john1973

Good luck, Drew!

Sorry about the horrible experience. I for one prefer to hire incall service because I’m not comfortable enough to invite strangers to my personal space. As for my wallet, it is always inside a zipped pocket. The only thing that’s easily accessible is his payment inside an envelope. It has his fee and including tip.
 
During warmer weather I usually put my wallet inside my pocket and roll it up after I take them off so the pocket is not readily accessible. It’s not that I don’t trust those I hire but this is not the first time I’m hearing about this situation in this forum. You should seriously tell forum readers his name. It’s may be too late to save your $$$ but you might be saving others from facing the same bad experience.

New listing - Brent in Chicago
 
https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/relaxwithbrent.shtml
 
I haven’t seen him dance at @tmosphere in a while but he’s a go-go boy there. Nice cock.
 
Any info on his massage skills...and any other skills?

Looks like it will happen finally in early March. He's always been the prototype of the man I really love being with plus intelligent smart and funny. When it happens I will post who it is. Don't want to jinx it! Been an admirer of his for about 10 years and never had the right opportunity to meet. Bucket list baby. Lol

Dont worry, Trump will gut those too !

First off, his "cover" picture is probably 15 years and 40 lbs ago.
 
2nd, had it been up to him, the massage would have lasted about 5 minutes. He went for my stuff right away. I might have taken the guy in his picture for a ride, but not the chunky guy I saw.
 
In short, he was kind of a needy mess. Would not repeat or recommend

I am less sensual in the face down stage, but I totally agree with you on the pleasantness of the level playing field that is created if we are both naked. I enjoy an occasional brush while my hands are on the table and if they are hanging down, I may gently stroke the masseur's calf muscle if the position is right. It creates contact, warmth, and intimacy. When face up, things can but don't have to become more sensual if the chemistry is there and things are, again, mutual and the playing field level. I absolutely hate it when the masseur wants to stroke me while unwilling to be naked with me (I call this "American hang-up") or if he expects me to "finish myself" while allowing me to touch him (I call this "Eastern European hang-up"). Sorry, not interested. If anything, it's a major mood killer, and I would then prefer it if they wouldn't try or advertise sensual or "relaxing" massage. But then, I guess, it would be tough to justify charging anything more than $80-100 an hour. I pay $80 for top notch professional masseuse (yeah, she is a woman, but super strong and EXCELLENT in taking care of issues) next door.
 
My most recent example of ridiculousness is this dude being naked but wearing a sock over his package, which is what I realized when I turned around. I mean, why even bother? Does that work for ANY of his clients?
https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/thebestmassage.shtml

Deposit? Don't do it.

Why so many “suggestive” photos if no extras? That’s a bummer. And yes, I noticed that too. If he charges $85 for the base massage and clients paid much more, why? 90 minutes maybe?

This is the sexiest talk I have read on this forum.

For those of you who are single, you just don’t have this problem.
For those who are in an open relationship also, I have no idea how you even got there, but you don’t have this issue.
 
For the rest of us (probably a minority), we have, for many reasons, not everything we want at home, and at the same time we have not the ability to be open about the fact that we are hiring sexual services to compensate what we cannot get at home.
 
First, let brush aside why you cannot simply tell our significant other:
It is likely different for everyone. But there may be a recurring reason: The partner believes in monogamy. You don’t. How do you reconcile that? You don’t. Beliefs are not always reconcilable. So you could just tell them about this difference of beliefs and hurt them by telling them you go fuck around, and maybe they will just leave you, or, you can keep it very quiet.
This is the path many choose. It has major disadvantages over being single, but you get to keep a life partner.
 
Why hiring rather than have an affair? An affair is really dangerous. Your casual fuck could become a repeat, which could become a regular, which could fall in love with you. A guy in love with you is ready to do any stupid thing, especially if he is young. So he could be asking for you to get a divorce and marry him, or he could blackmail you to come at your door and reveal everything to your significant other if you don’t leave them for him.
Less dangerous, but still awkward, he could be calling you at the wrong time because he “wants to speak to you and hear your voice”.
 
Hiring escorts avoids all of this with near certainty. An escort is only interested in you because of your money. He won’t fall in love with you, and so you won’t have to be scared that he will do something crazy. It is also part of his job to be very discreet. You don’t even have to tell him where you live or your real name. So he can’t turn up at your door and tell your life partner.
Unless you have money for him, he is not interested in you.
 
The other advantages of escorts over an affair are:
 
1. A lot of variety of guys, rather than repeat with just one guy over and over again.
 
2. The guys you fuck are much hotter than whatever you can pull! Let’s face it, you cannot get hotties any longer. They prefer to sleep with other hotties. Unless you pay them.
 
3. They are pros. They know how to have good sex, because they've had so much of it. Unlike a random average guy you pulled in a bar, who is still guessing the details of how to deep throat properly, or cleanup down there properly.
 
