couldn't take it, I cut it short, paid politely and left. One of those times when it felt good to have the exact amount to avoid rounding up. Avoid.
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Drive-by, hit-and-run, city baiting, and other scams
Capitano replied to Capitano's topic in Spas & Masseurs
Dart-throwing continues, Estonia, New Orleans, Santa Fe, Fort Lauderdale, and the ad is in Portuguese LOL: https://rentmasseur.com/branc Maybe some automated bot shit that has infected rentmasseur? -
Yikes, not only are the pix way outdated (a guy unable to embrace his age is a major red flag), he couldn't stop yapping, even though I made it clear I just wanted to relax and just zone out. It was almost compulsive, which made me feel even more uncomfortable. He generally knows what he is doing but the massage was still lame because he kept being distracted, looking for the right bottle, adjusting the temperature, futzing with music, blinds, then telling his next joke or story, etc. Overpriced too, a total waste of time and money, avoid. PS I think he was ready to provide some "sensuality" but I just couldn't wait to get out of there.
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One of my worst experiences ever! A self-centered diva who sees himself as a model and doing massages is clearly beneath him. No wonder he has to keep changing names on rm and mf, where he now goes by "Roland." https://rentmasseur.com/anjrped https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/18208/ "I always strive to give 100% to each and every person" "Zero attitude!!" ROFLMAO.
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It’s a major turnoff for me to even mention a tip, unless it is to say that none is accepted, in which case I am still a little puzzled as to why? Does anybody ever doubt that a masseur will welcome a tip, seriously? When a masseur thinks it’s necessary to bring it up, I suspect a focus on extracting as much as possible while doing the minimum he can get away with. And I usually pass. I like to do business with those who focus on providing enough value to get me to come back. And then I tip generously because it feels good and I want them to feel appreciated and look forward to seeing me again, a win-win.
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Drive-by, hit-and-run, city baiting, and other scams
Capitano replied to Capitano's topic in Spas & Masseurs
Maybe rentmasseur should disallow overlapping presence in multiple cities. This makes no sense: Colorado Springs, Dec 16 - Jan 06 Jacksonville, Dec 16 - Jan 13 Indianapolis, Dec 17 - Jan 15 But then, it's a useful red flag for potential clients, you have to ask yourself what's going on here. -
Drive-by, hit-and-run, city baiting, and other scams
Capitano replied to Capitano's topic in Spas & Masseurs
Darts on the map indeed, but it's still puzzling. Unless rentmasseur is running some promotions with FREE advertising for a month or so. Here is some more nonsense: Poland, Colorado Springs, Indianapolis, and Jacksonville, WTF? https://rentmasseur.com/Jerrydugan -
Drive-by, hit-and-run, city baiting, and other scams
Capitano replied to Capitano's topic in Spas & Masseurs
How the hell do they pick these locations and are there really any takers that go for this: https://rentmasseur.com/VICJAM https://rentmasseur.com/alexisad -
I'd love to hear which masseurs you thought particularly deserved the tip and why, in a word or two?
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Isn't the rule that you don't tip business owners, you tip employees such as restaurant workers, masseurs at spas, and cab drivers? With that in mind, I'll tip rounding up in increments of $20 if I think someone has provided above and beyond the value typically found in the market. I usually go for 90-minute sessions and I think that the guys charging $240 for that are already pushing it (would you tip your lawyer making a quarter million a year?), so something really special has to happen there before I tip. Having said that, my favorites (Brad in NY, Alex in Miami Beach, Nikola in Chicago,...) are well below that and I gladly tip $40-60 to get them there or close. On a side note, given the frequency of "meh" experiences, I like to have the exact change going into a massage with a new guy. And I never feel cheap giving it, because I think I am overpaying them anyway.
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A competent masseur who should run a regular business and charge $80-100 an hour. Then he wouldn't have to use someone else's pix, offer a rushed, mechanical HE in the end, and do body gymnastics throughout to avoid any accidental contact. But hey, charging ~50% more is too enticing to some, even if it means constant travel in search of new and unsuspecting one-time clients. I am so glad this forum exists, sometimes you take one for the team but other times it really saves you money, time, and frustration!
