purplekow

You are right. Disease and dying are scary and dangerous. Economic hardship well, scary for some and mostly dangerous for those who want more than their share. So who is confused? But, as far as I know, death is permanent as are the real deficits that people who survive suffer. Your arrogance about other people's health issues is shared by many, mostly those in the 1%. By the way, you may not be able to work, but you personally can come and feed Covid patient's at the hospital, they could use the help and it seems you are anxious to work. And you are right that the post War Boom was a driving force and so were public works and government support for education. Quite Frankly, I do not think anyone was saying, you know, well 85 million dead over 5 years but the economy is doing well. You do seem content to say 100000 in the US are dead and I am good with that as long as I can go out to lunch and the government does not go further into debt. But if the government goes further into debt, taxes will go up. You know whose taxes will go up? Everyone's including the 1% who taxes just got slashed. So pretend that opening the economy is for the little guy, when the ones who stand to lose the most financially are the ones that have the most. Give back the big giveaway including the tax breaks on real estate going back two years and there will be more than enough money for equipment just perhaps a smaller market for expensive shoes and private jets. And yes, people will pay more taxes. Oh...scary and dangerous. You are right.

History: Spanish influenza. 15 million dead. Great Depression: Economy destroyed 1950. Economy booming 15 million. Still dead. Economic turmoil is real. It just is not permanent.

I guess certain diseases are more important to some then others. Right now, as I have to go in an treat patients dying of this disease, they do not think it is nothing. Just as in 1983 when I went in to treat patients with AIDS and people were ignoring it, they did not feel it was nothing though they did think the deniers thought the victims were nothing. They said it only killed gays or it only killed the right people. Your post is so callous and so dismissive and really downright cruel. Hopefully you will not get this acute disease that so far, does not let the people live until there is a truly successful treatment. We are doing better with the people that are getting very sick. Some of them only stay in the hospital for a week or two. But hey, two weeks of gasping for breath out of lifetime is nothing,. And that is 100000 in the US with social isolation, the toll would be much higher otherwise and the worldwide total is going to be more than a million. But hey out of 7 billion, one million is nothing to you I guess. Bury you head in the sand Ozzie Ostrich.

Again spin this as you will, 100000 people are dead. More are dying every day. That people die of other things is a specious argument. Fear, well directed is protective. There is no way ignorance is well directed. So if you want to say, people will die but the economy is more important then you can have that thought. But do not say washing hands and a mask is enough. Or even, I don't bother with a mask because the president doent. Ultimately all any of us can do is to try and protect ourselves as best we can because there are lots of people out there who are not interested in protecting us, and that includes the president. Keep spinning and hope you do not wind up spinning in your grave That is the example being sent by a man looking to get reelected.

Am getting both antibody and regular test tomorrow, but would need another test in two weeks if these show no active disease and no antibodies. It is disconcerting to sit here feeling perfectly well knowing it is possible that there is already a virus in my system which could potentially end my life. I was tested for HIV in the past and the first time I was nervous but even with that I knew it was something that would eventually make me ill. This is more a Mack truck hitting, when it hits. Having seen what can happen, first hand multiple times to people in much better shape than I am and people with much fewer risk factors, it rumbles the foundation of the philosophy that tomorrow is another day. Now it is tomorrow is another day but is it another day for me. The benefit and the curse of this is, there is no control over what will happen at this time, Eventually perhaps the course can be altered, but right now, it is just sit and wait. One other benefit, I was starting to get very horny and was playing with the idea of perhaps hiring down the road. I think this news has taken every last drop of testosterone out of my system.

