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Some guys are grossed out by it.

The monthly dues at most of the boxes around SF are up there. They are not as high as a high-end health club like the Bay Club, but they are quite a bit higher than mass-market places like 24-hour fitness and City Sports.

I"m certainly there to look at the men, but it's not my primary purpose. I stay very focused on my workout. There's an occasional gay guy at my gym, but most are straight. I have friendly relationships with a lot of them.

But isn't the shame experienced by the object of the shaming? Would somebody who is bottom-shaming somebody be ashamed of the other guy being a bottom?

Isn't that self-loathing? Someone realizes he's different from what society deems correct or proper and he despises himself because of it?

Of course it is. Self-loathing crops up in many places and in many forms.

I think there are more bottoms than tops, in general. It seems there are more top escorts than bottom escorts. But the high number of top escorts is a reflection of the fact that most of the guys doing the hiring are bottoms. Supply and demand. He doesn't seem to be advertising any more, but there was a guy in Sacramento, a complete fucking stud man, who is a total bottom.

It's true. If you don't eat right, the exercise is almost pointless. I'm a gym rat - love it. I don't have any trouble making it to the gym. If I had the time, I could easily spend 2 hours a day there. I like the fist bumps, the camaraderie and all that stuff that goes with going to the gym. Years ago, I moved back to the city where I grew up to help my father through a serious illness. As soon as I got there, I joined a gym and started going regularly. But I also developed absolutely atrocious eating habits - hot dogs, pizza, Buffalo wings all with liberal servings of TV. Sure enough I started to gain weight and it was very difficult to get my eating habits under control again. I'd control myself for 3 0r 4 days and then I'd be sitting in front of the TV and I would start thinking of Dunkin' Donuts and I would be up off the couch and into the car in no time to head over there. When I moved to California, it took months to lose all that pizza weight.

Are you talking about the Queen?

Just don't discuss ethnicity and its smooth sailing. I have always noticed that, if I avoid talking about something, I think of it less and less until I hardly think about at all. It's that way with ethnicity. I barely think about it.

I completely skirt the problem by keeping ethnicity very low on my list of conversation topics.

I never would. They seem very proud. I've worked with plenty of them. Even was under the care of a Persian doctor. There are so many different ethnicities in the middle east. A had always assumed the Lebanese were Arabs until a Lebanese guy corrected me and said that they were Phoenicians.

I can't tell the difference between Persians and Arabs. Generally, that part of the world produces some startingly sexy men.

He's certainly hot, but I'm always turned off by guys who inform you that they don't "have to" escort.

There's a strange sub-text: that you need "help" and he is assigning himself the task of being your "helper." I see boundary issues looming. Your job is to maintain the boundaries that have worked so well.

I dont think it's bad taste to ask an escort to do anything, within reason. He's free to say no.

I was wondering about that. He must have an account at the local lab.

One of my favorite towns.

You mean you think he's using anabolic steroids? There are drugs now which prevent the tiny nuts.

To each his own. I think they're beyond hot. I would lick every inch of him.

I've been in contact with him. He sells his videos online. I wanted to buy some of his videos because, in addition to being hot, I thought I could use them to punch up my flexing for the contest stage. He was flattered when I told him what I wanted them for. But then he never followed through.

You have to learn to manage your time. I'm not an escort but I bill by the hour. I am quite a talker, and I love talking about what I do, and if I don't control the interaction, clients will sit there, asking questions, getting free advice till the cows come home. I had to develop the discipline to keep my mouth shut at the end of the time allocated to the particular client. Escorts are in much the same boat.

LA is thick with actor/model/waiter/escort/personal trainer/bodyworkers. They had it easy in the 40s-50s. They just had to hang out at Schwab's Drugstore waiting to be discovered.

He hit me up on RM. I keep my communications with guys on RM very businesslike because I want them to see right away that I'm not a time waster. He kept protesting the fact that I was a "man of few words." i also asked for a recent pic, which he was unwilling to provide, going off at me for asking. The whole thing was unpleasant. I don't like to resort to blocking people, even people like him. I suggested that we have no further contact, and he agreed. Haven't heard from him since.