Obviously, with a significant other that cannot know you are hiring, you have a huge amount of limitations:
 
You cannot use your home for anything, unless your significant other goes away for a long period of time AND you can avoid the neighbours seeing your escort, or talking about him completely. Seems unlikely. Also doing something at home means the escort knows where you live and one day he may even consider to blackmail you into giving him money in exchange for “not knocking at your door and telling everything to your significant other”.
If you are single, this blackmail is simply not possible (some other type of blackmail may still be).
 
So you chose home to be out of bounds for escorts. Much simpler.
 
That gives you only very few options:
 
- get a hotel room, which increases the cost of the escort quite significantly, even with day hotels.
 
- use only escorts that do incalls. This reduces the number of escorts you have access to, to 1/3rds of the total number of escorts I think.
 
But also the time at which you are expected home is not extensible indefinitely. In the evening, you are supposed to be back at a time that makes sense for someone that works AND that isn’t having an affair.
 
So when can you see an escort?
 
1. During work hours or lunch time breaks. If your work is intense, this is likely to be very short periods. It won’t make you feel like you have a temporary boyfriend, unlike an overnight could. But if you have a significant other, then maybe you just don’t need that. If you just need to empty your balls, it can make sense.
 
2. After work. Claim that you have an office after-work drinks or something like this. That cannot be too frequent, though. Very suspicious especially if your partner knows some of the people at work.
 
3. A couple of hours in the evenings or weekends. You can claim you are spending time with a friend, if that friend is ready to “cover for you” and lie about the fact that you were together. Alternatively, you can claim you are going to the gym.
 
4. A multi-day business travel: you will be busy during the day (presumably working) but not most evenings. Great, because you have a hotel, so you can do outcalls, and also you don’t have any time by which you are expected at home in the evening. Schedule the maximum amount of fucking that you can afford.
 
5. If you and your partner sometimes go on holidays separately. This is likely to be rare. 2 cases:
A. If your significant other is away on holidays, your schedule at home is completely free. You can be fucking in your home area for as long as you want everyday that they are away. Just make sure you don’t take a FaceTime call from the escort’s bedroom.
B. If you go away on a holiday without your significant other. Even better than business travel: you are completely free to replace museum visits or beach time with as much fucking as you can afford. You can do overnights, breakfasts in bed, lunches and dinners with an escort. Do it all!
 
 
Not sure why I write so much today. Just dumping a load of thoughts onto you guys

I've only had terrific experiences with PM. It's great to have those one-on-one exchanges and meet new folks (and potential real-life friends).

I've only had terrific experiences with PM. It's great to have those one-on-one exchanges and meet new folks (and potential real-life friends).

I've only had terrific experiences with PM. It's great to have those one-on-one exchanges and meet new folks (and potential real-life friends).

I've only had terrific experiences with PM. It's great to have those one-on-one exchanges and meet new folks (and potential real-life friends).

sorry to report but it is a business service, and it is time that you seek another provider who you feel will provide what you are paying for.

This is what happens after "the fire goes out" on a relationship, be it a paid relationship or not.
 
It is time to move on and find someone else.

Hey guys...any info on Lucas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
https://rent.men/LucasV

That post-coital "thank you" really warms my heart and tells me they are eager to do business with me again. It's a small investment with a 250-300 dollar pay-off. Such easy money if you ask me, considering most folks are lucky to get paid 100 for a day's work.

As a health care professional, I never expected any "tips"--gifts, or frankly acknowledgement of any kind. When it happened, it really put the spring in my step.
 
When my Stepfather was in the hospital ... Lord only knows why, he was in his '90's ... I encouraged my mother to do the same. She did, and was warmly welcomed by the staff.
 
No, it's not a necessary social convention, but it is deeply appreciated. It generally makes up for all the insulting a$$holes out there.

I believe that eventually the ship rights itself. The adults in the room realize that not everything is black or white or that you can mete out the same punishment for every accusation. There are various degrees of impropriety and they have to be decided upon appropriately. The problem will be (and perhaps this is what perpetrators want) is that everything becomes so overwhelming that it seems that nothing can be corrected. I think that some in Congress and in business are doing the smart thing. They are holding off making certain decisions while they swiftly put a credible process in place so that there is fairness to the system. Moreover, while this is happening what really must go on is that we must accept the fact that it is the culture itself that much change and that will be done in very subtle (and some not so subtle) ways. Unfortunately that will be a very long haul.

This is a great business move in my opinion, especially shortly after the meeting. A text along the line of "Great visit" encourages a client to want to engage again since it shows the escort didn't forget you when the door closes.
 

 
A number of that type of provider send me Christmas/Birthday cards. I've had thank you notes from jewelry shops where I've spent good money. It's an easy way of engaging with the customer beyond the normal bounds of service.

I cannot confirm this but years ago, speaking to several gay male masseurs, they admitted Lauer was a client who liked more than a rub.
One of the guys was very trustworthy.
 
Rumor has it that David Geffen is next on the list of those who acted inappropriately!

He will surely enjoy my enthusiastic minstrations! ;-)

That post-coital "thank you" really warms my heart and tells me they are eager to do business with me again. It's a small investment with a 250-300 dollar pay-off. Such easy money if you ask me, considering most folks are lucky to get paid 100 for a day's work.