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pubic_assistance got a reaction from + JamesB in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
Yes.
But your comment will fall on deaf-ears.
It's been discussed ad-nauseum.
It's always "the other person's fault".
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from + Charlie in Have you been pooping wrong your whole life?
We have one of those Japanese toilets that washes and dries your ass.
I don't feel clean using toilet paper since we started using ours.
We are planning to swap out all our toilets now.
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pubic_assistance reacted to Trick in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
If there’s one thing I’ve seen from these screenshots, it is that your dealings with clients is abrasive and argumentative. It appears that much communication is spent proving you’re not a scammer. Could that be what turns off people who contact you and make them decide not to book?
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pubic_assistance reacted to Ali Gator in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
Once again, I need to point out that this is the cost of being in business for oneself, especially a service business. Whether you're a provider, a hairdresser, a restaurant owner, B&B owner, mechanic, etc. - THIS is the cost of doing business. It happens to the most experienced of us and the least experienced of us. You live and hopefully learn.
A friend of mine has been a mechanic for 25 years (that's how long I've been going to him), working at the same small business. This past Spring, when he turned 50, he took the plunge - invested his savings and bought the business from the owner. It's what he has wanted to do all his working life - be his own boss / business owner. The garage itself is small, and the property it sits on is small which made it more appealing, as he knew it would be easier to control his expenses. He hired a part-time mechanic to work with him through the summer, hoping to make him full time by now.
He actually lost money over the summer as long-time customers who made appointments were 'no shows'. Of the half dozen or so appointments he made for each day (6 days a week) one or two would show up (those were usually new customers). The ones who didn't show up would never call, and those he could reach by phone made excuses ("I thought the appointment was next week"). He couldn't wrap his head around it - these were long-time customers of the business, he knew them well, and now they were treating him like shit.
The fall hasn't been so wonderful, either. He's had many sleepless nights trying to figure out how he can make ends meet. He's going to stick it out, as he really has no other feasible choice at this point. He started to ask for a small deposit with the appointments, but no one was willing to fork over $50 - instead they promised him they'd never cancel or be a no-show (so far, not true). With a little bit of my help via my own experience, he's learned to deal with it and make the best of it. It comes with the territory.
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pubic_assistance reacted to Lolito in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
Jarrod mentioned that the “clients” did one of three things- flaked, cancelled, or ghosted. They paid the deposit, so it is perfectly reasonable that they forfeited it. There is nothing to “beware” there on the part of Jarrod.
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pubic_assistance reacted to Trick in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
I was going to suggest that he stays put in his city, set up his place to be able to host and work on building his client base there. There’s no “capital” to put down this way. But I’m sure I’ll get a long reply explaining why the idea isn’t viable.
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pubic_assistance reacted to marylander1940 in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
Agreed!
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pubic_assistance reacted to Trick in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
I came here to make the same comment. After reading a long post, I came to the conclusion that NO ONE WAS SCAMMED. If I understood correctly, someone might have even made $150 from deposits. It was just a story of a business that’s not doing well.
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pubic_assistance reacted to marylander1940 in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
I wouldn't use the word scam to refer to a no show.
When I read the name of the thread, I assumed someone had stolen money from you, hacked your Venmo, etc.
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pubic_assistance reacted to jeezifonly in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
Did some trimming for clarification.
😎🤣
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pubic_assistance reacted to Jarrod_Uncut in “Scammed” multiple times on 1st cross country tour this year
Once or twice year I’ll pack up a month’s worth of luggage (which is a lot for me) and do at least 2 cross country rides. Generally called “tours” and can last a month or longer. This year, for fairly understandable reasons (hotel prices, gas, biz being less than desired): I haven’t done any. I’ve been traveling, but mainly just keeping it within a day or 2 drive from my home market in the middle of America. The last time I did one, was going to D.C. September 2023, but I couldn’t continue to New York, because I came down with Covid while I was in D.C. (Thankfully got on Paxlovid the next day and only took a couple days to clear).
