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7829V is shrewd for doing this. Ads change, pictures rotate, etc.  This gives us a chance to detect possible deception and also reminds us of past profiles we can't quite remember when a new one from the same provider appears. 

One of the biggest challenges that I've observed over the years is the number of "411" threads on a specific person.  There are times we could have anywhere from 3-12 on a single person!  This could happen for different reasons...  such as someone not knowing how to use the search function or the provider had changed their name.  
When we eventually launch the new review site, when a new item is added... a forum topic will automatically be created for that place/person.  It will have a subject of:
[ Category ] Item Name 
So for example, it might look like:
[ Escort ] John Doe
The first post inside of that topic will contain fields from the review (I can pick which fields get brought over so not all may be posted).  The goal will be that the topic will become the master topic about discussion about that item (person/place).  
Over time...  if we see information that changes about the item, people will be able to report it so that it can be updated.  So if an escort changes their name for example, someone would report that record and provide the new name.  A moderator will be able to update the item.  They'll also be able to add the old name to a special field called "Former Names".  This will let us to better track those who change their names from time to time.  
Inside the review record, it might look something like:

If other things change, that can be updated in the record itself.  
All of the detail from that record anytime it is edited would also sync to the master thread and edit the first post in it with the updated info, including the topic title if there was a a name change involved.  
Now... I'm going to put this out there now that moderators may from time to time not publish a name change in the "Former Names" field.  If we have reason to believe there is a risk to the person or there is another legitimate reason, we may update the name field only without adding the old name to the former name field.  
This will hopefully allow the first post to contain all of the latest known info about each item as it gets changed over time without needing to update 500 places.  If it works out the way I'm hoping, this will become the "source of truth" about the item and people can comment over time with their own observations, etc.  The topic itself would not be used for reviews.  (That's what the review system is for.) But general discussion about the person would happen there.
Eventually if someone does post a new thread about someone where a master topic exists, the moderators may end up merging that post into the master.
This is obviously not in place yet.  I'm just tossing the idea out there now so folks have a chance to comment on it and get used to the idea.  
 

To circle back on this...  
StarGZ has magically made his way back to spam more than 100 people via PM with a plea of innocence.   This heartfelt plea of someone who is not the provider and not in any way related to @pdxrick also just happens to only refer to me as "Radiobob".   This matches other behavior where the provider created nearly a dozen accounts and flooded the site with short 1-2 word replies in an effort to make it appear they were not only defending the provider.  (Anyone remember the Deli having literally 3 pages of replies each with just a couple of words?) I've never done this before, but I recommend our members not hire or interact with this provider in any way.  
He clearly has issues with telling the truth and potentially other mental health issues as well. (Note: I'm not a doctor and I'm not qualified to diagnose issues.  This is simply my own personal observation from interactions with the provider across over a dozen accounts.)
Going forward, any further topics around this provider will automatically be locked with a reply directing people back to this thread.  This site will not be used to create a false narrative using fake accounts to promote/defend a provider.  

Kevin Slater knows no such thing.
Kevin Slater

Alright... we're done now.  Time for a slice.  It's getting to the point where topics on this provider may end up being auto-closed going forward with a link to this and the prior thread.  We're ultimately doing nothing but going in circles and not having a meaningful discussion.  

I have met IvyleagueMrBig and can swear to you he is real and his clients are real.  IvyleagueMrBig is everything he says he is.  I have met him several times - in LA, in San Diego and in New York.  Each time was amazing.  I have provided my phone number to Radiobob and Kevin Slater and am willing to do a video chat to prove who I am.  I am happy to post in his defense as I have found him to be a great person and incredible in bed. HE is in a class by himself.  No other provider comes close. My first session with him went an incredible 10 hours!  I have sent him a deposit for a full weekend coming up in April.  He is the real deal.  The reviews that were deleted are real; IvyleagueMrBig does not need to defend himself.  I, like his other cients, do not post often on these forums.  Because of that, I believe you think it is him.  His clients tend to be of a wealthier group and are very discreet.  How do I make sure my posts about him will not be deleted? I want you to know that the user posts you deleted are not from the provider and StarGZ and VictorX are real clients. I have met them through IvyleagueMrBig.

Moderator Note:
I've removed multiple posts that were from the provider who has AGAIN come to this site pretending to be a customer to defend himself.  
If you have questions about this action, please see my note in the following thread:
 

It’s funny… this is something I’ve been working on for the new review system. 

