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I guess the District Attorney's office ended prosecutions for prostitution and unlicensed massage work back in 2021. That is progress for sex workers. But I don't know the current rules for business licensing and massage. I'd be very surprised if employee nudity was allowed, and if they get caught (or reported), it could risk the operation of their business. Talking about these things openly on the internet has its risks.

Personally, I would love it if nudity was permitted. I imagine some massage therapists enjoy working in the nude, and not have anything to do with sex work. But if nudity is allowed, then sex work will surely follow. If the city has decided to turn a blind eye, then more and more of these business are going to take risks. Could be very fun for us customers.

3 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

I don't want to be a grabby jerk

That's good. Being aggressive and greedy is a surefire way to kill the future. I find gentle, respectful conversation to be very helpful. Guys who are good at massage tend to be sensitive men. They will appreciate you being vulnerable, and they will most likely be honest in return. Asking about escorting is an easy way to get a sense of where he stands. Money can be a great motivator, but some guys won't cross certain boundaries even for that. Whatever you do, don't disrupt what you have. It's very rare, and good things don't last forever.

Both guys have small-ish cocks, but at least Victor shows his face. I could imagine them being very sexy alone or together. But worth $900? Not on my budget.

3 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

Just because erotic isn't highlighted

Maybe he wants to control the messaging. If he lists erotic, he could get a lot of calls wanting that, and maybe he has personal limits that he would prefer to keep quiet about. He has 2 private photos showing semi-erections, but he is fully clothed in both. The photos aren't particularly a turn-on either. Some guys do love a good mystery.

3 hours ago, tsgarp said:

Your loss...

His too. Plus, it hurts him more than it does me.

I'm curious about this guy, too, but what does his face look like? The private photos are no more revealing than the public ones.

I would like to try his talent, but "text only." I don't like masseurfinder because their software does not allow in-house emails. It's a lot easier to communicate privately at rentmasseur, in complete sentences, and most of their guys do respond back, sometimes with special gifts. MF is a fail for me.

2 hours ago, Vanya said:

Formerly he was not against anything, even beyond your imagination.

Well how long can any cute, horny gay male keep that behavior up before it strikes him down cold? Who is paying the doctor bills? If you're in this business because you're enjoying the fun, there comes a point in time when things will need to get real.

Very strange communication with this one. I clicked to see the private images, and he emailed me, "Hey, Let’s talk via text." I wrote back to say I don't own a smartphone, so texting was out for me. He then wrote back, "Where are you?" I wrote back to say Manhattan. He responded with, "Hey, Let’s talk via text."

Moving on.

On 2/22/2024 at 9:28 AM, Saabster said:

Pics 2 and 3 look kind of familiar.

I thought the photo in the white jeans looked familiar, but from way back.

On 2/22/2024 at 11:07 AM, Harryinny said:

Nice body and endowment!

The package is very sexy looking. Seems there is a strong emphasis on the behind, very suggestive. His mouth looks very kissable, if those are his lips. Easy to get a sense that he's very handsome, if one can read between the blur.

[Edit] I've never done a photo search before, but it seems the white jeans shot appears 9-10 times. Some locations are rentmen, but from around the world. Maybe the guy travels a lot. I'm not sure I know what I'm doing with the search function.

On 4/25/2024 at 11:30 AM, koakardred said:

people who actually want to please the client 

Thankfully, there are a fair amount of men who totally enjoy pleasing other men. If pleasing is your fetish, I can't think of a more fun guy to play with and pay for that kind of fun.

14 minutes ago, Typical said:

The photos in the ad have absolutely no connection whatsoever to the person you will meet. None. 

Yes, I won't fall prey. It's good to remind others. Still, to use someone else's photos in a paid ad for paid services takes some serious, arrogant balls. I don't like arrogant people, and I certainly don't want to give them my money. Since it's not easy to sue these fraudsters or get any kind of justice, it's important to expose them every chance one gets.

Furthermore, if you're stupid enough to use photos of a very handsome man, thinking they won't attract fraudulent attention, then you deserve endless ridicule.

1 hour ago, scopitone said:

his phone kept going off (which he had on the bed with him

OMG. Sorry to hear.

13 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

The bad reviews have brought about a name change.

Name change almost always signifies that something is wrong, and it's serious enough to warrant a new identity. It boggles my mind that so many guys do this without thinking, assuming it will improve their situation, and nobody will catch on. Maybe it does improve, for a minute. Just goes to show, totally reinforcing the notion that few in this business take this work seriously. Let's throw spaghetti at the wall and see if this works.