But, I decided to go out on a limb and do a trip to California South this year: especially since hotels dropped in prices a lot once school started back up. Overall, it’s a 3-4 day drive across a few cities…but staying in each one for a couple/few days can add more time to it.
On my way to California: things were good, but there was rocky periods in between. Got scammed on the 2nd city I went to: Denver. I had a person I set up before arriving (albeit he didn’t send a deposit, my first mistake). I get there, he drags things along, eventually cancelling the morning of. Not great but, I got past it. However that was my only other booking I had scheduled because I only planned to stay 2 nights max. But ended up being a night and half day instead. Went to the next state, stayed a few days: booked 3 clients, everything was looking up.
Then I went to Arizona, and other than 1 newbie in Phoenix and 1 regular elsewhere: it was nothing going on. 1 guy who was in touch with me WEEKS prior to arriving, he ghosted when I got there, but then reached out again on my last day. I’m asking him to confirm, he doesn’t…just kept BSing and asking questions like, “are you really here”, wasn’t picking up his phone when I called: waits til 10:30 pm to say “I’m ready to send it” when I was telling him at 3 pm I needed a confirmed deposit within an hour: I told him too late, and I continued on to my next destination in California.
Get to California: Shit show central. Multiple booking requests in San Diego area, not a single one panned out. Also advertised LA/Palm Springs: Only person I met was someone I was doing a makeup session from earlier this year. Everybody else were just playing games. Ended up traveling 3.5 hours to another city in the valley. Booked with a couple serious clients full service, but had horrendous World Series LA traffic to get there.
I did another round to San Diego and Palm Springs, But still nothing. It was coming up to Halloween and I was ready to leave, even though I was enjoying my time and the people I was with.
The biggest “scams” came on the drive back: I stopped in 3 cities, and not a single person from RentMen or RentMasseur managed to SHOW UP. One after the next flaked, ghosted or cancelled. I only got 2 deposits worth $150 out of it all. It literally felt like zombie apocalypse the whole drive back. Election Day of course didn’t make things any better. I actually took my number down except on my website for a few days: I didn’t even have the motivation to answer the phone anymore. I was out of money, out of patience, and just couldn’t be bothered.
My latest scam: client reached out, requested a session: says he “hasn’t had good luck” with deposits. I agree to meet him with address as alternative: Sends address but then goes completely ghost the next day, even reading text to confirm…and ignores it. So I didn’t even waste my time going. Actually, the scam after that was when I stayed in a city an extra day, person reached out late for either a morning session or “could he spend the night” at my hotel if he came over: which I said normally not for a first time client, but then he still flaked the next morning, never sent deposit as requested even though HE SAID he could do Venmo. And then just declined the cancellation fee request that I CLEARLY OUTLINE in my ad:
The whole point of this is simply saying: No matter how many times a client(s) claim they’ve gotten scammed: for every 1 time it happens, it could be happening 10 times for us. It’s sad that I can’t really trust the majority of people who reach out from the RM sites much. I don’t know what’s happened, places that I used to do well: were barely producing this time. And I don’t get to do trips like this often. This was a lot of money and time spent, yet I only accomplished 1/4 of what I needed done because: without clients keeping their word, it makes it harder to afford the trip and take care of expenses back home.
And before anyone says it: this is not a pity party or “playing the victim” (and people should read why that’s bad form). This is just an illustration of how merely advertising in the industry as a Rent Man/Masseur can be exhausting, unpredictable, expensive, and not always exactly what it seems. If anything, there needs to be more accountability taken by clients and the RentMen platforms, versus cowering away from a responsibility to be reliable with people they reach out to.
It’s also not great when a “client” contacts a provider like myself and uses words like “sounds like a scam/scammer” or immediately refers to being burned by another escort who I have no idea from Adam. I don’t think that requires me to let down my guard and take a risk, multiple risk(S) that I’ve already taken more than once and seen the results.
Going forward, I’m limiting a lot of my accessibility to texting and being very to the point with inquiries, moreso than I’ve already been. If I have to screen shot my ad to them, and making sure they’ve actually read and agree ✅, that may be what it takes.
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pubic_assistance reacted to AtlTopGuy in KennedyConnor, anyone familiar with?
