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LewisLMT reacted to LA90046 in True_LMT
I suspect that when you say "I re-read your profiles and prices saw many different prices" you are referring to the "Rate paid" indicated by reviewers.
When I see a rate paid in a review that does not align with the massage therapist's posted rates, I assume that the reviewer included any tip amount they may have added on or there was an additional service provided.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in True_LMT
I’m not engaging with that message any further because the story they’ve now written contradicts itself several times and doesn’t line up with reality. It’s impossible to do a massage standing.
I’ve never offered 4-hands with Thompson. I have in the past with another clinically trained therapist because our skill and techniques matched. Sadly he is no longer in Chicago. I’ve never done a session on a “cold hardwood floor,” for every single booking my massage table is set up with a carpet under, my studio was fully carpeted. Pictures of both set ups confirm.
Their original post implied I was physically aggressive. Now their “survival instincts” kicked in… yet somehow they also want to meet again? That alone tells me this narrative isn’t grounded in truth.
if I was fearful for my wellbeing you best believe I’m staying away from the psycho.
Even the details keep shifting:
– first it was my clothes “all over the floor,”
(I don’t leave and personal belongings on the floor especially in my massage space)
– now it’s their clothes “on the floor,”
(Is that where they decided to place them? Even though it was previously mentioned witnessing so much dog fur everywhere?)
I have tables and desks and chairs in all my spaces that client lay there belonging on. The floor is a bizarre choice.
At this point, it’s clear they’re rewriting the experience to fit whatever point they are trying to make. I’m not giving that energy any more of my time.
I wish you them well, but no I’m definitely not interested in meeting again.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in True_LMT
I was notified about this post, so let me clear this up, because some people love making wild accusations whenever their own lack of communication or basic social skills gets exposed.
Just like “Project X” above, the meth head I walked out on after arriving for a massage and he tried to turn it into a party while literally blowing meth in my face. Some guys love to smear providers when they don’t get their way. It’s tired at this point.
First: Thompson and I haven’t been together for over two years. I don’t know what his space looks like now, and I can’t speak for him.
Second: I’ve been traveling Central and South America for the last nine months. Outside of this work (which I do enjoy with the right clientele), I’m a master professional scuba diver, and I’m starting school again in January as I continue toward my PhD. I wanted to adventure before classes resume.
Third: Before returning to Chicago, I went to Atlanta to collect my dog, who barely sheds.
And while I don’t have my old private massage studio anymore (where my dog never set foot), I now see select clients in my new residence, and if you look at my X or Bluesky, where I make video collaborations only with content creators, it’s very obvious I work in an extremely clean, controlled space, on a professional table, with an incredible view.
Some of you are wild and hate being called out for your own behavior. When you get checked, you sprint to forums like this out of spite. Predictable.
“Afraid for your safety”?
If you’re talking about Thompson, that’s hilarious. He is literally the most non-confrontational person alive.
Me? If you’re a decent human being, you get my full respect.
If you act like a twat, by text or in person, I’m not shy about calling out disgusting behavior. Most of these so-called “experiences” people complain about boil down to who THEY are as a person.
And “Beefy dude” not sure how my prices are “all over the place” when they are written clearly on my profile:
$150 therapeutic
$200 sensual
$300 erotic
Now, when someone texts me asking for things far beyond what I offer, and yes, people really do send messages like “slap me, cum in my face, and shit on my bed” I shut that down. Sometimes with “sure, $3000 upfront” just to make the nonsense disappear.
Then suddenly I’m “inconsistent”? Right.
Take accountability.
Communicate like an adult.
Stop projecting your own mess onto providers who are being clear about what they do and don’t offer.
And lastly, I don’t discriminate based on looks. I go by energy and kindness. Yes, I’ve said I like white haired older men before, but the ones who truly get the best of my time and energy are the decent, genuine, respectful ones.
That really shouldn’t be that hard to grasp.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from lilbyte in True_LMT
I was notified about this post, so let me clear this up, because some people love making wild accusations whenever their own lack of communication or basic social skills gets exposed.
Just like “Project X” above, the meth head I walked out on after arriving for a massage and he tried to turn it into a party while literally blowing meth in my face. Some guys love to smear providers when they don’t get their way. It’s tired at this point.
First: Thompson and I haven’t been together for over two years. I don’t know what his space looks like now, and I can’t speak for him.
