Agree, but there are many who barely, if at all, reduce even at hr 3. Like Epigonos, I prefer longer hires. But many of the NYC/LA guys would not do so, so I limit to 1 or 2 hours or simply pass. I think they are doing themselves in over the long run, but that's their business and they can do what they want. I haven't seen the 400, but I definitely would not be hiring them.