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Or, as one of my boys tells me, he doesn't necessarily remember what interview conversation he had with whom. My interviewing a provider might be my most important conversation in days; to him, it's likely just one of very many interviews he has in a week with people he does not know and doesn't know if he will ever see. Even if you think you came to "agreements" in the interview, best to reiterate them at the actual appointment. He is, one way or another, performing for you. You have to tell him the script.

If I were a provider and had a slot open, I would be delighted to be number two...I fill a slot, get paid for it, and potentially have a new regular if I do a great job. And I would work doubly hard to show you I am better than that other guy anyway!

I have two regulars who've upped their rates 20-30% since pre-covid. These rates are right where the competition seems to be. They both observe how many more providers there are then before, and how much less business they have. Capitalism at work.

ICTJOCK, I have a life, and I assume my boys have a life. I typically send my appointment request out on Sunday and give the provider a choice of numerous days and times during the week. It seems to me this is both realistic and respectful. He knows when I am available, and picks a slot when he is available. On rare occasions, I have had to reschedule when something else comes up during the week. Likewise on rare occasions, they may reschedule is something else comes up for them (a better offer, a longer appointment, a trip, I don't care). I know, there are times a guy needs it "right now", or thinks the provider's life revolves around him. You may forego a few of those clients by insisting you deserve a life of your own. But that's your choice. It may be financially (and emotionally) better to have a steady repeat respectful clientele than to jump on every possible opportunity. I don't know. That is your choice.

When I had a professional consulting business, attached to each contract was a rate sheet titled "Hourly Rates, 2023". This set the expectation that the rates were not forever. Depending on the job, the client, the longevity of the contract, etc., (including how busy I was), I adjusted rates periodically. But any adjustments had to take into account the state of the economy, how committed the client was, etc. Supply and Demand.

There is something about a hands-free anal orgasm that is intensely emotional. It's just like mother said it was supposed to be like.

Early on in life an older and wiser woman taught me there are two things people always lie about...money and sex. So here we have someone making money by doing sex work. And anyone is surprised that some people lie? Protect yourself boys.

I may be generalizing, since I did not start using providers until I was past 65, but I am assuming many clients are "of a certain age." I think if you select providers who have been in the business for several years or more, who are not 20, and whose bio and reviews suggest they are professional and a nice person, you don't have a lot to worry about. My regular guys (early '30s, well-assembled, and stunning) tell me they have a wide variety of regular clients, from young professional gym bunnies who don't have time to date or Grindr, to many seniors who want and can afford the very best. By and large, few if any providers will have a long-term successful business if they discriminate on age. Do your research well, treat them as a valued professional, and enjoy!

Young people are definitely more casual about time and appointments than I was taught to be. A few years ago, around 5 pm I asked a young employee (college grad, several years solid work experience) what he was doing after work. He said "Oh it's my birthday, I think I'll have a party." I asked if he had invited people, and he said no, but he would send out a text, and they would meet at a bar. I couldn't believe it. The next day I asked him how it went, and he said around 25 people showed up. Clearly these people had nothing scheduled but just went with the flow. When I was middle-aged I had a job that involved lots of public events. My younger staff and I always laughed that "old people always show up early." Yup. And now that I am old, I show up places early.

When I was in my late '30s, my then-lover and I had the same gay GP. My lover and I were also social friends of the Doc and his lover, but there was never any sexual tension among us. One year, when I went for may annual physical, the Doc found a lump on one of my testicles. At the exam, he was also teaching a (straight) German exchange medical student. Being a thorough Doc, he examined the family jewels in great detail, manipulating them every which way, shining a light through the scrotum, etc. Then it was time for the med student to go through the same procedure, in even more detail since he was learning. As this beautiful bond Teutonic 20-something year-old was going over ever centimeter of my junk, I looked at the Doc, and he gave me a big wink. I cracked up. All above board, but I still think of it every time I see the Doc.

When I moved to San Francisco, I was taught the 15 rule...for work, for a lunch date, for a doctor's appointment, for whatever. When you depend on transit, there is no such thing as late...you get there when you get there. That being said, a prudent person knows this and leaves 15 minutes before he thinks he needs to. That being said, and having picked my providers carefully, I have never had to wait but a few minutes and they have never had to wait for me but a few minutes. And mostly not at all. Works for me.

My you are young. A lick and a promise goes back much further than that...my grandmother used it and I't be pretty sure she wasn't talking about blow jobs. Here's what google says: The origin of the colloquial expression “a lick and a promise” takes us back to the early 1800s. It was mostly used in the context of house cleaning, when maids or servants would skim over a bigger task to get the smaller tasks done first, with the intention of coming back and dedicating their full attention to it.