Second: I’ve been traveling Central and South America for the last nine months. Outside of this work (which I do enjoy with the right clientele), I’m a master professional scuba diver, and I’m starting school again in January as I continue toward my PhD. I wanted to adventure before classes resume.
Third: Before returning to Chicago, I went to Atlanta to collect my dog, who barely sheds.
And while I don’t have my old private massage studio anymore (where my dog never set foot), I now see select clients in my new residence, and if you look at my X or Bluesky, where I make video collaborations only with content creators, it’s very obvious I work in an extremely clean, controlled space, on a professional table, with an incredible view.
Some of you are wild and hate being called out for your own behavior. When you get checked, you sprint to forums like this out of spite. Predictable.
“Afraid for your safety”?
If you’re talking about Thompson, that’s hilarious. He is literally the most non-confrontational person alive.
Me? If you’re a decent human being, you get my full respect.
If you act like a twat, by text or in person, I’m not shy about calling out disgusting behavior. Most of these so-called “experiences” people complain about boil down to who THEY are as a person.
And “Beefy dude” not sure how my prices are “all over the place” when they are written clearly on my profile:
$150 therapeutic
$200 sensual
$300 erotic
Now, when someone texts me asking for things far beyond what I offer, and yes, people really do send messages like “slap me, cum in my face, and shit on my bed” I shut that down. Sometimes with “sure, $3000 upfront” just to make the nonsense disappear.
Then suddenly I’m “inconsistent”? Right.
Take accountability.
Communicate like an adult.
Stop projecting your own mess onto providers who are being clear about what they do and don’t offer.
And lastly, I don’t discriminate based on looks. I go by energy and kindness. Yes, I’ve said I like white haired older men before, but the ones who truly get the best of my time and energy are the decent, genuine, respectful ones.
That really shouldn’t be that hard to grasp.
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LewisLMT reacted to d.anders in True_LMT
Judging by what you read on this board, it seems there is a percentage of messed-up customers. Perhaps it's the nature of the beast. Some gay men don't know how to behave. It's a shame, because the bad apples tend to spoil everything for everyone else.
Thank you Lewis for having the courage to post here. I loved reading what you had you to say.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from Zimby in True_LMT
I was notified about this post, so let me clear this up, because some people love making wild accusations whenever their own lack of communication or basic social skills gets exposed.
Just like “Project X” above, the meth head I walked out on after arriving for a massage and he tried to turn it into a party while literally blowing meth in my face. Some guys love to smear providers when they don’t get their way. It’s tired at this point.
First: Thompson and I haven’t been together for over two years. I don’t know what his space looks like now, and I can’t speak for him.
Second: I’ve been traveling Central and South America for the last nine months. Outside of this work (which I do enjoy with the right clientele), I’m a master professional scuba diver, and I’m starting school again in January as I continue toward my PhD. I wanted to adventure before classes resume.
Third: Before returning to Chicago, I went to Atlanta to collect my dog, who barely sheds.
And while I don’t have my old private massage studio anymore (where my dog never set foot), I now see select clients in my new residence, and if you look at my X or Bluesky, where I make video collaborations only with content creators, it’s very obvious I work in an extremely clean, controlled space, on a professional table, with an incredible view.
Some of you are wild and hate being called out for your own behavior. When you get checked, you sprint to forums like this out of spite. Predictable.
“Afraid for your safety”?
If you’re talking about Thompson, that’s hilarious. He is literally the most non-confrontational person alive.
Me? If you’re a decent human being, you get my full respect.
If you act like a twat, by text or in person, I’m not shy about calling out disgusting behavior. Most of these so-called “experiences” people complain about boil down to who THEY are as a person.
And “Beefy dude” not sure how my prices are “all over the place” when they are written clearly on my profile:
$150 therapeutic
$200 sensual
$300 erotic
Now, when someone texts me asking for things far beyond what I offer, and yes, people really do send messages like “slap me, cum in my face, and shit on my bed” I shut that down. Sometimes with “sure, $3000 upfront” just to make the nonsense disappear.
Then suddenly I’m “inconsistent”? Right.
Take accountability.
Communicate like an adult.
Stop projecting your own mess onto providers who are being clear about what they do and don’t offer.
And lastly, I don’t discriminate based on looks. I go by energy and kindness. Yes, I’ve said I like white haired older men before, but the ones who truly get the best of my time and energy are the decent, genuine, respectful ones.
That really shouldn’t be that hard to grasp.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from + claym in True_LMT
I was notified about this post, so let me clear this up, because some people love making wild accusations whenever their own lack of communication or basic social skills gets exposed.
