Shoedog112

How do you guys handle a low back strain before being able to see a chiropractor? I don’t even know what I did to trigger the muscle, but it is super painful to stand or walk without a limp. I have a heating pad, but the muscle doesn’t feel like it’s relaxing. 

Oy. Just PM the dude. We don’t all need to read these messages. 

Very interesting thread and topic!    I love car negotiations.    I actually just joined a new gym,   the first time in my adult life I changed gyms and it was what I call a "car negotiation.    I trade cars frequently and especially with the value of trade ins  recently,  I love to see what I can get.      A few things I'd recommend:
1.Know your facts about the car you want and if you are trading,   what you will take for the trade.
2. Don't limit yourself to local dealers.   While I live in Kansas,  my latest Camaro came from St. Joseph,  MO  and my Jeep Gladiator came from Tulsa,  OK.    I've purchased care i Missouri,  Oklahoma,  Arkansas and other states.   Some dealerships don't want to "play games"  as they put it and won't negotiate on your terms or level.   Screw them and cross them off the list and move forward.    You will always find someone who will negotiate with you.     They might be willing to come down from the MSRP,  but they will screw you with the trade in allowance.   You must balance everything,   taxes paid,  trade in cost basis,   what they will give you to drive to them.     I usually get $300-$500  for travel.    I also like to look if I'm in other cities,  seeing escort clients.   
If you are dedicated and serious,  it works well.    Don't take your eye off the ball and always be ready to head for the door if they aren't being fair or above board.    That happened in Little Rock,  Arkansas.    More often than not,   you will hear,    "Wait a minute".....

Yes. NX350h.  I bought the IS250 when they first came out and there wasn’t too much wiggle room since the demand was so high for the new model. I don’t remember how I ended up landing the deal, but appreciate your suggestions. 

@Shoedog112 Before talking to the dealer about the value of your trade-in, take the car to a CarMax and have them tell you what they would buy it for.  (It takes less than an hour, and you can make an appointment ahead of time.). That price will be good for 7 days.  Then, when you go to the dealer to finalize the purchase, you will know what you can get for your car and counter their trade-in offer.  Like you, I have never wanted to sell my old car myself, but I hate to leave money on the table and found this to work well for me in the past.

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Plus it added up to more than that because he took it off the pretax price of the car so it brought the taxes down a bit more then. I also put the max I could for the down payment on my credit card which was $4,000 I believe for the cash back.

I negotiated a higher trade-in value too.

when you get to an agreed-upon price, check whether there is also a non-negotiable additional fee on the contract (hard printed!) for dealer prep, etc.......I hard-bargained for my last car and was surprised to see this extra fee (was only about $500) pre-printed on the contract......also, be ready for the sales tax charge......and extended warranty pressure......
there is also a thing called "dealer holdback" in which the manufacturer pays the dealer for every car sold, no matter the actual customer sale price....it's usually 1-3% of the MSRP, so don't feel too "bad" if you bargain hard and get a deal!!.....they won't sell the car if they don't want to!......
I don't know if every dealer is this way, but the little salesman you deal with at first when you show up will get a minimum commission no matter the sale price......he'll get more, however, if the sale price is higher......and be ready for that classic scene where the salesman leaves you, goes back to talk with his sales manager about your offer, and comes back with a counter.....all very dramatic!.......

 
 

You mean the Lexus NX350h.
First, use the industry Black Book (not Blue Book) to see what a dealer has paid for the car wholesale.  That's where you start negotiations.
Don't let a salesperson know too much, too quickly- They'll ask if you're leasing, financing or a cash buyer.  Don't set this in stone until you get a price you agree with. 
Never buy the first visit to the dealer.
Always be prepared to get up and walk out.
And if you walk out, make sure you leave with the salesperson's final price quote on the car (drive-out price) and that he has your phone number.
End of the month is always better to buy than early or mid.
Bottom line, you don't really negotiate.  You wait them out until they hit the (realistic) number you want.  If the model isn't a massive seller, you're more likely to win playing the long game if you can stand it.
Note:  Don't try this with a Porsche.  I learned that the hard way.

Add me to the list who would love to see a link to Daniel Montoya's listing...

But as for me, I'm a broken record on this:
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I'd say Tom Holland, but only if I could hire a big burly top to have at him.

that Zacattack Zach Beech? kid - who has a KILLER smile. 
He is either straight or is a brilliant actor 'cuz he acts straight and sweet and almost innocent.
There was this escort I knew...he was putting himself through school and he's since completed his education so he's gone but I swear it was like hanging out with the star quarterback, a Navy SEAL, and your best friend's big brother all rolled into one demi-god. 
He GOT me. 
I'd pay anything to see him again. Alas...he's gone. 
 
 

Timothée Chalamet please. LMK his overnight allowance? 😉

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Here you go, a solid playlist of 9 videos of Lower Back Exercises.  Everybody loves Bob and Brad, me too!, but Physiotutors are my first go to for home exercises to assist with injuries.  Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/@Physiotutors
For most injuries ice is only helpful for the first 48 hours, then heat is fine.  I'm a big fan of mobic (rx only) over OTC NSAIDS, but that's just me. 
Even though I'm a masseur, or I was before my stupid Tennis Elbow, I suggest waiting longer than most people suggest before getting a massage, even from a non-erotic professional.  Massage is best when the injury is no longer super acute. 
Anti-inflammatory pills, as tolerated, for a week or so, Ice for a couple days, then heat, gentle, proven, stretches after day two maybe.   Once it's quite improved, then maybe a gentle massage.  Then a deeper massage.  If Hot tubs work at all, they are best for chronic, not acute, injuries.  Feel better!