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To me, "mutual touch" means that I can touch him. Obviously, he's going to have his hands all over me -- exactly where is something else again. That's difficult to predict. Just about every masseur who advertises will provide a happy ending, unless his ad says "strictly therapeutic," or something like that. If they keep their shorts and shirt on, they will usually tell you in the ad.
But I think that Bashful is right to ask -- that's just politeness and consideration. Respect and civility go a long
way in the massage game, just as they do in other aspects of daily life. Many times, you just have to play it by ear -- no pun intended!

"I saw Goody Proctor with the Devil?" This is the only site in the world where escorting and classic American theater are combined in the same thread! Love you guys!!

Yes, Jake Rose (or the person in the photos, whoever he is) is VERY hot! But I'm amazed and appalled at the lengths that clients must go to determine if they are being defrauded or not. It's sad that this "industry" is so rife with deception and fraud, and that clients must take all sorts of security measures (such as three-finger selfies) to make sure that their money and time isn't wasted on frauds.
I hire masseurs, not escorts, but I'm constantly faced with this problem, and The Spa is full of stories about wasted time and money, outing of fakers, and advice on how to spot them.
As our so-called president would say, "Sad."

I saw this last night (I think I have the correct title) at the Lyceum in NYC, and it's the funniest thing I've seen in years and years! I'm surprised no one has mentioned this British farce here until now (unless I missed it).
Everyone I know loved it, and I recommend it to all of you.

You might also try Peter, also on the upper west side:
https://www.massagem4m.com/masseur/12769/ There's more than one Peter on M4M, so I wanted to give you the link. Peter, as his ad says, is a licensed masseur, but will also provide very sensual and erotic elements in the final 15 minutes of the hour. He's a very open and honest guy, and you can discuss exactly what you want and don't want. Unlike Burin, Peter will be naked (unless you prefer otherwise) , and does the massage on a bed. Burin, I'm sure, uses a table.
 
You might also try Lysander, whose rate is very, very low, and is a bargain for the good massage you will get. He does the massage naked, unless you want him to be clothed. He uses a table. His apartment is a bit cramped, but it's still worth what he asks. Lysander is also a very low-key, open person. PM me if you want to know more.

James, there is no need to be nervous! Excited, yes. Eagerly anticipating, yes. Pam is a very easygoing guy (and I assume his English has improved since the last time I saw him), even a bit shy -- except when that shirt comes off! You're gonna love your massage experience, and this will be the first of many, I assure you.

I was trying to think of Pan's name; yes, I also recommend him highly. I saw him twice when he was in New York, but he hasn't been here lately. A body you won't forget!!

I'm sorry that you had a bad experience, but his ad is such nonsensical gibberish that you should not have expected a sensual message. As I said in another post yesterday, most of these guys will promise whatever the client requests, even though they have no intention of keeping their promise. Of course, you had no way of knowing that he was lying to you, but the ad should have been a red flag.

Yes, the reviews are similar in language and length, and you should worry. Unless you have a recommendation from a reliable source, such as someone in this chat room, you are risking your time and money. Recommendations on these sites are worthless. THEY DON'T PRINT THE BAD REVIEWS!!!
If you walked into a bar, and asked for Michelob or Stoly, and the bartender showed you a bottle with a label that said, "I'm really good. Try me," and you had never heard of this beer or vodka, would you pay money for it? And drink it?

Yes, the reviews are similar in language and length, and you should worry. Unless you have a recommendation from a reliable source, such as someone in this chat room, you are risking your time and money. Recommendations on these sites are worthless. THEY DON'T PRINT THE BAD REVIEWS!!!
If you walked into a bar, and asked for Michelob or Stoly, and the bartender showed you a bottle with a label that said, "I'm really good. Try me," and you had never heard of this beer or vodka, would you pay money for it? And drink it?

Yes, the reviews are similar in language and length, and you should worry. Unless you have a recommendation from a reliable source, such as someone in this chat room, you are risking your time and money. Recommendations on these sites are worthless. THEY DON'T PRINT THE BAD REVIEWS!!!
If you walked into a bar, and asked for Michelob or Stoly, and the bartender showed you a bottle with a label that said, "I'm really good. Try me," and you had never heard of this beer or vodka, would you pay money for it? And drink it?

I'm sorry that you had a bad experience, but his ad is such nonsensical gibberish that you should not have expected a sensual message. As I said in another post yesterday, most of these guys will promise whatever the client requests, even though they have no intention of keeping their promise. Of course, you had no way of knowing that he was lying to you, but the ad should have been a red flag.

There was a discussion of her disappearance and the photograph on NPR this afternoon (Thursday). Evidently, the US knew all about the crash and what the Japanese did, but did not want to reveal that we had broken the Japanese codes. The Hitler Channel --- oops! I mean the History Channel --- will broadcast their program about this on Sunday night at 9 pm EDT.

There was a discussion of her disappearance and the photograph on NPR this afternoon (Thursday). Evidently, the US knew all about the crash and what the Japanese did, but did not want to reveal that we had broken the Japanese codes. The Hitler Channel --- oops! I mean the History Channel --- will broadcast their program about this on Sunday night at 9 pm EDT.