Just like “Project X” above, the meth head I walked out on after arriving for a massage and he tried to turn it into a party while literally blowing meth in my face. Some guys love to smear providers when they don’t get their way. It’s tired at this point.
First: Thompson and I haven’t been together for over two years. I don’t know what his space looks like now, and I can’t speak for him.
Second: I’ve been traveling Central and South America for the last nine months. Outside of this work (which I do enjoy with the right clientele), I’m a master professional scuba diver, and I’m starting school again in January as I continue toward my PhD. I wanted to adventure before classes resume.
Third: Before returning to Chicago, I went to Atlanta to collect my dog, who barely sheds.
And while I don’t have my old private massage studio anymore (where my dog never set foot), I now see select clients in my new residence, and if you look at my X or Bluesky, where I make video collaborations only with content creators, it’s very obvious I work in an extremely clean, controlled space, on a professional table, with an incredible view.
Some of you are wild and hate being called out for your own behavior. When you get checked, you sprint to forums like this out of spite. Predictable.
“Afraid for your safety”?
If you’re talking about Thompson, that’s hilarious. He is literally the most non-confrontational person alive.
Me? If you’re a decent human being, you get my full respect.
If you act like a twat, by text or in person, I’m not shy about calling out disgusting behavior. Most of these so-called “experiences” people complain about boil down to who THEY are as a person.
And “Beefy dude” not sure how my prices are “all over the place” when they are written clearly on my profile:
$150 therapeutic
$200 sensual
$300 erotic
Now, when someone texts me asking for things far beyond what I offer, and yes, people really do send messages like “slap me, cum in my face, and shit on my bed” I shut that down. Sometimes with “sure, $3000 upfront” just to make the nonsense disappear.
Then suddenly I’m “inconsistent”? Right.
Take accountability.
Communicate like an adult.
Stop projecting your own mess onto providers who are being clear about what they do and don’t offer.
And lastly, I don’t discriminate based on looks. I go by energy and kindness. Yes, I’ve said I like white haired older men before, but the ones who truly get the best of my time and energy are the decent, genuine, respectful ones.
That really shouldn’t be that hard to grasp.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from + poolboy48220 in True_LMT
I was notified about this post, so let me clear this up, because some people love making wild accusations whenever their own lack of communication or basic social skills gets exposed.
Just like “Project X” above, the meth head I walked out on after arriving for a massage and he tried to turn it into a party while literally blowing meth in my face. Some guys love to smear providers when they don’t get their way. It’s tired at this point.
First: Thompson and I haven’t been together for over two years. I don’t know what his space looks like now, and I can’t speak for him.
Second: I’ve been traveling Central and South America for the last nine months. Outside of this work (which I do enjoy with the right clientele), I’m a master professional scuba diver, and I’m starting school again in January as I continue toward my PhD. I wanted to adventure before classes resume.
Third: Before returning to Chicago, I went to Atlanta to collect my dog, who barely sheds.
And while I don’t have my old private massage studio anymore (where my dog never set foot), I now see select clients in my new residence, and if you look at my X or Bluesky, where I make video collaborations only with content creators, it’s very obvious I work in an extremely clean, controlled space, on a professional table, with an incredible view.
Some of you are wild and hate being called out for your own behavior. When you get checked, you sprint to forums like this out of spite. Predictable.
“Afraid for your safety”?
If you’re talking about Thompson, that’s hilarious. He is literally the most non-confrontational person alive.
Me? If you’re a decent human being, you get my full respect.
If you act like a twat, by text or in person, I’m not shy about calling out disgusting behavior. Most of these so-called “experiences” people complain about boil down to who THEY are as a person.
And “Beefy dude” not sure how my prices are “all over the place” when they are written clearly on my profile:
$150 therapeutic
$200 sensual
$300 erotic
Now, when someone texts me asking for things far beyond what I offer, and yes, people really do send messages like “slap me, cum in my face, and shit on my bed” I shut that down. Sometimes with “sure, $3000 upfront” just to make the nonsense disappear.
Then suddenly I’m “inconsistent”? Right.
Take accountability.
Communicate like an adult.
Stop projecting your own mess onto providers who are being clear about what they do and don’t offer.
And lastly, I don’t discriminate based on looks. I go by energy and kindness. Yes, I’ve said I like white haired older men before, but the ones who truly get the best of my time and energy are the decent, genuine, respectful ones.