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I revisited Brad recently and I still stand by this earlier statement. Full disclosure: I fucking adore him! Great masseur, sweet guy, insanely cute and hot, smart/literate/communicative, and genuinely caring. Nice & comfortable setting too, even if it's a bit of a hike to Inwood, but express train gets you there pretty fast.
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Masseurs pay extra to have their ad appear near the top of the list that you see when you search for masseurs in a city. It's interesting that this dude apparently pays a lot, his ad appears in the first row, and one of my all time worst, Luka, is right in the second. Truly good masseurs like Brad obviously don't give a fuck, he is way down. If you offer great value, people will find you. If you don't, you have to use marketing gimmicks. It's almost like you should load the entire list and then start from the end.
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I think shorts and t-shirt, I didn't really care because I was face down. Once I turned face up things quickly became better ;-)
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As I said, the massage was very good, he is clearly trained. As far as the rest, politeness and good manners go a long way, although everyone's mileage may vary. I was able to see him naked toward the end and the interaction, while not escorty, was fun and very pleasant. I can attest to the fact that he is gorgeous and well proportioned all over, I don't notice the size unless it's truly extraordinary, on the low or on the high side.
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I was interested until I saw his rate. There is such thing as too low.
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I am reluctant to fully endorse someone after just one visit, but I have to say that my first visit with Yosi was very pleasant and promising. Sweet, hot, friendly, great masseur, no hangups. Nothing overtly escorty and some might prefer more interspersing of sensual elements throughout the massage, so as long as you don't look for that, I don't think you'll be disappointed. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/37074/ Will definitely see him again, and he might become one of my favorites. His apartment is not great but isn't bad either, especially given the convenient location. I didn't have to use his bathroom so I am not sure how that might have changed my assessment.
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Care to share more? PM me if you prefer, thanks!
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Saw him for the second time recently and I am sad to report that there will be no more repeats :-( He is still sweet, hot, massages you in the nude, does not shy away from the glutes, and the massage is actually very good, although it may feel too rough for some as he uses very little lotion (which I like). However, he is just a straight dude that probably doesn't like what he does, and despite some very sensual elements (e.g., him using his chest and body), everything is very choreographed to minimize interaction and him being touched. Followed by "now you can finish yourself" which is probably a result of hanging around other Eastern European straight masseurs for too long (this wasn't an issue the first time I saw him when he was still new in town). That is just a major turnoff for me, plus the language & cultural barrier, and the whole thing becomes so not worth the time and money. Now I am officially done with any Russian/Ukrainian/etc. masseurs operating out of Hell's Kitchen. I think they all (or most, anyway) work for a guy that rents an apartment and handles their text messages and appointments. Most are athletic straight dudes with basic or less than basic English (which you discover to your surprise when you meet) eager to make a good buck, they price aggressively at $150-160 and the whole thing just doesn't work for me. Not to mention that the operation's "manager" might send you a different guy from the one that you see on MF, just not worth the hassle...
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Bumping this, any data points on Justin?
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My guess: New arrival from Ukraine or another Eastern European country, someone else will handle your texts and guide you to an apartment that multiple masseurs from the same part of the world share for massages. You'll likely discover his English probably isn't very good and your experience will be anything from abysmal (like a totally different guy showing up) to excellent (he is real, actually knows what he is doing, and delivers).
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Wow, he resurfaced, I hope something has changed since this old comment: https://m4m-forum.org/threads/nick-in-chicago.114369/#post-1119504
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$150 an hour for purely therapeutic massage?! I can get absolutely top notch therapeutic massage on the next block for $80 an hour, so the question is do his good looks and nice personality justify the difference? I'd say no. And the huge Houston market seems to agree given his agressive travel schedule. If he offered more value for what he charges a city of that size would keep him plenty busy, just my 2c.
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He must have a really good agent. I mean, someone has to book all those hotels on his schedule . Or this could be a case of a particularly aggressive prospecting? Which typically isn't a good sign
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