On 3/29/2024 at 8:02 AM, marylander1940 said:

Most escorts don't mind working 7 days a week

Other than massage guys pretending not to be escorts, I don't know much about the escort world. However, I get the impression that most would prefer not working, unless the client is hot, or their type, or very wealthy. Personally, I can't imagine having sex 7 days a week, let alone twice a day with different men, especially with guys I was not attracted to. I would tire of that routine quickly. So I'm not buying this.

1 hour ago, koakardred said:

Are his reviews fake?

I think it would be very difficult for a fraudster to create a boatload of fake reviews. Plus, I think many of the usernames are known individuals. Now may be a good time to try him. Sometimes it takes a little bad word of mouth to motivate. In the service business, it's so easy to fall into a rut. We can all benefit from a jolt every now and again.

3 hours ago, EVdude said:

The requested page can not be found

LOL. I managed to see it this time before it disappeared. Whoever the photos belong to, the guy is hot. But this here now/gone in 5 minutes, I've never seen anything like that before. What a waste of time and money.

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

You seem to be under the impression that everyone needs a degree from a school to have acquired skills.

Obviously, if you're just going to a guy for sex, then perhaps no skill is required. If your sex partner takes an elbow to your back or neck, pretending to know massage, and you end up in an Emergency Room, then the risk responsibility is yours to own.

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

I happen to be a very good cook

If you mishandle food and poison me, I suppose I could sue you if I survive. Living in NYC, I've certainly had my share of salmonella attacks from various restaurants, who are licensed. So, yes, there is risk even among professionals. Life is risky. A lot depends on how much you wish to gamble.

I wouldn't mind playing in bed with John and Peak. I'm sure I'd have a lot of fun. Not sure I would let either massage me.

7 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I've had massages from licensed professionals that weren't very good.

It's true. It happens. But when something goes wrong, and you need to seek medical help, the first question a doctor may ask is "was the guy a professional?" If you say no, the anguished, distorted face the doctor makes may last forever in your mind.

5 hours ago, mcskill said:

When things are off topic, we usually see one person always involved

Excuse me, but weren't you the first poster to claim Andrew is "straight" on this thread? If that bit of very interesting info does not appear in the guy's ad, isn't this info off-topic?

If Andrew is straight, and he works in the nude, providing HE and MT to the gay community, then is he not a novelty? Do novelties not deserve more exploration?

On 4/22/2024 at 9:31 AM, pubic_assistance said:

Peak is a VERY intuitive masseur

Maybe. That doesn't mean he knows what he's doing, or has a professional background in clinical massage work. Intuitive to me means, you see a hard-on, you suck it. IMO, anyone can intuit that.

This is a hit-or-miss business. Very few of these guys are legit, so they don't treat the customer in a professional manner. It's not a realistic expectation. Most of these guys want instant appointments (cash). They don't want to answer questions, or have anything to do with what they call "time wasters." For many, it's just another version of rentmen.com.

I always ask questions, but many don't respond. I've learned to move on quickly. I've learned not to fall in love with a photograph. I'm willing to pay for good service, but good service is difficult to find, sometimes. When you find it, it's a good thing to keep. But it is a needle in a haystack. Good luck.

1 minute ago, pubic_assistance said:

I've been with Peak many times.

Given your prolific presence here, that is quite an endorsement. Both guys appear to be sexy and hot. Sometimes a smaller guy is a pistol, for sure. If they're after full-on sex, why bother with pretend massage? I can't imagine either of these guys is licensed.

On 4/20/2024 at 4:14 PM, Rand said:

Plus it’s New York thing as well.

LOL. None of the straight New Yorkers I know would ever dress like that. I suppose it depends on what you do for a living. Creatives do have more freedom to be metro-sexual, or whatever the woke term is these days.

They both state "negative on Prep" but PeakPleasure's first words in his ad are "Raw pleasure." WTF. What are these guys advertising? Perhaps I'm too old for this game, but some of these young guys seem to live so dangerously, and that scares me. It's also interesting that John is 6' tall, while Peak is only 5'6" (if you can believe the numbers). Unusual coupling.

It's good that he responded to the review that complains about his asking for money upfront. No masseur wants to work for free. It's very painful and violating to be screwed by a customer. Nobody wants to talk about the customers who lie and cheat just to get a service for free, or have one up on a service person, that unspoken power trip. Isn't always one bad apple who spoils it for others?

Judging by all the stat info found elsewhere, looks like this guy doesn't have to worry about the Photoshop naysayers. Although, he shows his beautiful butt in some photos, but not even a white underwear photo to be found anywhere. Nonetheless, he could sit on my face during a massage.

14 hours ago, Capitano said:

Could be a European thing.

That's very true. Thank you. I did not consider that possibility. Re-reading his ad, I could sense someone from another country speaking. European men do the exact opposite of what American "straight" guys do.