That really shouldn’t be that hard to grasp.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from ManTouch in True_LMT
I was notified about this post, so let me clear this up, because some people love making wild accusations whenever their own lack of communication or basic social skills gets exposed.
Just like “Project X” above, the meth head I walked out on after arriving for a massage and he tried to turn it into a party while literally blowing meth in my face. Some guys love to smear providers when they don’t get their way. It’s tired at this point.
First: Thompson and I haven’t been together for over two years. I don’t know what his space looks like now, and I can’t speak for him.
Second: I’ve been traveling Central and South America for the last nine months. Outside of this work (which I do enjoy with the right clientele), I’m a master professional scuba diver, and I’m starting school again in January as I continue toward my PhD. I wanted to adventure before classes resume.
Third: Before returning to Chicago, I went to Atlanta to collect my dog, who barely sheds.
And while I don’t have my old private massage studio anymore (where my dog never set foot), I now see select clients in my new residence, and if you look at my X or Bluesky, where I make video collaborations only with content creators, it’s very obvious I work in an extremely clean, controlled space, on a professional table, with an incredible view.
Some of you are wild and hate being called out for your own behavior. When you get checked, you sprint to forums like this out of spite. Predictable.
“Afraid for your safety”?
If you’re talking about Thompson, that’s hilarious. He is literally the most non-confrontational person alive.
Me? If you’re a decent human being, you get my full respect.
If you act like a twat, by text or in person, I’m not shy about calling out disgusting behavior. Most of these so-called “experiences” people complain about boil down to who THEY are as a person.
And “Beefy dude” not sure how my prices are “all over the place” when they are written clearly on my profile:
$150 therapeutic
$200 sensual
$300 erotic
Now, when someone texts me asking for things far beyond what I offer, and yes, people really do send messages like “slap me, cum in my face, and shit on my bed” I shut that down. Sometimes with “sure, $3000 upfront” just to make the nonsense disappear.
Then suddenly I’m “inconsistent”? Right.
Take accountability.
Communicate like an adult.
Stop projecting your own mess onto providers who are being clear about what they do and don’t offer.
And lastly, I don’t discriminate based on looks. I go by energy and kindness. Yes, I’ve said I like white haired older men before, but the ones who truly get the best of my time and energy are the decent, genuine, respectful ones.
That really shouldn’t be that hard to grasp.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from + FrankR in True_LMT
I was notified about this post, so let me clear this up, because some people love making wild accusations whenever their own lack of communication or basic social skills gets exposed.
Just like “Project X” above, the meth head I walked out on after arriving for a massage and he tried to turn it into a party while literally blowing meth in my face. Some guys love to smear providers when they don’t get their way. It’s tired at this point.
First: Thompson and I haven’t been together for over two years. I don’t know what his space looks like now, and I can’t speak for him.
Second: I’ve been traveling Central and South America for the last nine months. Outside of this work (which I do enjoy with the right clientele), I’m a master professional scuba diver, and I’m starting school again in January as I continue toward my PhD. I wanted to adventure before classes resume.
Third: Before returning to Chicago, I went to Atlanta to collect my dog, who barely sheds.
And while I don’t have my old private massage studio anymore (where my dog never set foot), I now see select clients in my new residence, and if you look at my X or Bluesky, where I make video collaborations only with content creators, it’s very obvious I work in an extremely clean, controlled space, on a professional table, with an incredible view.
Some of you are wild and hate being called out for your own behavior. When you get checked, you sprint to forums like this out of spite. Predictable.
“Afraid for your safety”?
If you’re talking about Thompson, that’s hilarious. He is literally the most non-confrontational person alive.
Me? If you’re a decent human being, you get my full respect.
If you act like a twat, by text or in person, I’m not shy about calling out disgusting behavior. Most of these so-called “experiences” people complain about boil down to who THEY are as a person.
And “Beefy dude” not sure how my prices are “all over the place” when they are written clearly on my profile:
$150 therapeutic
$200 sensual
$300 erotic
Now, when someone texts me asking for things far beyond what I offer, and yes, people really do send messages like “slap me, cum in my face, and shit on my bed” I shut that down. Sometimes with “sure, $3000 upfront” just to make the nonsense disappear.
Then suddenly I’m “inconsistent”? Right.
Take accountability.
Communicate like an adult.
Stop projecting your own mess onto providers who are being clear about what they do and don’t offer.
