MikeBiDude

Well one is documented (9.4%) vs “getting beat like a rented mule” not so empirical ? Many of the options in this thread are obviously AYOR some more risk than others. Kinda like walking the boulevard in the day, or using cruisingforsex.com when it was popular. Everyone has to be comfortable with their level of risk. For me Grindr, Tinder, Seeking.com, (Craigslist/BP in the past) etc have a risk level I have a method of gauging and managing. Walking the boulevard, propositioning a local “bracero”, exceed my risk comfort zone. Everyone needs to figure that for themselves.

Here’s a little info...there’s an LA Times article I’m still searching for: Propositioning Day Laborers Edit: another article from SoCal media, mentions above cite as well: https://www.dailynews.com/2006/07/02/solicitation-just-part-of-day-laborers-lives/

Yes, Mandalay??

This is my issue, what’s a “sustainable” rate for regular visits. If I hire Alam Wernick for a one time date his high rate is all good. But for a regular local guy...has to be sustainable/regular.

It takes a bit of sleuthing, and you need to be pretty thick skinned. But try some of the hints above and one I quoted below....worst they can say is no.

https://rentmen.eu/GageMalone I texted him earlier today...thinks very highly of himself. Went the whole “rate based on pics of you” etc. he was very pushy about wanting a meeting same day. He quoted $400/hour plus $100 “unprotected “ ??‍♂️ No meeting was scheduled ?

Good on you....somehow it’s more fun, right? Some of us enjoy the “hunt” more than just a slam dunk RM hire.

“Upselling” or “Suggestive” selling is part of the food service employee’s job and trained and encouraged by management. Often there are even contests for cash or gift cards to someone who moves the most orders of wings or whatnot. That said, "Is that all you want?" is NOT the right way to go about it, and sounds like your cashier/server was a bit robotic about it.

I’ve been surprised in the positive results on Tinder, from only being on the app a couple weeks. As a bi guy I enjoy “swiping right” on some of the women as well...they are quite forward with their sugar daddy/allowance requests. I notice they quickly want to move to text messaging vs app messaging? Probably to protect their profiles from getting reported. In fact, a couple time after switching to texts I’ve quickly been “unmatched” on the app and all future conversation and negotiations are done there. Surprising how many guys on Tinder are chatting me up too.? So far my one live Tinder Meet was A+ fun and for an extraordinarily reasonable allowance.

They hide them during overnight hours

@BlueSky ??‍♂️IDK, I’ve only been using it two weeks. When I initially set up it asked and I said both

So you catfished him with the fake pics?

No wonder escorts get frustrated by us clients wasting their time

His plans were to return to Los Angeles area after last weekend...I didn’t confirm that when texting him

How about Tinder? Probably not as productive but as with any “matchmaker” app there are outliers. I set my “discovery” settings to age group I’m interested in and keep distance away very low. That cuts down number of matches...but works for me. Just recently had a “match” from someone 4 miles away. Similar to seeking.com etc. we messaged back-and-forth for a bit, switched to text messaging as I started to get a feel for the situation, the match wanted to meet right away… I asked what their “allowance“ might be? Was quoted an extremely reasonable amount and was picking them up in my car and hour later for. Starbucks date and more. Back to my place, interactive Good fun, will be a repeat for sure.

You have to decide for yourself the level of risk you’re comfortable with...and as mentioned above:

I did text him, he didn’t give any specifics about “why” his account had been suspended but said he was working with A4A customer service and expected reinstatement

This!

“Meet counter” at Safeway.....hmmmmm, didn’t realize you liked “chicken” ? and met them there! I’ll have to look!! <tongue in cheek>! I’ve bought a lot of zacky farms and foster farms chix at Vons, etc and never got sick. I’m very careful handling it. I will say lately though I’ve been cooking chicken to 140-145° in the sous vide, then finishing elsewhere and probably not hitting recommended 165°, juicy chicken I’ll agree wholeheartedly Whole Foods, Sprouts, Trader Joe’s a better product and probably safer

Word! (Why am I agreeing with you lately? Lol)

How many years have we been preparing chicken? How many times has it made you sick? Zero sickness for me...but yeah I’m careful and in addition to kitchen wipes I have a squirt bottle of Clorox bleach for the cutting board. Yes...it’s a Boos WOOD cutting board, my Kramer knives prefer wood.

Just today I had a Grindr meet with a young man who was a dockworker local to me. Said he was straight but curious. Exactly my type, looks maybe a 6 of 10 but enthusiastic, not “straight” activities at all...he bottomed like a champ, no kissing. Asked for “gas money”.

I need to try IG....I know very little about it. ModelMayhem worked for me many years in the past uI haven’t even looked lately. It’s fun finding these casual guys...

Just an alternate route...and don’t lump us all together