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Alex/Alexei from Miami, currently in ATL .. any experience?
Capitano replied to shadowcatzxxx's topic in Spas & Masseurs
I am Capitano and I approve this massage. :-) PS Updated link, so this page can pop up in search results: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/5122/ -
Avoid this dude who doesn't know what he is doing yet seems to think he is "all that" and every gay man's dream just because he is straight. https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/31710/ His brother is a successful and highly praised masseur in DC who probably introduced him to this business because the money can be good. But I was so pissed off at my experience in NOLA that I have no desire to see his brother next time I am in DC. Plus they look so similar, I'd be having (very negative) flashbacks.
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I posted on his other ads in the past, one of my worst massage experiences ever. A self-centered diva who thinks it's an ultimate turn-on to see him in his undies, so much so that any client blessed to be in his presence will want to "finish himself." He may look masculine but sounds very whiny and affectatious, and is SO into himself. Massage skills mediocre, strict avoidance of glutes, and of course no touching. Avoid unless you are interested in supporting a "model" who doesn't get enough modeling gigs so he is forced to do something he clearly finds beneath him. But the money is good if he can find enough suckers.
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Bumping this, any info on Nick from Pittsburgh? Here is his new link on masseurfinder, so that people can find this page: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/17050/
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My baseline is that I can get excellent therapeutic massage at a chiropractor's office next door for $80 an hour. My thing is that I like to feel comfortable and not worry about getting one of my very frequent erections AND I absolutely need to have my glutes taken care of because I run and do weights, so you can imagine how these two needs are correlated. The best way to keep me relaxed and comfortable is if the masseur is willing to be naked with me as well, to level the playing field so to speak. I'll pay $120 for a competent masseur willing to do all that and $140 if he is really hot. I go for 90 minute sessions, so this usually ends up being in the $150-$200 range. I am not into sexual escorty stuff anyway but if the guy is hot and there is chemistry some mutual touching and teasing is a super nice way to complete the session, and here I am willing to go up to $160 but prefer to keep it at $140-$150 (so $200-$220 for 90 minutes). I don't know why people immediately jump to comparisons with escorts, to me, this is more like a Montreal stripper experience element, you see a hot guy and you get to touch him a little, that's all, no oral or anal sex. Now, the problem arises with guys who see this gig as an easy way to make money, especially if they are straight, which often makes them act as if they were doing you some kind of favor. A guy with (1) no or low massage skills and (2) unwilling to get naked is a total ripoff at any price level no matter how hot he is. A hot guy with one of the two issues is a rip off at any price above $100, but I wouldn't hire him even if he charged less than $100 because of my basic option listed above. In any case, it is remarkable how many of the listings on masseurfinder and rentmasseur fall into this "let's make some easy money" category. So be ready for the most likely outcome of a "meh" experience when you hire a new masseur, sad but true. Especially if you get no recommendation from this forum, but keep in mind that you still may end up unhappy even after receiving assurances from some of the members here ;-)
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Oh, I am coming, I figured it's not an issue if you sit at the right angle, I am just saying that some may be intimidated by it. Back to the most important question, is it still $20 a dance? :-)
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A practical question: is it still $20 Canadian for a dance? :-) PS From what I remember, Stock was a little classier with curtains, larger and better lit booths, etc. but I felt comfortable in both places. The downside of Stock for many is the webcast, I don't like it when my picture pops up on Facebook when a friends posts it, much less to be splashed on screens worldwide to people watching strip shows.
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Is this a gig for textile fetishists eager to touch & feel materials he is wearing?
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Luka is a good looking guy. That's the only positive I can think of, everything else is either bad or downright awful, especially his "people skills." To the point that I wouldn't use a coupon for a free massage if it landed in my lap through some kind of miracle. Sorry to sugarcoat things, please don't ask me how I really feel :-)
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Mario is a nice & friendly guy, pretty big, muscular, and hot although not that toned, his technical skills are adequate, but there was a little too much body-to-body contact at one point and it kind of came all of a sudden during the massage. I suspect bottoms might enjoy it more than I did, I will not repeat next time in Houston.
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Any input on RevitalizeUrCore (Brian) in Chicago?
Capitano replied to rjk2429's topic in Spas & Masseurs
Maybe there is a way to gently suggest that he should update his page on rantmasseur, stats and pictures? I think he is losing business, I won't book with someone whose ad is over 10 years old. -
Thank you! I find it frustrating that relatively few people on this forum tend to come forward with their experiences and/or information. To the point that I am likely to stop responding to PM requests for information by people who never contribute in the public forum and/or never gave me any useful information in private. I mean, come on, guys, you can't only take, gotta contribute too.
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I call it the Eastern European hang-up, straight guys from over there who like the money they can make in "sensual" m4m massages but have a big taboo against touching anywhere near your glutes and/or especially "there" even accidentally. But they don't mind getting naked and even being touched "respectfully." For some reason, their American counterparts often prefer the opposite, will provide or at least try a very mechanical HE but their big taboo is getting naked with you (American hang-up in my dictionary) and especially being touched, pretty much anywhere. As someone who doesn't necessarily seek "sensuality" (if something happens because the chemistry is right, fine, but let's not force anything otherwise) but really wants a GOOD massage, the biggest turnoff is the tension. You can feel they are tense because they need to "justify" the high rate in the end even though they hate it, you don't want them to even try because it's forced, yet it's difficult to communicate. Avoid. Massage should be fun and relaxation.
