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Rodgers continued working long after Hammerstein died in late summer 1960. His only near hit musical was "No Strings," which has a decent Original cast recording. In terms of reference, Hammerstein died when "The Sound of Music" was in it's first year on Broadway. Rodgers wrote the lyrics and music to "No Strings." I saw "The Sound of Music" in August 1960. The were many people in front of theater at the end, but I do not know why -- probably had little relevance to O. H.

I enjoy talking a little about personal lives. Long ago, I hired a guy from Texas for an overnight. We exchanged personal phone number. When I realize he was in trouble a few years later, I called him and we discussed the issues.

Many aspects of politcal science are far removed from science.

People who have enough money to hire guys are hardly leading lonely, sad lives. Granted some do, but still a strange conclusion.

Interesting. I always tip, unless the time spent together is truly awful. I wish this thread , or one like it, had existed a long time ago. Tell me again what happened to former porn star Billy Brandt?

Theater & Dance Washington Post Lies, drugs, cheating and all that jazz: Nicole Fosse opens up about her famous Broadway parents By Sarah L. Kaufman April 5 Nicole Fosse, the daughter of obsessive, trailblazing director and choreographer Bob Fosse and legendary Broadway dancer Gwen Verdon, grew up in rehearsal studios and smoke-filled editing rooms. Within those walls, she watched her famous parents reinvent the entertainment industry while their personal lives fell to pieces. As a producer and creative consultant on the new FX series “Fosse/Verdon,” which stars Sam Rockwell and Michelle Williams, Nicole Fosse has had to go through it all over again: the lies, lovers, drugs, breakdowns and the inexorable onrush of death. “If I didn’t have trouble with some of the moments, either there’s something wrong with me or something wrong with the piece,” Fosse, 56, says of the series, which premieres April 9. Bob Fosse and Gwen Verdon turned putting on a show into an art, a neurosis and a way of life. Nothing got in their way as they created a new theatrical style out of smoke, shadows and sexy, fine-tuned dancing, in such Broadway musicals as “Sweet Charity,” “Pippin” and “Chicago,” and the films “Cabaret” and the semi-autobiographical “All That Jazz.” Nothing stopped them, not Fosse’s pill habit, depression or heart attacks. Not his revolving bedroom door or the collapse of their marriage. (They separated but never divorced, and continued working together.) Artistic partners from the 1950s through the 1980s (Fosse died in 1987, Verdon in 2000), they threw boozy parties, had fascinating friends and cherished their bright, spunky daughter. But candor wasn’t their strength. “There was so much intellect and humor and love and joy that sometimes it made it more difficult to identify the struggle,” Fosse said by phone from New York. But she has realized this about her childhood: “There was a complete lack of clarity.” A creative team from the “Hamilton” family came together to address that, to shine a spotlight, over eight episodes, on the couple’s messy, unshakable drive and their frailties. The group includes director Thomas Kail, Lin-Manuel Miranda as one of the executive producers and choreographer Andy Blankenbuehler, whom Nicole Fosse met when he was dancing in “Fosse,” a 1999 Broadway tribute show. That team, Fosse says, is what clinched her participation in the series; when she first saw “Hamilton,” she felt a kinship. [‘Hamilton’ choreographer Andy Blankenbuehler delivers a revolution that rocks] “I realized the work that happened on that stage was changing Broadway forever and what is possible on a stage, and not just stylistically,” she says. “It created almost a new genre in how we approach storytelling. I feel like my parents did that in their generation.” Fosse, who danced and acted in her father’s films and helped her mother on “Fosse,” directs an organization called the Verdon Fosse Legacy, which protects and oversees her parents’ creations. There’s not a lot she doesn’t know about them, but one scene in “Fosse/Verdon,” set before she was born, gave her insight into her mother’s psyche, and what fueled some of her efforts to dodge the truth. It occurs in the 1953 Cole Porter musical “Can-Can,” on Broadway, a role that took the young, ambitious Verdon away from the baby son she’d had with her first husband, a reporter. On opening night, her bawdy, sensual heat and supreme dance finesse stopped the show. The audience erupted, and Verdon, who was changing for her next number, was dragged from her dressing room in a towel to acknowledge the ovation. With her stunned expression turning to gradual comprehension, Williams plays it perfectly, Fosse says. “Watching Michelle cycle through and break through and then back off of and lean into all the different emotions that she did, I really understood much more clearly a dividing line in my mother’s life that happened,” Fosse says. Sam Rockwell as Bob Fosse and Michelle Williams as Gwen Verdon in FX's "Fosse/Verdon." (Craig Blankenhorn/FX) “Prior to that she was a really hard-working, sweaty hoofer, just trying to get food on the table to feed herself and her kid and pay her rent. And her life changed for good and bad after that moment.” Verdon was suddenly a star, recognized on the streets of New York, and with that came the pressure to perform offstage, too. In public, even for a trip to the deli for bagels, she wore makeup and heels, always “Gwen Verdon,” Fosse recalls, her voice putting the name quotes. To escape that continuous pressure, sometimes her mother would rely on a little deception, with a different kind of performance. Entire article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/theater_dance/lies-drugs-cheating-and-all-that-jazz-nicole-fosse-opens-up-about-her-famous-broadway-parents/2019/04/04/e2930838-54f0-11e9-a047-748657a0a9d1_story.html?utm_term=.ffa5aaadcdd1

Isn't "buyer's remorse" occasionally another name for escort reviews?