Once we have the new review platform launched, a new forum topic will be generated by the platform. It will become a “master thread” around the provider. If the name is changed, the provider database record can be reported and updated. 

The system will track the current name and have a secondary field that shows former names. (This formerly known as field will only be updated by moderators to prevent abuse.)
It will also then sync back to that original master topic original post with the updated details  
There may be a few limited cases such as stalking or other safety situations where a moderator may implicitly choose not to update a record… but the idea is that we would have our own way of tracking this within the community. 

Oh trust me, I recognise all the flags, and I won’t be messaging him to book anytime soon - yet visually, (photoshop not withstanding), and how he comes across, presents himself in his text still makes him tempting - at least to me. 

In fairness, his business model to the side, he is a handsome, well built guy, with a nice dick, and a seemingly charming personality. He ticks the boxes for many hobbyists, not just me. So I’m at a loss why no one, (for clarity, no *trusted forum member*), from here has reported on meeting him. Does it just boil down to his fee? 

I think part of the interest for me is that he doesn’t fit into the normal/established boxes one associates with “Danger Will Robinson!” in this hobby. We know he is in fact the gent in the pics, so he’s not a catfish, and at one point his RM ad had reviews that were glowing - and not just one off reviewers, there were established clients with multiple provider reviews in the mix, so not every toot of his horn is coming from himself. Is he only looking to gin up interest in his “premium subscription” service? Is he just looking to land that one sugar daddy? That seemingly no one from here has met or admitted to meeting him is curious. All of this, and more keeps me intrigued I suppose. 

So many questions! Curiosity is going to kill this kitty! 😂
I remember at one time, when he first garnered interest here, a poster commented that he wasn’t bi at all, but was in fact gay, (not uncommon to discover), and the buddy he worked with was his BF. Who knows? But I’d wager peeking thru his social media would answer that question, and perhaps the rest too. Thus my query earlier if anyone knew his handles. 
 
BBD 

It's a shame that there isn't a mechanism to track all the name changes in RM.  That would be a yellow/red flag if you saw a profile change names as many as this one has.
I have spoken with this person, on video, so I know he's real and just as sexy as you see from his pics.  But there is such a giant red warning around him from his 1990's-style website, dated pics, one photoshopped dick pic, multiple profile names, ridiculous $, his "newsletter" which doesn't get updated, and then pretending to be multiple clients and heaping praise on himself....   

It's a shame that there isn't a mechanism to track all the name changes in RM.  That would be a yellow/red flag if you saw a profile change names as many as this one has.
I have spoken with this person, on video, so I know he's real and just as sexy as you see from his pics.  But there is such a giant red warning around him from his 1990's-style website, dated pics, one photoshopped dick pic, multiple profile names, ridiculous $, his "newsletter" which doesn't get updated, and then pretending to be multiple clients and heaping praise on himself....   

https://rentmasseur.com/LatinManuel
I actually have booked with him and not a great experience (but not why i'm writing).
As most of us know there are TONS of fake massage ads on grinder.  You know the ones HOT pics, you click and to book they want a credit card booking fee - FAKE
Anyways, there is one ad which has this guys pics.  I politely reached out to LatinManuel on RM to let him know and if it wasn't him I would reach out to grinder to report him.  I sent him 2 or 3 messages ALL which he read but never replied.
What a DICK.   A simply reply/courtesy would have been nice - "hey thanks, but that is me" or "hey thanks for letting me know thats not me" etc

It's a shame that there isn't a mechanism to track all the name changes in RM.  That would be a yellow/red flag if you saw a profile change names as many as this one has.
I have spoken with this person, on video, so I know he's real and just as sexy as you see from his pics.  But there is such a giant red warning around him from his 1990's-style website, dated pics, one photoshopped dick pic, multiple profile names, ridiculous $, his "newsletter" which doesn't get updated, and then pretending to be multiple clients and heaping praise on himself....   

The part that I don’t get is the constant creations of new RM accounts

Very controversial topic. Turned out that this escort was promoting himself on this forum. Countless name changes and new accounts created featuring « Ivy League » every time.
https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/138403-hungivyleaguexl-rentmen/

The rentmasseur profile says they are not on any dating sites and say those profiles are scams. The guy in the first photo is showing up on Grindr in the Nashville area offering massage with sex optional.