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"They replied that they prefer to work together but do 2-handed occasionally." This would have been enough for me to move on. Massage is a highly personal service, when you corner someone into doing something they are not happy with how good can it be? The only way I might hire one of the two is when the other travels and is not in town, then you might have a shot, and "occasionally" probably refers to those situations. They clearly want to work together and have issues they are working on. It's not like they hid their preference, they just stated it in too mild a way. Granted, it was unpleasant on your side but try to imagine the fight they might have had in the runup to the message you received? Finally, look at the bright side, there are other stories on this forum in which the masseurs ditch a 2-handed massage without any warning and never-ever even acknowledge or apologize. The world we live in. PS I hope you didn't agree to pay the same price for the 2-handed massage and then cancelled when proposed to get 2 more hands for free? Think about what that might do to their interpersonal dynamics and self-esteem of one of the two. As I stated before, if you are into 2-handed, best not to mess with couples working together.
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Hey, it could be worse, like putting his phone on your back or ass so that he can have it in full view.
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I no longer schedule anything with guys offering 4-handed massages. I like individual 1-on-1 experiences and I know that they are likely to ditch me if another client who wants a 4-handed massage shows up. It's simple math to them, they earn way more money and they work together (which they like) that way, rather than have one work on me and the other being idle and bored. Granted, a promise we made is more important to the rest of us but a traveling masseur or a masseur couple are unlikely to see you ever again, so they are prone to behaving more opportunistically. The only downside to them being this forum Plus how engaged can a masseur be if he is thinking about his boyfriend impatiently waiting in the other room, or wherever? So whenever a masseur tries to sell me a 4-handed upgrade I just cancel and move on.
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Bumping this, has anyone seen Sonny? https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/31035/
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Drive-by, hit-and-run, city baiting, and other scams
Capitano replied to Capitano's topic in Spas & Masseurs
Here they are again, same ad text, new pictures, stats that don't make much sense (there is no way Daniela can be 5'7" and 185 lbs), and the same fucking phone number for two guys! My only question is what they are up to, what is the nature of the scam? https://rentmasseur.com/Daniela https://rentmasseur.com/Kana PS They are running out of names. -
Bump, he is coming to Chicago and I am looking for a new masseur to try and maybe introduce into my mix of regulars. Any recent experiences, how tall is he, does he do glutes, and does it get sensual? Feel free to PM if you prefer, I noticed general reluctance to go into details here https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/31179/ (new link on mf, in case someone might be searching for it)
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Am I the only guy who feels like the hotter the two guys, the more you feel like a third wheel? So much so that I tend to cancel the massage if the guy tries to push his partner on me. I mean, how engaged can he really be if he prefers something else (working with his buddy and making more money in aggregate) to working on you alone (as YOU prefer)? Plus there is always that risk that they might ditch you at the last minute if a client comes along and wants a 4-handed massage in the same time slot. So I prefer not to bother with guys working with their partners.
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Miko Columbus, IN (or Michael Bloomington ,IN)
Capitano replied to collegeguy88's topic in Spas & Masseurs
WHOA, the price is now $140 and the 4-handed massage with his gf is no longer mentioned. It could be that the times are becoming tough with all the changes at MF. Guys seem to be flocking to rentmasseur but I am not sure they realize the expectations they set by checking certain boxes. But then again, he lists $180 there and checks both "sensual" and "erotic" so who knows, maybe someone should try? https://rentmasseur.com/Rhumzensual -
https://rentmasseur.com/Worldclassmasage Oh Gawd, here he comes again, so I thought I should share. The anal/controlling personality and charm of a nosy southern landlady who also happens to think she is "all that." The massage was technically ok but the vibe was weird from the start, that is, the formal and faux-friendly chat upfront that felt more like an interview. It all culminated in the attempted "sensual" or "erotic" (he lists both, go figure!) part, when he left the room to take off his shorts and came back with a sock on his package LOL. It was like, "Dude, relax, I have no desire to touch you and I certainly don't want you touching me." I couldn't wait to pay and get out of his "4-star hotel room." Yeah, when someone brags about the places they stay when nobody asks, it should be a red flag. Not the worst massage I ever got but definitely the most ridiculous massage experience.
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I wonder what they require of masseurs advertising in cities outside the United States? They are a global site (although I cheer for rentmasseur kicking their ass). Maybe they do the same passport + selfie routine for all, but then the question is whether they check whether a Ukrainian masseur located in Paris has the authorization to work in France? The same questions go for Canada too, eh? ;-)
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Bumping this, any recent experiences?
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While $250 is certainly pushing it, at least IMHO, I actually like the idea of specializing in the high end segment of the market. I'd much rather see a masseur who does 90 minute appointments only than one that does strictly 60 minutes. It's a more thorough massage and a more relaxed experience for the client, and it can be a very good business strategy for the masseur as there are fewer setups to coordinate and the clientele is likely to be higher paying. This is NOT for a newbie who "doesn't know what to do" (I've often heard that, a big red flag!) with the client for 90 minutes. Well, a masseur that knows how to and does the head, feet, hands, chest/front, it actually makes sense! Having said that, I am comfortable going up to $240 for a truly great 90-minute experience, so it better be extraordinary if the rate is higher. I might see Jay next time in NY, while the rate is high, he seems like an educated, sexy, mature dude, just my type ;-)!
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