My comment was not about sex, although it might happen. Most people would enjoy having another friend.

Or, perhaps more important, makes friends.

I also remember a "Dreamgirls" concert with Audra McDonald, which was also recorded.

I only saw Madeline once play a character in a musical on stage in New York. It was a concert version of Sondheim's "Anyone Can Whistle." Angela Lansbury introduced the performance. I believe Bernadette Peters also had a major role. Madeline was wonderful!

Before Annie, Mary Martin played Peter Pan in the Broadway musical and live of tv. After Annie, Mary was the original star of "The Sound of Music" on Broadway in 1959. I was wrong in writing she was not a major star.

Mary Martin was the first to do "Annie Get Your Gun" live on TV in 1950s. Mary was from Texas, and played Annie with a Southern accent. But, she was also a slightly more likeable Annie because John Raitt played Frank Butler. Mary was a bigger star, but not by much. That is something most productions of the musical seem to get wrong.

Thanks. Irving Berlin wrote that song when Ethel Merman agreed to a revival of "Annie Get Your Gun" in 1966-67 in New York. Nice to hear someone else sing that song.

Have you ever visited St. Louis? Unlike New York City, the Cardinals' baseball stadium* is located downtown near the arch and the Mississippi River. The city is also the home of Budweiser. I do not remember if the city has bagels even though I have been there four or five times. *The St. Louis Cardinals' attendance has been second only to the Los Angeles Dodgers for the last four or five years.

@marylander1940, great thread, I live near the University of Pennsylvania.

Now I understand why you mentioned being a father, grandfather and husband. Sorry it took me so long.

So disappointing. We're you not referring to the memories and nightmare dreams they had for the rest of their lives up to now?

@samhexum , what's the purpose of the dancing boys? I am the OP. Can't you add something a bit more meaningful to this freaking tread?

I wish you had doubled down on the possible life-changing "implications" rather than slammed Streisand. You made an excellent point and never took it to the next step. Many people had always been critical of Streisand.

Whitman's mention of the excellent recent biography of President and General Grant receives some responses. But, little was made about Alan Hollingsworth's most recent gay novel, The Sparsholt Affair.

OPINION ‘You wouldn’t believe the stuff we did’: 35 years later, Beverly Hills, PA Middle School teachers spill secrets | Maria Panaritis Updated: March 23, 2019 - 5:00 AM http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/maria-panaritis/ The Philadelphia Inquirer OPINION ‘You wouldn’t believe the stuff we did’: 35 years later, Beverly Hills Middle School teachers spill secrets | Maria Panaritis Updated: March 23, 2019 - 5:00 AM http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/maria-panaritis/ Imagine you are at lunch with 19 of your former middle school teachers. One shows up with a 1984 grade book with your test scores in it. Another, who helped you make bullets in metal shop, talks about how he used to prank that social studies teacher now holding your grades. The science teacher who made batteries from salt water and tin foil sits genially among them all. It is loud. Orders are flying for French onion soup, chicken dumplings, french fries, apple sauce. Your head is spinning. Are you dreaming? Are you dead? __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I did meet meet my 3rd and 6th grade teachers many years later. They remembered my name, but not much else. The 6th grade teacher was K. Shirley C....... Without my asking she told me her mother wanted to name her Shirley, but it was not a Catholic saints name. Her actual first name was Kathleen. The staff of the assisted living facility dislike her, The most common remark was why are you visiting her. And she did dominant the classroom. But when she became a principal, I understand, students would not see her entire personality. Give a lot of credit to the person who wrote this article. Anyone else?

I saw the play with Stanley Tucci and Edie Falco. I remember many people at the stage door afterwards waiting for "Carmela. The Sopranos was still on the air then!

Another comment from Steisand that I missed earlier: I didn't mean to dismiss those boys experience in any way. Like all survivors of sexual assault they will have to carry it with them for the rest of their lives. I feel deep remourse and I hope that James and Wade know that I truly respect them for speaking the truth. Comment: Out of touch in Malibu and Beverly Hills and anywhere else she lives

Streisand issued this statement a little while ago: To be crystal clear, there is no situation where it is o.k. for the innocence of children to be take advantage of by anyone. New York Times