And lastly, I don’t discriminate based on looks. I go by energy and kindness. Yes, I’ve said I like white haired older men before, but the ones who truly get the best of my time and energy are the decent, genuine, respectful ones.
That really shouldn’t be that hard to grasp.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from BeefyDude in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
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I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from Penn7 in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
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I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from Pygian in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
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I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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LewisLMT reacted to + glennnnn in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
What an Interesting Educational and calm discussion. I, for one, will be a better patient and Client Because I read through all of the passages above. Thank you To all who contributed.
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LewisLMT reacted to + claym in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
I feared that this discussion had trailed off and am glad it has not. Thank you Lewisuc for not letting a bump in the road derail you.
I can say this discussion allowed me to have a private discussion with Lewisuc where I felt respected by him and I believe he did of me. I am impressed by the amount of time and care Lewisuc has put into his participation here. It surely has provided me a more personal connection and sense of who he is for time spent in the future.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from + claym in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
......
I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from chiguyedge in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
......
I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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LewisLMT reacted to Zimby in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
Maybe there was just a little confusion on the type of facial they were hoping for? LOL
In all honesty., I for one really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to show "the other side" of this industry. As in ANY part of the service industry, you simply cannot make every client happy. I for one really appreciate clear boundaries because it allows the client to enjoy the massage rather than being in their head about what may happen.
Its funny that with an escort, an hour of time is considered just that, an hour of time... but a 60 minute massage session has some clients expecting 60 minutes of table time without any time to greet, undress, clean up and get dressed to end the session.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from Hot4latin in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
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I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from Zimby in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
......
I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from + MikeThomas in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
......
I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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LewisLMT got a reaction from ketut in 411 on Lewisuc in Chicago
NO ONE PERSONAL NAMES OR DETAILS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. I AM LEWIS_LMT AND I AM REPLYING TO A THREAD ABOUT ME. THANK YOU.
Thank you to many members who reached out who enjoyed my post when it was originally posted. Happy to keep conversations going with different subject matter in other forums.
......
I guess it’s time I enter the chat. For a while, I’ve had clients and peers notify me of this website, and I’ve never paid much attention to it. Many of the comments and postings that I’ve come to privy to (through a client usually) I’ve laughed about.
Example, I’ve read a guy ranting about me because I politely declined wanting my photos taken by an amateur. We had never met. Yet he created a post commenting on my character? Funnily enough, members on the forum called him out on his ridiculousness.
Another recent posting, a mentally unstable Meth user calls me “dense”. How do I know that posting was from the meth user who lit up in front of me at his place? (1) I journal all my encounters (2) No one has ever called me dense in person, then it appearing shortly on a forum to discredit my character. I said no to this encounter, leaving uncomfortable and hastily. Yet I'm discredited because I way extremely uncomfortable....
What I usually take from this website is that some of these client postings/experiences are not at all accurate and, in a small way, for them to mischaracterize a provider and try to discredit them? To me, that always speaks more about the client. But on the other hand, there is no way for other readers to understand the truth.
I'm lucky in the fact that I have a long list of clientele who know me for who I am. My clients outside of this particular world always come first. Hence why it can be difficult to reach me. I would much rather work on one of my oncology clients, my rehabilitation clients, my PT or Chiro client referrals, or my aesthetic clients at my private studio, than take an erotic session. Why? Because I get more satisfaction from my therapeutic work, and I don’t have to deal with a huge portion of flakes, drug users, time wasters, weirdos. Why do I continue to advertise on RM? Because extra income comes in handy when I’m actually available.
Always, I give what I receive. You will read my communication is short on this thread. Correct. Those who communicate with “sup”, “hey”, “what’s up” with no other communication, I just don’t respond. If you are contacting a provider and incapable of basic communication to set an appointment up for yourself, it's not worth my time.
I think what clients have to understand is, you are one person communicating with one person. As a provider, I am one person communicating with 50 on a daily basis. It’s more productive for both to get to the point.
Providers are not also there to sex talk and take up too much time communicating back and forth for it to get nowhere. Time is money. You’ve not paid…yet.
The many, many clients out there who I've enjoyed my time with usually contact like so: “Hi, my name is ….. I’m very interested in booking time with you. I’m looking for XYZ this coming Thursday at 8 pm, would you be available?” This type of communication gets my attention and usually ends up being a very successful encounter.
I just got back to Chicago. I snowbird in the winter. Today I decided (because I have the time and I was notified again of a posting on my name), that I would respond on this thread. And give a better understanding of some of the recent comments made.
