Oakman

Among the men who have actually met him, would you say Kyle gives dominant energy? His pics make him look a little shy and reserved. He’s in SF. I’m interested in a meet up 😋

The problem wasn’t his height, it was the several deceptions in the ad.

Who did you try out?

I used to purchase “muscle worship” services, because I like big, strong men. However, these services are often sold with only an implied notion that the client might get off. I would usually hope that things would get sexual, but eventually learned that men who sell these services don’t typically want to fuck. You get to look, maybe touch, and rarely suck. if you expect more than that, be sure to bring that up explicitly. If you’re content just admiring a guy and jerking yourself off, then this might be for you.

Now he is AdonistheVers. It’s never very reassuring to see name changes so frequently. Usually means the guy is a hot mess, yeah?

I had such a bad experience with this guy. I hired him on the fly when another provider duo left me with blueballs and $700 wasted. So I was coming in hot. “Julian” was in flea-bag motel in SF. I got him after he had a night of partying. He wasn’t nearly as fit as his photos. He was also much shorter than me (I’m 5’11”). I needed a top and his performance was brief and unremarkable. I would NEVER hire him again. These are the experiences that taught me to be more clear about expectations and to vet providers more thoroughly.

Clients worrying about their Mr. Number record is kinda silly. Do you need to be liked by everyone so much that you care what some inconsequential person you’ve never met wrote about you based on a disjointed text message exchange? “It’s on my PERMANENT RECORD 😫”

Honestly, a single sentence explanation would help. Why steer clear? What’s up?

I’ve had subsequent text exchanges with him that have left me very doubtful of his sanity or sobriety. I won’t meet him again.

You are making yourself miserable. You could live a life with freedom and authenticity and you are choosing to behave like a tragic character in a melodrama. Start acting like an adult, stop stalking this man. You’re “in love” with him because you need love but you aren’t making yourself available to receive it from sources where it is truly available. Escorts are not a source of love. Period.

1. Decent photos, not necessarily professional, but capable of demonstrating an eye for capturing beauty. Are the photos taken someplace nice or in a meth-garage? Can the guy dress himself without looking like a dope? 2. Muscular body, taller and bigger than me. The fewer tattoos the better. I like a hunky man and masculine features. 3. Big beautiful dick. 4. Ad text needs to demonstrate intelligence. Brevity preferred. Use of the word “luxury” to be avoided. 5. I don’t need to see face. Guys can’t change their face, but they do have control over fitness, aesthetics, and heart, and those choices interest me more. An ugly dude with a bangin’ body is a nice treat for me 😝 6. Conversation skills required for the meetup. I want some demonstration of interest that extends beyond “don’t contact me unless you’re ready to schedule.” I do want to sense the vibe, whether he’s sane, whether we have compatibility, and a few minutes of respectful chat will seal the deal.

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🥵 yes please

Legit question. When I hire, I prefer big-huge dick. I have masochistic tendencies. I want to feel overwhelmed and helpless. And I like connecting with men who get off on watching a guy struggle. I don’t really need to cum in these scenarios, I just want to feel used. I certainly enjoy flipping the scenario too - I’m a “switch.” Sub bottom boys are easy to find free, hung top men seem available to me for hire only. Desires and fetishes are usually rooted in brain wiring (people into smells for instance) and early childhood psychology (stern, abusive fathers producing gay men with “Daddy issues” later in life). I’m often perplexed by the desires of others, but am happy ya’ll are getting your needs met.

I am perplexed by this approach of asking third parties (this forum) what a second party (providers) might do in a given scenario. For this question specifically, the answer seems somewhat obvious. Some providers won’t be into your toy but will pretend to enjoy it. Some providers won’t do it all. Other providers will love it. The best way to find out is to ask the provider you are considering. This group can only speculate (and the conversation spins out to discuss favorite sex toys). Follow up question: are some of you embarrassed to ask providers questions about your sexual desires?

I will only book a provider (talking escort, not massage) if he agrees to cum. That’s a big part of what I want out of the experience.

Jeez. I have spent $400+ for an hour in the past and have never afterwards thought “that was worth it.” I have found that saying “$500? I’ll bet you’re worth it! But that’s out of my budget. Enjoy your stay in SF! 😘” usually gets a response to negotiate a new price.

Sounds like you already know the answer. If he was into you, he wouldn’t be charging you. He’s doing what it takes to keep you hooked and coming back. Adjust your expectations and enjoy it, or stop doing this if you’re apt to fall for a man who isn’t available for the relationship you long for.

I’ve learned from this forum that a lot of gents enjoy the thrill of letting an ambiguously defined massage session unfold, and seeing what services and satisfaction come their way. Personally, I’ve found this to be infuriating and oftentimes disappointing, and I no longer book massage services when what I want is either sex or an orgasm. I book an escort and remove the possibility of ambiguous expectations.

Pro writing tip: long paragraphs make a writer look insane.

No. Are you into having intimate experiences with men who wear masks? It doesn’t sound like this provider understands what the word “penalized“ means. He isn’t entitled to your business. Good for you for knowing what you want, being polite, and not giving into somebody else’s silly manipulation.

I saw this one earlier today too. This guy claims to be 23 years old with a 9 inch dick. There are, however no photos of the dick. Any 23 year-old with a 9 inch dick would not be shy about sharing those photos, which is a pretty good indicator that this is a bullshit profile.

Some people (you?) have a strange addiction to guilt. They give themselves reasons to feel guilty about inconsequential things. Your massage guy keeps booking you. It would seem he’s fine with the rate you are paying. Enjoy your massage and don’t pollute your joy with unnecessary guilt.

Listing as “bottom, top or vers” can actually reduce desirability for vers guys or “switches.” Clients prefer specialization, particularly for expensive purchases. A client looking for a sub bottom is going to prefer providers who focus on that in their ads. In marketing this is the notion that If you want a great steak, you go to a steak house, not a restaurant that also serves steak among other things (even though both steaks may be of equal quality). By omitting position preference, a vers provider leaves that up to the client’s imagination. It takes just a little conversation for a vers provider to figure out which role is needed and then turn that on as if it’s the thing he’s most into.