Manhattan

I forgot about Why Not and Epic. I have no idea who owns them - never been to either one I've been told that Richard used to be a masseur, but more than a decade ago.

Fair enough. Any corrections or different information would be welcome.

From getting to know guys who work at the spas over the years.

I think Richard owns most of the city's spas for men at this point. Energy, W Man, 27, HK, Yeah Man as well as the closed Paris, 28, Grandee, East Men, New Yorker, TSMS. I believe Chelsea Men's Spa, G Men, Batman, and whatever Morning Dew is called now have different owners. Any other spas I'm forgetting?

Andy at W Man spa is the OG. He gives a great massage and is one of the nicest guys in the business. He's one of the few masseurs in the NYC spa scene who is WELL over 30. He's handsome with a great body. I believe he is manager at W Man and reserves the upstairs room for his customers. He does a great foot rub if you like that. He always takes good care of me and never disappoints. YMMV, but he's remained a favorite for years with good reason.

I've seen Jay at Batman several times. He gives a very reliable strong massage. He seems to really enjoy his work. He will talk to you and is pretty funny. Each one hour massage has been completely relaxing and fun. He has a very nice build and a decent face. He seems to like dyeing his hair orange or blond on occasion. No upselling or talk of tips. Highly recommended.

Now that the Energy thread is closed, maybe we can try starting threads about specific masseurs at NYC spas. With any luck the owner won't use the thread to advertise. I'll start. I saw Alvin last week at Energy for a one hour massage. Average looking asian guy with a nice body. Not talkative. Gives a great strong massage. Wore his baseball cap throughout. Although it was my first visit, he was very engaged and exceeded my expectations of relaxation by the end. No talk of tips. No talk at all. Highly recommend.

Providers - How often do straight clients show up out of curiosity and are unable to fully function sexually? Sexuality is complicated, but I know a couple of straight men who are very open to new experiences, but just can't get it up for another man, however good the massage. Also - do you get a lot of ring wearers who claim to be straight and married, but you can tell they are putting on an act? I sometimes wear my wedding band on my left hand and when asked if I'm straight, say yes. In our culture, the straight man fantasy still gets a lot of mileage.

Toni Collette was good and I pretty much enjoyed the series so Mae Martin gets credit for making it all happen. However, Mae Martin is a terrible actor. I haven't seen a performance this bad in a quite a while.

Hollywood is a very toxic place. I don't know if it's true, but rumor has it the co-stars have been having an affair for a while. I wonder if they are both idiots, or if he's a pig, or if she's a liar. Or all of the above.

At the risk of provoking you, it sounds like some of the communication problem might be about you. Many of us make appointments through text with site favorites like Peter, Lukas, Andy at Wmen,, Jay at Batman, August at 27, You might just be experiencing a string of bad luck or you might need to look deeper and see if you are responsible for the scheduling confusion.

Is anyone watching this show with Toni Collette as the director of a sinister juvie in VT? Two episodes in and it's fairly entertaining.

Maybe the masseur recognized the time and date the message was sent combined with information that was specific to their session. Whatever happened, the point is that private messages are private. If people don't respect that, the feature is useless.

I'm glad to see that Cherish reached out to try and address their mistake. Throughout this thread three members (and apparently the spa) have acknowledged your bad experience and expressed sympathy. There aren't many options for men on Long Island, and I'd like to see both Cherish and Prime thrive, which is not always easy for immigrants or asylum seekers who don't speak English as a first language.

Thank you for the recommendation! Just got tickets to see it in NYC. Metcalf is scheduled to do eight shows per week. I hope she takes good care of her health and doesn't miss my Saturday eve performance!