In the last 5 days, Ive taken a few RM clients. A few were regular clients. @Umichdude93 would be a new client and the newest posting here.
@Umichdude93 has contacted me twice before. I never delete my messages. It’s also how I keep track of past events. They have scheduled twice before. No-showed twice before. Costing me time and money. When looking up their info, I see I am not the only provider this client does this to. This encounter I played with him, just like this client has played in the past. You receive what you give. When I realize he actually showed. Third time's a charm, I guess. I met them. They asked for an erotic massage. (Nude, mutual touch, release is what I offer) He didn't want what he booked. I told them, I explained my services and costs. They said okay. He got what he wanted, he paid, he left. It was short.
This is me personally. If you are booking a massage and I’ve given you my rate, that’s what the service will be.
If you want something else, it's going to cost differently. I communicate this every time.
Expectations should always be met, I do not wish to feel uncomfortable. Therefore we’ve usually had good communication about our session and are aware of the expectations, plus a price has been agreed to.
Do not come into a service without full communication of what you are wanting/expecting. Don’t be sneaky in thinking you’re going to get something if we have not discussed it. You will leave disappointed.
I've had many clients I’ve stopped and said “hey if you want to changed what we have spoken about, these are my rates” given them my rate, and they have declined, and we have continued respectfully.
Have there been times where I’m personally into the guy (I do like grey-haired older men) and will hookup for fun outside of my massage service? Yes, but that is my choice.
A few others I wish to reply back to on this thread to clear a few things up.
@questbear I remember our time together, also date and time (I journal). Appreciate the compliment. I did not short you on time. You had a left rotator cuff issue. I spent time therapeutically working that shoulder for you. You were a very nice person. You did, without asking, put your mouth around below. Because you were very sweet, I did let it slide. I didn’t charge you extras or stop you. Again, that was my choice to let it happen. At the end of a service, I leave 10 min for you to release. You released very quickly. You went to the bathroom to clean up. I too went to the bathroom to wash my hands. When coming back out of the bathroom. You were half dressed. Yes, there was 5 min left on the clock… but I wouldn’t say I shorted you on time. That is a mis representation of the session.
@DC Otter You are one of those clients with beautiful communication and a very, very nice human in person. I thoroughly enjoyed our experience. Price correct and all expectations met/fulfilled.
@Chads I’m 5’7 Had a great session with you also. Thank you
@MassageDrew - Thanks for booking a therapeutic massage. You did indeed miss the details in booking online on my professional account.
At that time, booking a 60 min massage the title was called - **$125 - 60 mins Heal, Repair & Rehabilitation**
The description being - “This is NOT a full body massage. This massage is for injuries, healing and rehabilitation. If you are currently seeing a PT or Chiropractor, this is your massage. We will thoroughly work on the areas that need your most attention.”
Secondly, during the covid19 mask mandate, I offered all my clients to go maskless. Your head being in a headrest with a mask on is uncomfortable. I took my mask off while my clients were face down. When face up and working on face, neck and shoulders, my mask would go on. I think that’s considerate and thoughtful considering the climate at that time and me seeing multiple clients a day.
Thirdly, Thai massage is a lot more physically demanding and way more than “stretching”. It takes a further toll on the therapist's body and it is an advanced skilled technique that required further paid training hours after school and state board exams. Therefore, these massages are always charged at a higher rate. If you check out spas nationally, you will find that massages based on skill levels are at different rates. A Swedish will never be the same rate as a deep tissue or Thai.
@Jayson03The same as @MassageDrew, you also booked online via a professional website. You booked a COMBO Massage/Facial.
Firstly, the facial is always after the massage. I would never do a full facial and then flip you over face down in a headrest. That's bizarre!
Secondly, It stated in the description of the COMBO service - “Massage 60 mins, NOT a full body massage. We will focus on a couple of problematic areas. (Which we did) Facial 60 mins. Depending on your extractions facial can extend more than 60 mins, time will be taken from massage time”
Thirdly, tantric massage was advertised because I was getting a lot of requests. Therefore, I advertised it. Not due to a low customer return rate. Thank you.
@dctraveler His massage was not cut short. He got exactly what he booked and paid for. Yes, doing a combo service or any service is very physically demanding. Thank you for understanding that. Jayson03 did not read what he booked.
Hopefully this post gives more clarity to this thread. Appreciate you reading.
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