I have met with him. His look changed a bit..used to have a lot more hair and a lighter shade. He used to be a dancer at BJs (could still be I just dont know). He is a soft spoken. Performed as promised and I had a fun time. Was going to meet up with him again but he started to talk about how valuable his 'assets' were and how much other guy's were paying for him. To me that is a total turnoff, charge me what you want to charge me and be up front about it..don't just start hinting that you are more/less valuable to me or others or that up-charging may be in the future.
DM if you have any more questions.
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from moonlight in A naive question about up-sells
I do genuinely like a good massage. So what I do to weed-out weak providers is to avoid hiring anyone who doesn't check "therapeutic" on their Rentmasseur profile. Obviously not a perfect system but in my estimation, weeds out at least a third of the losers.
On the subject of the "upsell"...I have a policy of never discussing sexual services in writing. So my time with a masseur is about letting them do their thing. I ask for a mix of therapeutic and erotic and accept what's given for the price agreed.
Now...when it comes to any sexual services....I'm a guy....so I'm not gonna say no to a blow job. I didn't hire the provider for a blowjob...but here I am cock out / throbbing with excitement. If I enjoy the company I'm in and I'm offered oral sex, I am not offended if he expects to be PAID.
I'm NOT on a "date"...he's not blowing me because he likes me.
To me it's all about HOW the upsell is presented...not IF it's presented.
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from + Pensant in Tipping the Uber (or Lyft) Driver
I always use the app to tip...
Cash is often prefrred as undeclared (and therefore untaxed) income.
Unfortunately (for them) the app is just too efficient to be fumbling for my wallet.
I do tend to tip in cash for exceptional.service of.many other kinds.
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from + DynamicUno in Yet another fine dining establishment is struggling
Clearly you don't work in corporate.
Growth is about profit NOT how you make profit
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from MikeBiDude in Yet another fine dining establishment is struggling
Clearly you don't work in corporate.
Growth is about profit NOT how you make profit
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from mike carey in Yet another fine dining establishment is struggling
Clearly you don't work in corporate.
Growth is about profit NOT how you make profit
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from marylander1940 in Yet another fine dining establishment is struggling
Company "growth" is not judged by locations....it's metric is income and profit.
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pubic_assistance reacted to GHart in NYC clients: would you see a masseur just outside the city?
Brooklyn is in NYC.
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pubic_assistance reacted to Boaxxx in A naive question about up-sells
I assumed for both but didn't ask since I didn't have extra cash stuffed in my wallet. And I agree that would have been a good deal if it was for both but details were never discussed.
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pubic_assistance reacted to Ali Gator in Yet another fine dining establishment is struggling
Company growth is judged by expansion - adding more locations (not replacing existing locations) is what they are looking for in their quarterly meetings. Stockholders want to hear "We're adding 10 more stores in the Boston metro area in the first quarter of 2025 to bring the total in that area to 13" - not "We're closing 3 stores in the Boston metro area, and relocating them to other locations, so we will continue to have 3 locations in Boston in the first quarter of 2025 ."
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from + Axiom2001 in NEIGHBOURS SON !!
Definitely my kinda guy. 🥰 Great body proportions surrounding that 🍑 perfect ass.
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pubic_assistance got a reaction from + DrownedBoy in NYC clients: would you see a masseur just outside the city?
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pubic_assistance reacted to + azdr0710 in Nineinjock near NYC
There may be some limits for new members messaging others here in the forum?? Maybe we'll get clarification from a moderator. Gee, all this blocking/unblocking. 😑
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pubic_assistance reacted to 9injock in Nineinjock near NYC
Sorry for those to whom I blocked, but I’m being seriously harassed by somebody who keeps making new profiles over and over and over again so if your profile would happen to be new or within the last couple of months, I will block you instantly due to the nature I just stated. It no hard feelings. I don’t trust new profiles. And for the name change is because I was dating someone and I took that profile off and since we are no longer dating I came back onto rentmen. I hope that sums everything up for everyone. If you’ve never been seriously harassed when you don’t even know the person then you would understand what I’m going through.