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10 minutes ago, LookingAround said:

I’m over 65 and to act as though I have no control over my body is absurd. I completely reject this.

I don't act as though I have no control. I do my best to project normalcy. But I know the truth. I am diabetic, and Metformin fucks with your digestive system in a horrendous way. For awhile I was in denial, but those years are behind me. I would love to reject my truth, but life doesn't work that way.

(I wish I knew how to edit.)

I should also add, I've never farted on the massage table, because I was able to clench my buttocks tight enough. The experience of having to fart was not enjoyable, and I'm sure the masseur could tell I was trying to avoid a release. He could feel my body tense up. I haven't had a massage since before Covid, so I'm dreadfully afraid to get on the table now. My clenching is no longer possible, so if my body wants to release gas, I won't be able to say no. What are we aging customers supposed to do? End our love of massage? Keep our money to ourselves?

One fart is not the end of the world. I imagine farting is discussed in the massage training classes. Yes, serious massage therapists do sign up for this. No reasonable human being can control all aspects of the human body, especially when you are naked and lying down, and someone is applying deep pressure all over your body. Give me a break.

23 minutes ago, relax man said:

If you have time to casually announce that you’re going to cut the stilton, you have time to get up and use the restroom.

I totally disagree. The mere act of "getting up" from the table could cause a sudden release, making the trip to the bathroom a precious waste of time. Furthermore, who on earth wants to jump off his table once his body is in the massage zone to take a bathroom break simply to release gas? I'm sorry, but after I turned 50, my body does things I never imagined it could. I'm sure the medications I now take are partly to blame, since I consider myself to be a healthy eater. The bottom line is I have control over almost nothing. Some days are great, while others are awful. If only I could schedule a no-fart day. Ridiculous to call this inconsiderate and nasty.

I can't believe anyone looking for hair removal services is interested in sex at the same time. I know electric clippers is a sexual fetish for some, but I've never heard of a professional hair business in nyc (or anywhere), which requires a State-issued operating license, to offer sexual services on the side or DL. Everyone knows such an offer is illegal, so what American owner would risk losing his business over some horny customer? Odd and dangerous request.

That said, I am interested in some hair removal, the no-sex kind. I think I would like to have electrolysis on my butt crack. I don't have a lot of body hair, but for some reason, I'm prone to ingrown hairs around my backside, and they usually occur if I let my body hair grow out long, like months after I have shaved. I used to shave myself, but I can no longer do a great job on my butt. I might love someone doing that for me.

I've had ingrown hairs before that required surgery, which is not fun. It's always a danger, whether you shave or not. Thankfully, none were near my groin. So shaving and other forms of removal do concern me. That's why I've been researching permanent hair removal. Years ago, I had an escort who had electrolysis on his balls and ass, and I thought the results were amazing. I know the service is time consuming and expensive. Has anyone on this board experienced this service? Any recommendations for the nyc area? Thanks. Maybe I need to start a new thread.

10 hours ago, relax man said:

You nasty.  You nasty and you lazy.

Fart shaming among gay men? Seriously? Show me a man who says he doesn't fart, and I'll show you a liar. Does anyone truly believe all their farts can be controlled? Delusional. Passing gas during a massage is about as natural as your nose stuffing up or running, or something unknown dripping from your cock. A good massage forces your body to release things. I have to believe 99.9% of men who actually get massage know the pain of trying to hold one in during a massage. I'm not suggesting anyone should have a Mexican lunch before their massage appointment. There are some things you can do to limit excessive gas, but there are no 100% guarantees. If there is a masseur who can't tolerate gas release during a massage, then I would suggest he find another career. Such ridiculousness is like entering a hospital and forbiding the smell of alcohol, or feces. Get real.

15 minutes ago, Lewis H said:

"New clients, be active, fit, and hygienic."

I would take that to mean no over-weight men.

I'm surprised no reviews. Ad says he's been doing massage for 10 years. I could do without the tattoos, but I like his laid back sexy natural body look. Can anyone speak about his massage talent?