There was a discussion of her disappearance and the photograph on NPR this afternoon (Thursday). Evidently, the US knew all about the crash and what the Japanese did, but did not want to reveal that we had broken the Japanese codes. The Hitler Channel --- oops! I mean the History Channel --- will broadcast their program about this on Sunday night at 9 pm EDT.

Yes, the advertising situation is in flux right now. Some of my guys tell me they have migrated to Rentmasseur because it's cheaper and also because M4M and Masseurfinder aren't as good as they used to be, have far too many silly restrictions, and charge too much for what they deliver.
One of my guys, who's been advertising in NYC for a long time, told me that one of those sites deleted his use of "sessions" in his ad. Too suggestive for them! I recently reviewed another long-time advertiser on M4M, and they finally posted the review (after a delay of more than ten days), and they had edited the review. (Without telling either me or the masseur.) I assure you that there were NO suggestive words in it, as I know how to play their game. I forget what adjective I had used to describe the massage, but they substituted "nice." I spotted it because I would never use a weak, non-descriptive word like that.

Yes, the advertising situation is in flux right now. Some of my guys tell me they have migrated to Rentmasseur because it's cheaper and also because M4M and Masseurfinder aren't as good as they used to be, have far too many silly restrictions, and charge too much for what they deliver.
One of my guys, who's been advertising in NYC for a long time, told me that one of those sites deleted his use of "sessions" in his ad. Too suggestive for them! I recently reviewed another long-time advertiser on M4M, and they finally posted the review (after a delay of more than ten days), and they had edited the review. (Without telling either me or the masseur.) I assure you that there were NO suggestive words in it, as I know how to play their game. I forget what adjective I had used to describe the massage, but they substituted "nice." I spotted it because I would never use a weak, non-descriptive word like that.

Yes, the advertising situation is in flux right now. Some of my guys tell me they have migrated to Rentmasseur because it's cheaper and also because M4M and Masseurfinder aren't as good as they used to be, have far too many silly restrictions, and charge too much for what they deliver.
One of my guys, who's been advertising in NYC for a long time, told me that one of those sites deleted his use of "sessions" in his ad. Too suggestive for them! I recently reviewed another long-time advertiser on M4M, and they finally posted the review (after a delay of more than ten days), and they had edited the review. (Without telling either me or the masseur.) I assure you that there were NO suggestive words in it, as I know how to play their game. I forget what adjective I had used to describe the massage, but they substituted "nice." I spotted it because I would never use a weak, non-descriptive word like that.

One of the best masseurs in Florida is RJ in Kissimmee. Sorry, but don't know these two.
 
http://www.massagem4m.com/fl/kissimmee/11304

I suggest Arjun, who advertises on M4M. I've been a happy client for more than 5 years.

I suggest Arjun, who advertises on M4M. I've been a happy client for more than 5 years.

Sorry for the attitude. He wasn't unfriendly; he was pleasant enough. I really don't remember if the massage was good or bad, so I guess it was OK. It was clear that I wasn't satisfied, so the atmosphere was a bit chilly when I left. I never express dissatisfaction verbally, or by petulancy, but it was clear that I would not be returning.
I'll venture to say that reviews on those sites -- excellent or unfavorable -- don't mean much. We never know who wrote them. A masseur can easily ask a friend to send in a review, and the site doesn't know who or where the review is coming from. Also, masseurs sometimes ask (I've been asked several times) to write a review in return for a discout on the next session.
As I recall, my advice to "stay away" was primarily because the masseur didn't deliver what was promised.
There are SO MANY good masseurs in New York -- I think you can do much better.

Hamilton is the guy I just posted about today, who I gave the negative review to. I also talked about him the other day, after the massage, but I didn't mention his name. However, since you ASKED, I don't feel reluctant to give you a good answer. If you can see the negative reviews (I'm sure my review hasn't been posted yet, as I sent it this morning), or if you can see my review before he takes it down, do so.
This guy does NOT give a sensual massage, let alone erotic. Stay away.

Yes, Jake Rose (or the person in the photos, whoever he is) is VERY hot! But I'm amazed and appalled at the lengths that clients must go to determine if they are being defrauded or not. It's sad that this "industry" is so rife with deception and fraud, and that clients must take all sorts of security measures (such as three-finger selfies) to make sure that their money and time isn't wasted on frauds.
I hire masseurs, not escorts, but I'm constantly faced with this problem, and The Spa is full of stories about wasted time and money, outing of fakers, and advice on how to spot them.
As our so-called president would say, "Sad."

Yes, Jake Rose (or the person in the photos, whoever he is) is VERY hot! But I'm amazed and appalled at the lengths that clients must go to determine if they are being defrauded or not. It's sad that this "industry" is so rife with deception and fraud, and that clients must take all sorts of security measures (such as three-finger selfies) to make sure that their money and time isn't wasted on frauds.
I hire masseurs, not escorts, but I'm constantly faced with this problem, and The Spa is full of stories about wasted time and money, outing of fakers, and advice on how to spot them.
As our so-called president would say, "Sad."