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"I saw Goody Proctor with the Devil?" This is the only site in the world where escorting and classic American theater are combined in the same thread! Love you guys!!

http://www.masseurfinder.com/members/nikkovenezuela.shtml Anybody have any experience with him? I like his ad -- for what ads and "testimonials" are worth. I've had it with unreviewed masseurs -- by that, I mean reliable reviews, like the ones here. I'm not spending $150 for a pig in a poke any more. So -- Nikko, anyone?

I emailed Guillermo. Received a prompt and polite reply. He's at 9th Street & Broadway. He charges $150 for an incall, and $200 for an outcall. $50 is a big differential, especially for a subway ride to 66th St. I would take one for the team, but I'm busy for a week or two. Anyone to take the plunge?

Yes, he has some interesting comments on sensual massage -- I hope that he does what he suggests in the ad. I've also love to hear any reviews from anyone who has taken the plunge. Please PM me if you don't want to review him here.

I can't possibly imagine someone charging $2500 for an overnight and not providing escort services. I don't understand why he doesn't say so. Is he afraid of the morality police? Perhaps it's understood that with such a high price, this will include escort services.

There was a masseur several months ago named Cam, whose ad was headlined "Cam Can Massage." This masseur is named Can, but all his testimonials refer to him as Cam. Is this "Cam Can Massage," from a previous incarnation? The previous masseur was also a rather spiritual fellow. (And after reading all of this ad, I'd say that 'incarnation' is an appropriate word!)

Can't find this movie on Wolfe Video or on TLA. I doubt if it will be in theaters! Where can I see it? Thanks.

For $200, you should expect a lot more than a nibble. A lot more!

That's probably the best written summary I've seen since anything hinting of an erotic massage was banned on M4M and Masseurfinder. I can infer anything I want about what Logan will provide. I think all the reviews were written by the same person. That many reviews should be in different styles. But I'd certainly be interested in hearing from anyone who's been with him.

Is pre-vintage a word?

We've had a lot of discussion about tipping. You're right to tip in a salon or a spa, where management takes a large cut of the fee you pay. You're also right that all the $$ goes directly to the masseur when it's one-on-one. For this reason, I usually do not tip when a masseur charges $150 for an hour. That's enough. I know that many clients tip their masseurs, which is fine with me, but I do not tip.

You say there is "lots of body contact," but he won't take his shorts off. Well, that's one part of his body that you can't contact! Also, $160 for a guy who won't get naked? Considering all the other "sexy" (to use your word) masseurs in New York, I don't think this appeals to me. However, I'm glad that MarkNY had a good time, which is what he hoped for and paid for. Good to hear from you, Mark. Welcome to The Spa!

I'd say that some of these are Photoshopped, but the guy in blue, #3, forgot his fanny pack and has his lunch in there!

I've had many massages from Bryan (and a little bit more, too), and I highly recommend him to you. He's a gentle, sincere, funny guy, photos are accurate, and heknows what he's doing, whether it's massage or escorting. He has excellent reviews on Daddy's. He will be perfect for what you want, and can "give a great massage, too," as you stipulate.

No experience with Rob, but this sounds like a strictly therapeutic massage, and his rate is a little high for that. This is a perfect example of how all these ads have become so uninformative since the Rentboy arrests.

Photo #1 is mouth-watering, but it's down hill from there. What in the world is that guy wearing in #4? A bra? These photos certainly don't all look like the guy in #1. And he wants $200 to come here for an hour? Fuggedaboudit!

Excessive filing of law suits is barratry, and can land you in the pokey in many states. (It's also a word I came up with on the New York Times Spelling Bee in the Sunday puzzle section.)

James, there is no need to be nervous! Excited, yes. Eagerly anticipating, yes. Pam is a very easygoing guy (and I assume his English has improved since the last time I saw him), even a bit shy -- except when that shirt comes off! You're gonna love your massage experience, and this will be the first of many, I assure you.

I was trying to think of Pan's name; yes, I also recommend him highly. I saw him twice when he was in New York, but he hasn't been here lately. A body you won't forget!!

James, I don't think you ought to get a 4-handed massage until you have had several 2-handed. Unless you don't care about money. They're expensive, and many people (like me) think the extra expense isn't worth it -- UNLESS you get two guys who really know how to work in sync. And most duos do not know how to really work in sync. I think the difference between erotic and sensual massage is what the masseur thinks it is. Of course, erotic definitely includes a happy ending, and usually lots of touching and body contact. Maybe oral. If a masseur advertises sensual massage, he usually includes a happy ending, but not always. After all, all massages are sensual, especially if both of you are naked. As for the nipple request, I agree with DutchMuch. Don't be afraid to ask, and offer extra $$ as an inducement if you need to. After you evaluate his reply. Frankly, I don't think it's such an odd request, and should not require extra money. If you like the massage, you can tip. And it's certainly not a request that's limited to escorts. As far as "what is etiquette," ask everything that's on your mind. Again, you're not asking anything unusual. Just be respectful, and you'll get along fine. I highly recommend Max in San Francisco. (He's Asian, and doesn't show his face in the ad.) I saw him here in New York, and returned the next day. And the next. BTW- DutchMuch said that Ricardo gives a "grade C massage in a cold apartment," and you're still interested? I think DutchMuch is really saying, "stay the fuck away from this guy," but is too polite to use those words. But I wouldn't know. But I'd look elsewhere.

Sergio's pictures are tantalizing, but there's no mention at all of his rates. (Thanks for pointing out that he does outcalls only, which isn't on the ad.) How much does he charge?

The only one of these four that I've been with is James. I agree with EVdude that James is an excellent masseur. Nice apartment near City Hall, nice guy, low key, good massage.

To me, "mutual touch" means that I can touch him. Obviously, he's going to have his hands all over me -- exactly where is something else again. That's difficult to predict. Just about every masseur who advertises will provide a happy ending, unless his ad says "strictly therapeutic," or something like that. If they keep their shorts and shirt on, they will usually tell you in the ad. But I think that Bashful is right to ask -- that's just politeness and consideration. Respect and civility go a long way in the massage game, just as they do in other aspects of daily life. Many times, you just have to play it by ear -- no pun intended!

OK, Terpmaniac, I can understand that. There are a number of masseurs who push the envelope for some clients and not for others. But how am I to know if I am one of the favored few? After a few massages without eroticism, see which way the wind is blowing and see if he bestows his "extras" on me? Do I really want to invest several sessions, hoping that I meet his unstated specifications, and that I will be the recipient of his erotic largesse?

I think I'm missing something here. Is this code for "yes, I'm very erotic and very interactive?" I've taken Terpmaniac's recommendations before (Harrison was one of his best), so I'm interested in what Terpmaniac neans by "that is my favorite lie!" If I'm missing out on a good thing, please let this slightly naïve guy know it!