GeoMitch

Wouldn't it make sense for a massage therapist to just raise his fee and not accept tips? 

Just my 2 cents. Or what I do now.  
 
I’ve read and contributed to various “tipping” threads here in the forums throughout the 2-3 years since I’ve joined. 
I usually tip earlier when this hobby was new to me, but lately, it’s just the advertised/quoted rate now. 

I’m located in Los Angeles, if that matters. The $120/60min has ballooned (I started late 2021) to $150 (2022/2023) and now  $160/$180 and even $200 for your basic 60mins. 
At a spa… a masseur that does not advertise on RMasseur of Masseurfinder (or any other gay massage site) - I would tip them almost to the level of an independent. Since they get only a % of what I actually paid at the lobby. 
 
At a spa … but he advertises in M4M websites and all the independent sensual/erotic masseurs (real masseurs and the rub-and-tuggers) —- their published and quoted rates only.  

I have a good paying job but $180/$200 an hour … i am not a lawyer or a doctor or whatever job out there that pays this much per hour.  Rent and supplies, yes it’s the masseur’s overhead but for me (for me, my opinion)… the high price now is maybe due to inflation and it might be because I have paid $180-$200 for their $150 price tag then, which makes them energized to now basically pricing themselves at $200   Since they already get it and most are paying. 
 
long post made short - I only pay the independents their advertised/quoted price.

 
 

I think this goes back to the comment above by @OZP on whether the masseur and business owner are the same person. Traditionally in the USA, tips go to the waiters as their wages (sadly) and the business owners get the payment for food. Similarly for local masseurs who don't own their businesses, they get tips while their employers the the full payment for the massage. Now for those Masseurs on RentMasseurs or RentMen, that would be different because they're both the business owner and masseur. And if they're trying to provide bad service because you didn't tip them last time despite them getting the full advertised payment, I'd be happy to switch masseurs.

Independent masseurs should ask the price they wish to be paid for the services rendered. If the services exceed the advertised labor, a “tip” may very well be warranted. If not, the advertised fee is sufficient. This approach has always worked very well for me. 
 
Let’s not play games. 

Honestly, I wish that there were more top providers with smaller cocks.  It seems like everyone else is seeking to have their innards destroyed by tops equipped with cocks the size of baseball bats.  Personally, I'd like to walk away in one piece.  I'd be more apt to hire a top with 5 1/2 inches over 9... but that's just me.  

Honestly, I wish that there were more top providers with smaller cocks.  It seems like everyone else is seeking to have their innards destroyed by tops equipped with cocks the size of baseball bats.  Personally, I'd like to walk away in one piece.  I'd be more apt to hire a top with 5 1/2 inches over 9... but that's just me.  

Honestly, I wish that there were more top providers with smaller cocks.  It seems like everyone else is seeking to have their innards destroyed by tops equipped with cocks the size of baseball bats.  Personally, I'd like to walk away in one piece.  I'd be more apt to hire a top with 5 1/2 inches over 9... but that's just me.  

Honestly, I wish that there were more top providers with smaller cocks.  It seems like everyone else is seeking to have their innards destroyed by tops equipped with cocks the size of baseball bats.  Personally, I'd like to walk away in one piece.  I'd be more apt to hire a top with 5 1/2 inches over 9... but that's just me.  

I follow Jake Deckard on Instagram; I had a couple of memorable massages from him in LA and I believe he did some escort work too.

V A L E N T I N O 

Probably an unusual subject - but I rarely bottom so looking for some tops more on the gentle or average side. Or at least not going to go at it like a jackhammer. 🫠
Any recommendations? 

When is the new review site going to go live?  I'm looking forward to it.  Is there a date set?
 

When is the new review site going to go live?  I'm looking forward to it.  Is there a date set?
 

And Arpad Miklos RIP.

We had an appointment Monday afternoon. Didn't hear from him for most of the day until 20 mins after our schedule time where he said he was still stuck at work and wanted to re-arrange for the evening. I passed.
In general communication was bad and it seemed RM messenger is the better way of speaking to him via text (which went unanswered). 

If a provider chooses to no longer be available for new clients, that’s his choice and his choice alone. Apollo is a great guy and as @big-n-tall states, if he chooses not to interact with new clients, that is his right. I know a number of great escorts I spent wonderful evenings with who have retired over the years I have been hiring, but if they want to move on with their private lives, I continue to wish them all the best, simply treasuring my memories of our great times together.
There are also a few escorts about whom I’ve read glowing reviews and exciting reports and wished I might have experienced. I am sorry that they retired before I could see them, but I would never try to contact them. I communicated directly with Apollo asking him (at the request of a hopeful new client who DM’d me) what his policy regarding new clients was, and he said directly that he no longer accepts new clients.
TruHart1 😎

OK... we don't normally post about moderator/admin actions, but I wanted to close the loop on this as it may effect other's hiring decisions...  I believe StarGZ/VictorXX are the provider, hungivyleaguexl.  In addition to these two accounts, I've associated them with 5 other accounts registered today that have been used to spam the forums.  
I believe these accounts were all created to promote/defend the provider.  I've removed all of the new accounts and in the process of hiding all of the spam messages posted by these two accounts.  Any content these two accounts post going forward will be hidden by default and subject to review by the moderators.  The only reason I have not flagged StarGZ and VictorXX as spammer accounts is that it would delete ALL content they've ever posted.  I feel their comments are worth leaving in this locked thread so that others can make their own judgement calls.
I also realize that the provider has had legitimate hires from within this community...  including several folks who are long term members of this site.  I don't discount those are real and positive interactions.  However I don't appreciate having to spend an hour of my day cleaning up hundreds of posts so that someone can try to use the site to artificially promote themselves.  

There may or may not also be 4 different unique IP addresses have have been used by the two accounts.  One of those accounts has reported over a dozen different posts but only in threads about this one provider.  
I don't know if those accounts belong to the provider itself or if it is someone who is just an absolute adoring fan.  In either case, they've made their opinions known.  
@azdr0710 apparently has his crystal ball in good working order...

It's time to go out for pizza!  This thread is going to join the other in the land of locked posts.  

I’m 6’ tall and 195 fairly solid lbs, but his 6’4” and 245 lbs makes me feel like a toddler — I find the size difference SMOKING hot.

I haven’t been with Apollo since before COVID, so I’ve set up an overnight with him next week. He sends me pics all the time and he is incredibly huge!

I feel very, very lucky to be one of the guys keeping Apollo Phoenix busy these days. If anything, he’s in better shape now than when he was competing, and his sheer size and physical presence, and quality of his physique, blows me away every time I see him. The longer I know him, the more I appreciate his adventurous nature, and utterly filthy mind! He’s also a good and supportive buddy, always willing to advise me on my training and goals. A total sweetheart, as well as a gigantic hulking anatomically-correct action figure!

Client just brought him into my place.  I wouldn't call it an abundance of personality.
Kevin Slater

I didn’t know that 8 comments on a person constituted a critical mass. Gee. I thought more input was better. Silly me. 

Curious to know whether the review idea is still active, since it was first floated six months ago. A complex project for sure!

I am curious about that myself. The whole 411 thing just isn't as good (but still better than nothing).