10 minutes ago, FrankR said:

The world isnt a black and white place - its shades of gray and all colors of the rainbow.

I certainly wasn't advocating for Ken to fail. Just expressing my opinion about sensual massage for the gay male customer. If others are happy with Ken's clothed service, by all means he should be praised and supported for a great massage.

On 1/7/2024 at 11:22 AM, EVdude said:

happily reunited

Well, if he didn't get naked for an old-timer regular, what are the chances he'll get naked with any one of us? I just don't get it. Most gay men want to be naked with another man during massage, and they will pay a premium for that fantasy wish. I get the disdain for the serial gropers, but I never touch unless invited. Am I alone in this? The visual of naked by itself is worth a higher price for me. If he smothers my face with his groin and butt, then we hit a home-run. But to keep your clothes on while you service a golden unicorn? What a bummer. Thanks EV for the update. Very helpful.

On 1/7/2024 at 12:22 PM, MoshYeru said:

Hi. Bumped into this ad on Craigslist. Has anyone heard of them?

Body relaxation by men in Queens - beauty services - craigslist

NEWYORK.CRAIGSLIST.ORG

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Ciao Private studio. Professional males giving deep tissue and Swedish to help you rejuvenate...

No easy way to get there by public transportation. I wonder how a business like this can survive?

On 1/3/2024 at 10:08 AM, Unonymous30xxx said:

Those prices are HIGH for spa

Looks like prices have changed on the M&J website. $100 for 90 minute massage is a bargain, especially if the massage is good. Can't say much about the stock photos. Has anyone had their pubic hair shaved at one of these places? I should probably start a new topic?

He'll be in NYC soon. He lives in London but is traveling. He is not traveling with a table. Has anyone experienced his bed massage?

1 hour ago, Kosmo said:

He's short and compact, young, has a nice, taut physique and a handsome, clean-shaven face. Really polite.

Lovely. But what is his background? Is he Asian? Latino? Mexican? Texan? Cut or uncut? Flirtatious? Generous with his assets? Thank you. (Clean shaven and polite does nothing for my richter. 😄)

6 minutes ago, musclestuduws said:

You mean one shouldn’t expect to find the guys in the photos at the spa?

No, I didn't mean that. What a wonderful world it could be if we could visit a gay men's spa website and choose our masseur with the help of a photo. Not in my lifetime. However, if you're trying to attract gay men (or any man) to a spa experience, you can certainly do better than what Shangrila offers. The website is little more than a Yellow pages listing. LOL. (PS  I guess it could be worse. The pages could offer naked women in the photos, the generic kind.)

That website is a joke.

On 1/1/2024 at 11:13 AM, CheckCar said:

Love the slow sensuality of this one:

https://www.xvideos.com/video78737079/eddie_danger_gets_a_happy_ending_massage

 

The masseur here really knows what he is doing. I wouldn't call this a deep sports massage, but it comes very close. I love when a bearded guy teases the skin around my butt hole with his beard. Even better, when he enjoys rimming. This guy's technique of rimming, while caressing the rest of the body, is the mark of a serious pleasure-providing therapist. Loved this video as a true sensual massage example.

I get the attractive price, but I can't see anything else in his ad that arouses curiosity let alone action. I'm baffled on this one.

Am I the only one who watches Kale's underwear try-ons on YouTube? I am so hot for this guy.

He has a ton of social media links at

K A L E (12 links)

ALLMYLINKS.COM

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Self Proclaimed Model

His profile on PornHub says he is into men and women. Has anyone here ever been with him? I sure wish he did massage. I'd be there in a heartbeat. Damn sexy, and seems incredibly sweet. Is he for real?

He's got a great smile, but those legs. OMG. Killers. Not sure I would want to get my head stuck between those. His package seems huge. My jaw hurts just looking at it. Would love to know if he's talented at massage.