I'm located in Atlanta and have been to quite a few locals and traveling masseurs. To be fair, I won't list any "Stay Away" masseurs and will list the best from my perspective. Keep in mind that YMMV (your mileage ma vary). This is no particular order:
1. Tim: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/28143/ . The Dragon https://rentmasseur.com/TheLastDragon. Top notch. Very sensual. Great townhouse and setup. Provides a convenient shower and massage on a bed. I do not like bed massages but Tim gets it right. Good stretches. Quality lotions.  Keep in mind that West Atlanta can have a lot of traffic to move only one mile.
2. Marc: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/35838/ . Looks much better in person than his profile pictures. Been to him over 5 times. YMMV. Very professional and hygiene conscious. Takes great care of his body.
3. Tom: https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/16647/ . Great massage. Good dad bod. Pretty far out from the midtown. It is a hike to get to him but we click. Good guy.
4. ArthurATL: https://rentmasseur.com/ArthurATL . Hot, Hot, Hot. I prefer massage rates around $120. His price menu was higher but I took the plunge one time. I really enjoyed the massage but will probably not repeat unless the menu pricing comes down.
5. Bigitalianhands: https://rentmasseur.com/bigItalianhands . Located near Tim. Kind of an odd guy, but he is great at what he does. Beautiful body, very sensual and attentive. Found it odd that he talked about a recent girlfriend. To each their own.
6. Arielathome: https://rentmasseur.com/Arielathome . Went to him once in Sandy Springs. Great massage. You can tell he has training. He remained clothed the whole time but I could tell he had a nice tight, muscular body. I got the vibe that I could have pushed boundaries a little further but I did not. I also got the feeling he had a partner and restrained himself. Looks better in person.
7. EddeM: https://rentmasseur.com/EddyeM  . Had over 4 massages with him that were great. The last massage, I was face down and got the impression he was distracted / sending text messages while doing repetitive, one hand moves on my back. I ended the last massage early but did pay in full. I kind of regret ending it early. I could tell I hurt his feelings. Great guy. Great massage. Sadly, I burned that bridge.
 

Yes I found it surprising, especially given he’s an escort. It’s like being a carpenter but having an issue with sawdust. 
The only issue I have with cum is if it’s in my hair, so difficult to get out. 

OK... we don't normally post about moderator/admin actions, but I wanted to close the loop on this as it may effect other's hiring decisions...  I believe StarGZ/VictorXX are the provider, hungivyleaguexl.  In addition to these two accounts, I've associated them with 5 other accounts registered today that have been used to spam the forums.  
I believe these accounts were all created to promote/defend the provider.  I've removed all of the new accounts and in the process of hiding all of the spam messages posted by these two accounts.  Any content these two accounts post going forward will be hidden by default and subject to review by the moderators.  The only reason I have not flagged StarGZ and VictorXX as spammer accounts is that it would delete ALL content they've ever posted.  I feel their comments are worth leaving in this locked thread so that others can make their own judgement calls.
I also realize that the provider has had legitimate hires from within this community...  including several folks who are long term members of this site.  I don't discount those are real and positive interactions.  However I don't appreciate having to spend an hour of my day cleaning up hundreds of posts so that someone can try to use the site to artificially promote themselves.  

Note that the two verbose posters have similar post styles and joined the forum two days apart. Bumping other threads and offering comments like "he's hot", etc. does little to validate credibility. Predicting this thread will be shut down soon. 

interesting that half your comments on this website are just making these types of claims about this man….
and that all his defenders on here conspicuously use the exact same language and phrasing….
makes you wonder (i’ve personally seen him and would definitely not recommend)

Gold Pencil stuff!  I want to sign up for the creative writing class that StarGZ and hungivyleagueXL attended. 

When I joined this website about 2 years ago if my memory serves me well, I remember seeing the same photos posted on his site. Which, 2 years later have not been updated. Some photos are even from 2016 from what I’ve read earlier. I trust guys from this forum though.
I’m not looking for a prostate massage or any other type of massages. 
 
Is he a good top? Does he kiss? Does he cum? Is he a Clock watcher? Any intel would be appreciated. 
 
And why he has a new Rentmen ad when the last one had good reviews 

His website pics don't look recent
Beware

It's becoming incredibly tiresome how @StarGZ is spamming the forum with his (or their) hagiography of this escort. I had long ago decided that I would love to meet him and I'm unlikely to resile from that view but if I were not already convinced, his ceaseless adulation would make me doubt the wisdom of contacting Dean. A clingy succession of posts, each praising Dean more effusively than the last does nothing to help him. If he is as good as you say, and I don't doubt that he is, you will serve his interests better if you just STFU.