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I'm skeptical it's not from the provider. The user received it from Froy's number and is a past client. That suggests it really is from the provider and not the usual bulk-scam message. Whether this is an honest mistake of mistaken identity on Froy's part or a deliberate extortion scam could be up for debate... my guess is that the provider made a mistake here in response to a real chargeback from someone else and is not realizing the error. Edited to add: OP, I re-read the final message you received from him and it's not clear to me whether he realized the mistake or not. He could be saying, "oh, so it's not you..." with an offhand comment about having video and electronic records. Or he could be implying that he still think it's you but won't contact you at your number anymore. Hard to say. My guess is probably the former.

He stole money from you. Most people aren't lucky enough to get such a useful red flag before even meeting. I wouldn't even consider getting in touch with him.

Can we please respect providers' privacy? Posting their birthdate and city of birth seems way too invasive to me. It sucks that those websites exist that seek to identify porn performers by their real name and other personal details like those that were posted above. I guarantee you that these individuals don't want those details out there. A lot of that info is extracted by using facial recognition software and people-search websites. It's not cool and I hope CoM can at least come to an agreement on respecting these details that should be private.

Nice guy. Totally straight vibes, if that matters.

The book even covers dildos! (If I remember correctly, it suggests keeping only your favorite one.)

As with all human endeavors, grace, empathy, and compassion are requisites for true connection. Lex has shown grace in his responses and frankly I would feel even better about hiring him based on his responses here. I can empathize with being in a situation without the capacity or ability to proactively follow up on engagements, even with access to my phone, as I have been in that situation myself recently for the first time ever. It happens and if it hasn't happened to you yet, it will. Privacy should be respected without demanding and judging all the granular details.

I'm curious about this from both a USA perspective and non-USA perspective. In the US it seems like Miami and NYC top the list. Any other honorable mentions? I'm in California. There are not many options in SF, and even LA seems to have fewer than would be expected. And what about internationally? Not necessarily asking just about competitive bodybuilders... just places where one might find the highest concentration of big muscle.

I think I misinterpreted Garik's ad. When he says "Available for outcalls in San Francisco" I took that to mean he doesn't do incalls. But posts here mention incalls. So maybe he's just saying he won't do outcalls outside of SF. I'd still like to meet up with him someday. Maybe I'll try scheduling an incall sometime. I'm wondering if the no response I got previously was due to an admittedly difficult outcall location (still in SF).

I've pondered this situation a lot. There aren't many good options. I imagine many providers are uninsured. Some may be lucky enough to have a partner whose employer plan they can hop on. Otherwise you're pretty much left to the individual market, and ACA subsidies are decreasing while premiums are also increasing for other reasons too. Wouldn't recommend the uninsured route... that might work until it doesn't, painfully, all of a sudden.

I especially like doing this after muscle worship. There's something about using my hands to worship his body followed by using my hands to get him off.

Anyone else enjoy this as a "main event"? Whether edging/milking a provider or mutual JO. Oftentimes that's all I really want but I don't see it discussed much here.

Depending on the answer (which I don't know), I would suggest this might be best answered over Private Message since this guy has a legit licensed business with its physical presence in a high-rent, persnickety city. Like the site says in this sub-forum:

Well, at least it's not just me 🫤. I never tried to schedule with him again after the no-response. Sorry you had to the same issue.

I've never really had concerns with hotel outcalls. It just seemed to me that hotel incalls (clients going to the provider's hotel) have the potential to invite more scrutiny from hotel staff/security.

This is something I've been curious about for a while. How do providers (particularly masseurs, who are seeing more clients than escorts) stay under the radar when taking clients at a hotel? Especially higher end ones with secure elevators and 24/7 security staff in the lobby? Say a provider is staying at a hotel for a week or two. Surely the staff will notice him meeting men in the lobby multiple times daily and they would figure out the score quickly. He would also be going through a lot of towels... Do hotels really not care? A masseur recently came through my area and I thought his choice of hotel was odd because he was staying in a swanky suite in an already expensive hotel. That would take a lot of massages to break even. And I thought that kind of volume would probably attract attention.