I haven't met w SS as I don't live in his city (current or soon to be) but he is a frequent contributor to this site and you will learn a lot about him by reading his posts. I find him a very attractive personality and would expect a good experience based on that.

It seems to me a major part of the concept of COM is to share real life experience about providers that you don't find on RM and other similar sites, what a particular venue is "really like," what is happening in the industry, and so on. Any time I have received a PM I have been happy to respond...that is why I read other people's reviews, and I assume that is why they read mine...to get the real skinny. Since some things are better not posted on a public message board, that is why PMs exist. I have always tried to be helpful even if the answer is "I don't know." And I have received grateful responses always or nearly always. Works for me.

I don't know what your type is but I have enjoyed TravisThailand a couple of times when we both were in Hawaii. Competent masseur, personable, friendly, warm. TravisThailand on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com

Van Darkholme shows up in San Francisco periodically…performing at Dore Alley and Folsom Street fairs. That photo is at least 15 years old. Unfortunately, like us mere mortals, he has become decidedly middle-aged and is not the hot youth that ericwinters (and I) have dreamt about.

And here he is on RentMen https://app.rent.men/ROCCOAMERICA

I have had that experience with Rocco in Hawaii a couple of years ago. He is based in Yuma AZ but is frequently in LA and Honolulu. I see from his ad, he will be in LA May 2-4 on his way to Hawaii. (He also advertises on RentMen). I'd do it again! Rocco on RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com

I also think it would be helpful if the reviewer could provide some self-description. We often read that "mileage may vary by..." so this might give some indication if the provider has a pattern of acting differently with different ages/body types etc.

How are Spas defined? How are Strip Clubs defined? It seems to me there are Sex Venues (sex clubs, back rooms, video arcades, play parties, bathhouses, strip clubs, etc.) the purpose of which is a location to get down and dirty one way or another. And then there are legitimate (or mostly legitimate) Spas, the purpose of which is some kind of luxurious body treatment. There could be other ways to categorize venues also. I think what I am looking for on COM is info on places to get down and dirty.

How will providers be listed?...I hope by home location. If I'm going to, say, Chicago, I am only interested in reading reviews of Chicago providers. And even if providers are traveling, you can usually pick up their home location from RM/Rentmasseur. And for my home city, I might want to know who is new and hot. And within the location, by reverse date...latest first.

In San Francisco there used to be several local numbers you could call that were rotating hook up sites. And then people figured out you didn't even need to do that...just random dial any number in the Castro neighborhood phone exchange late at night, and there was at least a 50/50 chance that you would get a gay man ready for telephone sex.

Just google "gay sex stories" and a whole slew of sites come up. My usuals are nifty.org, gaydemon.com, and literotica.com, but there a lots of others.

For many years when I was in my 30's I saw a (gym-shorted and tee- shirted) masseur who provided me with excellent therapeutic massages. One time when I arrived, his lover answered the street-facing door wearing only a cockring. I wasn't sure what he was trying to convey, but I was too young and inexperienced to find out. Today I would just grab the goods, get on my knees, and trade the massage for a 3-way, me in the middle. Ah the lost opportunities of a misspent youth.

It's small unsophisticated local organizations and some huge national organizations that subsist on tens or hundreds of thousands of $100-and-under donations who are the ones that trade or buy and sell lists. No sophisticated donor giving say, $1000 or more, gives based on a random cold-call solicitation that comes over the transom. Large gifts come from personal knowledge of board members, actual experience with or involvement in the organization, a friend or family member who has benefitted from the services of the organization, personal solicitation by a friend or family member, etc. All of these sources already know your address, phone number, and email. In addition, often organizations like alumni associations utilize their students, and arts groups their fans, in say, annual "call-athons." The real purpose of these irritating events is more often actually not to solicit you as much as it is to build a cadre of committed students-soon-to-be-generous alumni and audiences-soon-to-be season ticket holders and legacy society members. I have been on dozens of boards and committees and am currently raising hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for five different organizations from people I know and whom I believe would be interested in investing in one of those organization. None of these groups would dream of anything but a personal solicitation. They know a taking a name off someone else's list is a waste of ink. And that the packets of greeting cards or "gifts" are tacky, tacky, tacky. Of course, when generous donors invest in my cause, I expect to be solicited by them in return to invest in a different cause. But I am signing up for that. And at my age, there are few things I am sure of, but one of those is I am not going to take it with me. I get great pleasure out of seeing my hard-earned money spent wisely while I am alive. When I am dead, I will not know or care.