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Intelligence is fundamental too. I wasn't referring to myself . Anyone with half a brain would have caught that. I never referred to any personal attack.

I'll suck your dick for $24.99 😉

I've rarely met a gay twin WHO's brother was also gay. ( Otherwise I'd have had my final check off from my sexual bucket list ).

Well, I care. That's why I started the conversation. You're speaking from your own life. You're gay. Period. End of sentence. But that's NOT how it works for the thousands of young people who are identifying as sexually fluid. You may not care about them. You don't need to...but this conversation is about that growing trend to YES, make a choice. I think if CHOICE is seen as the common state of being, then the "irreparable harm" you speak of will not circle around this time.

You're painting with a wide brush, Mr. Certainly this can be true, but being selective doesn't make you a racist. That's absurd.

Theres an exception to every rule.

The thread is about choosing your sexuality. Numerous people have shared their journey. Others have made it clear there was no "journey". I would appreciate if we can avoid making this an argument. It's (mostly) a discussion about sexual fluidity and decisions, not about predetermined destiny. Share your opinion, Share your journey.

I can't speak to how high-class he might be, but he's damn pretty. Those Brazilians !! God definitely added some extra sexy to the gene pool down there.

wrong.

I concur. I have not been with a ton of well-endowed men, but I did notice that none of them ever got as hard as I do...so I'm going to assume it's typical of the big-dick crowd and not that I'm consistently un-attractive to guys with big dicks. 😜

I would add that this is a general European vs. American issue for many service industry jobs. Americans EXPECT a tip. Europeans don't.

Which is where I have a problem with Unicorn's insistence that people are just born gay. There are obviously men who've never been attracted to women in the least, I get that. But I think the population of men who are attracted to both is way under counted and are being deliberately ignored to further this search for "the gay gene" which allows devout homosexuals to claim to be a victim of biology. They may very well be so, but I find it interesting that the rest of us are consistently swept under the carpet. An inconvenient truth to the more broad definition of sexually fluid people. Unicorn has been absolute in his insistence that not one single human being can have any volition in his sexual nature. It's all genetics. I don't personally feel that way about myself and I certainly know plenty of other men who have wandered in and out of homosexual relations before landing on a decision for how they chose to settle down. The mere suggestion that anyone has chosen his sexual pathway seems to infuriate old timers who only wish to subscribe to the "born this way" narrative, as if NO ONE ever could possibly have this choice.

Welcome to the forum Andres.

And THIS is the problem with tipping culture. EVERYONE will have a different answer to that question. Overall, this occurs more often at a spa or massage place that has staff. The price is set and the staff works for tips, so are more inclined to quietly offer sexual services. Since they shouldn't be doing this at all....you get the vague "tip me well ?" question thrown at you. A private provider is more likely to be upfront about additional menu items...but masseurs do have a tendency to wait until you're ready to bust a nut to discuss the pricing structure. As far as pricing with sexual add-ons ...you need to sort of work backwards. Handsome escorts charge $ 300/ hr min for sex work. You paid $ 150 for an hour massage. So you've paid half the price of the sex worker. For a handjob they're looking for a nice tip ( $ 20 to 30 ) for a blowjob they're expecting you to round that up to $ 200 minimum. But that's still less than the sex worker is charging. But of course the sex worker is also spending more time than a two minute blowjob when you're already hard and ready to nut.

THAT is truly disappointing. I find this rather shocking (considering all the massive amounts of virtue signaling).

You would think, but in the massage business, the sexuality of this can get buried in the term "lingam massage" which is a legitimate technique to help prevent protstate cancer.

In MY experience I have never gotten a blowjob from a masseur without some negotiation of a "good tip" or a specific quote of a rate change. But if you get a "you tip me well" comment, he isn't talking about $ 20.

I'm curious, since you're so insistent that your homosexuality is absolutely biological and beyond any volition and you're also insistent that every homosexual is a prisoner of biology...how do you classify all the teenage boys who get it on with each other in countries where it's important to marry a virgin ? As an example, in Turkey, it's more common now for women to attend college before wedding. So they are marrying later, and the boys their age group need to wait longer for their virgin bride. Because of this they tend to take a male "lover" during those years in their late teens and twenties, to work out their sexual needs. The majority drop their male companion once married and a few do not. Are these men, bisexual, homosexuals forced to marry or heterosexuals forced to have sex with homosexuals ? You seem insistent that everything be packed up into tidy boxes with homosexuality being a chromosome, and not influenced by any social issue. Where are the lines drawn in your biological explanations of this community ? What about bushmen in Africa who spend weeks out hunting and use the younger boys in the tribe for sex while they are away from their wife ? Homosexual, bisexual, heterosexuals holding their nose ? You seem very oblivious to the vast gray areas of human sexuality.

Absolutely at the discretion of the masseur. A blowjob crosses the line from masseur to prostitution so as Jamie21 mentioned you are crossing into legal matters when you start paying someone for sexual favors. My advice is to do less planning and go with the flow. Book your happy ending massage. See how your provider approaches the happy ending on his own, and if you like this person, discuss afterwards if there are other menu options that they might be interested in providing for the next time.

Is this true ? That I would find very hypocritical if it's so. I thought the whole rainbow flag thing was about inclusion. Anyway..that's a discussion for another thread. But I am shocked to hear this.

There is also the issue of a private practice vs. a spa/massage center. A private masseur takes all the money home, where someone at a spa only gets a portion of your payment. So tipping is less crucial for the income of the private person.

Cost of living varies tremendously from place to place. But yes...if you can travel somewhere new and get laid for the same price as a stay at home fuck ..by all means go for the travel hook up.

Discuss away. But a provider has a right to conduct business in their own way. If people don't like it. Don't shop there.

By the first of this year, most all costs have gone up by 15% to 20% so every small business owner should raise their rates accordingly. You are wise and considerate to recognize this.

I own a small business myself. I don't serve everyone. I am selective about my clientele and you need to come with references. I fully believe that every small business owner has a right to do the same. It's not like public housing or a hospital.