On 11/13/2023 at 7:20 PM, Rod Hagen said:

how the heck could Roy Cohen have done that to his own people?  How?

Cohn was drowning in hate, being a vain gay and Jewish in the 50's, with an ugly scar running down his nose. A Shakespearean character of his own making, especially after he was awarded power and fame from the Rosenberg trial at the age of 24. The self-hatred among gays in the 50's is what struck me in this story. The closet was a very ugly, Hell-ish place to live. The fact that Joe McCarthy and his ilk were mostly Catholic was the second most disturbing truth from the series. Unforgivable cruelty and evil, all for the sake of power and fame.

Most young gays today have no clue that our government behaved the way it did in the 50's. Do they teach this stuff in red state schools? Absolutely not. I doubt much of this gets taught in blue state schools. The suicide rate during the McCarthy era was staggering.

As for acting, Jonathan Bailey stood out for me. His character was incredibly layered and complex. Given how he speaks in real life, I thought his acting was amazing.

17 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

He's very, very handsome with a nice deep voice and luscious lips!

You got me. LOL. He's got nice feet, too. I wonder if he would let you lick his pits unshowered? Thanks for posting your experience.

1 hour ago, MmM said:

I don't get masseur vibes from his pics.

I don't either. And the pumped muscle mass doesn't look natural to me, either. I know a lot of guys are into super-pumped muscle, but I'm not one of those.

I also saw him more than a decade ago when he was younger. It was a summer day and he was warm and sweaty, wearing shorts, which worked for me. We did the massage on the floor, where he displayed nimble qualities. After he saw me naked, he advanced quickly to the sensual. There was barely enough time to discern his massage skill, but his touch did not repel me. He turned me onto my back fairly quickly, so I was disappointed in no glute work. I was pretty horny that day, so we did have some fun. He seemed very into playing, and we both ended up satisfied. I don't think he was here for the full hour. I never booked him again. Just goes to show how much I value massage talent over sex.

I remember him being Russian and a small-bodied man. He had a boyish quality about him, which could make his age difficult to guess. I'm sure if he had an intoxicating body odor I would have seen him again, but I don't remember his scent at all. I'm sorry to hear he's behaving like a jerk. Jerk behavior is a surefire way to kill your business.

14 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

clients can’t seem to understand or respect the boundaries between SW and massage. I’ll get on the bed with you if you pay my rates for that. I’m not offering discount SW for a client feigning he only wants a massage and insists on massage pricing and then pressures me into providing a lot more than massage in person.

LOL. It took me a minute to figure out what SW meant. Brain fart. A board like this reminds us that no two clients are alike. The same is true for masseurs. There are a percentage of customers who always want something for nothing. Who doesn't love a freebie or a deal? I'm sure some horny gay guys live a selfish life, and when they book a massage off one of these sites, they most certainly are seeking SW any way they can get it, as cheaply as possible. The masseur has to decide how he wants to handle a customer like this. Do you provide a price list? Do you reject old grabby hands every five seconds? Or do you sit on that gorgeous hard-on and satisfy that bottom urge you've had all day? Speaking honestly, I never booked a massage looking for penetration. I was always prepared for aggressive glute work, but penetration was last on my mind. That is, until I discovered the unspoken desire of some masseurs. Certain masseurs know how to seduce us into spending more money, even if it means a chance increase in tip. The guys who were generous sharing their body smells with me certainly left my apartment richer.

It's a jungle out there, and we all have to figure out a way to navigate. I always believed that good communication was key, but now in these text-only digital days, it's getting more and more difficult to go beyond one or two words, or can't text at all. Sadly, I don't know what the answer is anymore.

2 minutes ago, glutes said:

Some practitioners do know how to make it work.

The yogi guys seem to have incredible flexibility, and can withstand these awkward body positions for lengthy period of times. Many Asian guys can do things with their bodies that I could never do. Squatting comes so easy for many of them. Some of my best bed massages were performed by Asian masseurs. I do miss those days.