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I’m not sure we disagree. That drugs seem to hAve ended his life does seem fitting, in a sense. The list of celebrities, both big and minor, is endless in this regard. Huge number in music realm, which of course is tied in with clubbing. Stars with a lot more to lose than Alig, ended their lives prematurely with hard drugs.

Just think how worse you'd be if you didn't use Creuset. lol

I love my set of Le Creuset. They are the kind of utensils you leave to someone in your will, as they will never wear out. Needless to say, they don't come cheap.

I know this is nit-picking but it's a quiet day. Men are blond and women are blonde. Of course they both must have yellow hair to qualify. LOL

Yes.

I had a 72 Ford Cougar, which was a lovely little car but impossible to drive with the pollution controls, which screwed up the carburetor, and it was forever stalling. I only kept it a year. 14 years later I bought a 72 Cutlass convertible, (same year as the Cougar) which was a beautiful car to drive in the summer and had no drivability issues with whatever pollution controls GM had put on it. I did manage to drive it into the ground however, with the rough mountain roads to my cottage. LOL

Beluga caviar and good French champagne.

I'm not saying the courts got it wrong. He took a plea deal after all. The DA figured they didn't have a strong enough case for premeditated murder, even though ironically Alig had once done a blood covered club scenario where he chopped off someone's head. It was all depicted on a poster; he was apparently quite attracted to blood. But the circumstances didn't support such a situation. It was the typical, banal homicide in a drug deal gone wrong. Alig acknowledged drugs had screwed up his life. That is the real tragedy here because the guy obviously had talent.

What you say is also true. Sometimes things that are not quality are overpriced and yet people still buy them. However that doesn't preclude the opposite. 18 karat gold is always more expensive than 10. Because it is of higher quality. Quality items may go on sale and discerning buyers will snap them up. But if items are scarce, they rarely, if ever, go on sale. Isn't the market place always amazing! And such fun to navigate.

I accept your explanation. It was the sad sign at the end that made me think you were serious.

You might stop looking in the mirror.

Generally speaking, quality always commands higher prices. Including escorts!

According to the police and lawyers portrayed in the doc. the three including the victim got into a fight in Alig's apartment where the victim had come to collect a drug debt. Angel, the dealer, pushed Alig first and then Alig and the other man tried to subdue Angel. It was either a lawyer or the cop who said after Angel had died if Alig had simply called the police or a lawyer, he would have got off on self defence. But Alig was under the influence of drugs and they made poor choices in trying to hide thebody. After 8 days they decided to dispose of the body and to get it to fit in a large box, they had to remove the legs. They then, with the help of a taxi driver, threw the crate in the Hudson River, where it floated to Staten Island and washed up on a beach there. The dectective said if they had drilled a hole in the box, it would have sunk in the river, which is what mobsters do, but these guys were no experts. Angels friends, which had included Alig as well, started looking for him and the cops put 2 and 2 together. Alig himself made self incriminating statements before he was arrested. The story reads like a film noir. Did you ever see The Black Dahlia? The victim there was cut in two as well.

I have so many “stolen” (from hotels I have stayed in) little bottles of shampoo, conditioner, mouth wash and small soap bars in my main bathroom just so anyone using the bath can help themselves to them. Easy come, easy go.

Which airline offers flights to Brazil for under $700 return? I’ll be looking to book a flight after we get thru this pandemic!

What I was trying to say in perhaps a hamfisted way was that my friends were victims of AIDS who unknowingly contracted the virus in the late 70s just by having good old sex and not seeing the dire consequences as no-one did at the time. Those who died of drug overdoses knew what danger they were courting when they engaged in such risky behaviour.

Having now finished watching the entire doc I came away with the thought that Michael Alig did leave a legacy that will endure. What struck me the most was what incredible art and effort went into the club kids’ costumes and makeup for a night on the town. Truly monumental and worthy of a retrospective in a museum some day. Near the conclusion they cite the example of Lady Gaga and how she profited from their inspired creations. Also a lot of other celebrities who adopted the extravagant look the club kids pioneered. It also became clear Alig worked hard behind the scenes to make these nightclubs successful in their day. And then finally, learning he spent 5 years of his 17 in prison in solitary confinement was stunning to hear. This guy killed someone but he was no Charles Manson.

One great line from the doc. is spoken by a gay man who said, “who we really wanted to have sex with were the bridge and tunnel guys who came over to party”.

I think that’s right. Our family cars never lasted more than 5 years. But we were rough on them as they had to navigate gravel roads to our cottage that lasted well into the 1950s. And the car would be loaded down with four kids, a dog, food to last at least a week, and luggage. Then in the winter, the salt on the roads in Montreal would eat away at them from the bottom. Even so cars are much better built today and last longer. My Mercedes turned 20 this year and is still going strong! Lol

I think the acid test will be after REM opens and people are then able to compare the time it takes to get to the airport from downtown hotels, where most business travellers and many tourists stay, and the airport.

I’ve watched over half of the documentary and will finish watching it later but the main story has already been told of the rise and fall of Michael Alig. What a story. It covers the period when New York hit bottom in the late 70s and early 80s and then through to the resurrection after the demise of the hedonistic club scene of the 90s which Alig had been such a central part of but consumed by ultimately. Giuliani is credited with routing out the druggies of the club scene Alig inhabited. He and his kids flourished after the death of Andy Warhol, whose pop art style is reflected in their style. I remember tales of the Limelight but my time a decade earlier had been to the dingy clubs on the west side like the Anvil and the Ramrod. Completely different style of gay life. Quality of Life became the watchword and it led to the gentrification of NYC which allows hedge funds to flourish and artistic creation to wither away. So life goes.

I wondered about the geography of the two routes because it seemed to me that if one were going under Mount Royal, one was necessarily going sideways to where Dorval is. Going from downtown through the Turcotte Interchange seemed to me to be heading directly to Dorval. But the important thing is to have a route with no stops between downtown and the airport. With stops you cause delays and the taxi option wins out.

I wasn’t very focussed on the NY scene during the period of the late 80s and early 90s as I had built a cottage in a compound with other gay friends and we spent all 4 seasons having fun in the natural environment. It only lasted 5 years as the core group got AIDS and died. But at least drugs didn’t get them. It was a crazy time. Lucky I survived.

Jadonis explained in post 12 the screening he went through to secure a date. It suggests it doesn’t hurt to ask even when escorts post this message in their ads on RM.

This reminds me of the Mirabel debacle. They built an airport there that nobody used because it took too long to get there from downtown. I read that the REM goes through the old Mount Royal tunnel to the north to catch the suburbs and does not provide the shorter direct route from downtown to the airport. Most people wanting to save time, which is the point after all, will have to take a taxi. Which defeats the whole purpose. I don’t know what they thinking.