Thanks for you good wishes

Well life has a way of surprising you. After four straight months of patient care of Covid patients, I was changed to an educational and administrative rotation for two weeks, When that two week rotation ended on Saturday, I felt pretty good. I had not been exposed to Covid patients for 2 weeks and I was generally feeling well, so I was ready to start my next rotation. Saturday and Sunday I was on call for uninsured patients and I had about 12 patients in the hospital. Only two of the patients were known Covid patients. Both of them had come in with other complaints and in the ER, evaluation lead to the patient being tested and found to be positive for Covid. By the time I started, they were well known to be Covid patients with an unusual presentation. What now are routine precautions were in place. Then yesterday, one of the patients on my service, a young man with a congenital disease and who was non communicative became sicker than he had been. He had come in from his group home with a single episode of vomiting but because he has had issues related to this in the past and because he had some minimal lab abnormalities, he was admitted. He did fine for the first 48 hours but he then was unable to eat and he needed a CT scan. A tube was placed in his stomach to give him the contrast material as he would not or could not swallow the contrast. Surpisingly, there was blood in his stomach and the tube placement irritated him enough that he reached up and grabbed the tube and pulled it out. This set into motion a vomiting episode which produced about a quart of blood. The bloody vomit coated the room and several people in it. I called each of his parents about this and informed them of the events and let them know that he was stable. At that point, one of the parents informed me that they had Covid and that they had likely gotten it after a prolonged stay an ER with the patient two months ago. However, clearing of the virus had been slow. That parent had still been positive last week. With this new information and with multiple person exposure from the vomit. I ordered Covid testing on the patient who had no signs of Covid. Today the results came back positive for Covid. Since masks and hand washing are not enough, the patient was moved to isolation and from now on will be seen with caretakers in personal protective equipment. In addition, all those exposed to him, the vomit and the room, are now being quarantined. So that one patient has exposed approximately 30 people directly just in the hospital and it is unclear how many in his group home and how many more indirectly. That stay in the ER which made his mother positive, probably made him positive. And just his branch has affected 30 more. How many branches are there off that one ER exposure is unclear. How many people will actually get Covid is yet to be determined. Fortunately, I have not gone out to a restaurant, to a movie, to the beach that opened here in NJ. I always wear a mask outside of my home. I feel confident that if I was exposed through this, that at least, I have not exposed others, to the best of my ability to limit it. So somewhere else, someone is talking about .05% of their local population having tested positive. as an argument to open Well, as in this case, not everyone is tested, not everyone who tests positive tells you they have and not every exposure is limited to the one person who has it. It is my sincere hope that I have not been exposed and infected. It is my sincere hope that if I was exposed that I have not exposed others. It is likely that if I was exposed and was infected, that I will be in the group that have mild cases. If I am not, I hope that I am in the group of more severe cases that get better without hospitalization, also likely. If I am in the group that gets hospitalized, I hope I am not one of the ones who goes to the ICU, about 60 60. If I go to the ICU, I hope I am one of the ones who is not placed on a ventilator, 40-60. Should I be on the ventilator, I hope I am the one in five that survives it. If not, this thread will memorialize my passing. Now, tell me why you need your haircut. Is it worth it to get a manicure to face a world of so many ifs. Why would you not respect others and yourself more than risking your life because you are bored. Why shouldn't your government to try and protect you? I know there is likely exposure to the virus now, even with precautions in place. Why would you want to increase your risk. Why would you want to possibly place yourself in the position in which I find myself.

I did not ask about your insurance. I asked if your life changed not your life insurance. lol

You can't catch pancreatic cancer. It can be cured but usually isn't. You can catch Covid. It can be deadly, it usually isn't except when it is. 100000 Americans can't attest to that. Many more worldwide would do the same if they could. And tomorrow there will be more. Again. spin it all you want. The bottom line is you can say it is not deadly but there are plenty of people dead and more coming. . Just out of curiosity, have you changed your life because of this pandemic or is it for you just as it was last year at this time?

But I bet if you would have crossed them you would have looked, because it was the prudent thing to do. Similarly, I would bet you are not visiting any South Dakota meat factories, because it would not be the prudent. Why not do the prudent thing rather than the expedient thing. Why not put people first, especially those people who are at the greatest risk. If Mr. Trump wants to open the country, why not start with resuming tours of the White House. Perhaps because it is nice and safe not to have hundreds of people clamoring through. If he did, even he might have to wear a mask. If masks and hand washing was enough, I would not have to put a full gown and face shield and gloves every time I went in.

Just curious would you hire a woman bodybuilder such as Bev Francis to dominate you or does there have to be a penis in there somewhere?

The second season was un but not as much fun as the first.

A better analogy would be this is why you do not cross the street without looking. It is the without looking part you are ignoring.

And the other 100000 people. in the US and the others around the world. I see them die every day, this is not an isolated case no matter how you want to spin it. It is a long painful breathless struggle before a ventilator and gradual deterioration, Even people that don't die are in the hospital for weeks. You chose not to live in fear but rather in fantasy.

I guess in a country that constitutionally allows 40000 deaths a year by gun violence so the big guns and the NRA can have lavish lifestyles, 365000 a year (yes 1/10 of 1 per cent is still 365000 deaths a year no matter how you try to minimize it) is acceptable for big businesses which can withstand an absentee rate for 7% for weeks at a time. Small business probably would sink under such a burden, Well it is acceptable as long as the people who are dying are old, poor and chronically ill. I this was a disease striking corporate board rooms, there may be a different feeling about it. Statistics are impersonal, even death and dying statistic. Death and dying however, are very personal and if you are personally affected, your thoughts about this are probably colored by it. Ultimately to some of the people here, this is all about money and dollars and to others it is about lives and death. As a result this will continue to be debated because it is clearly a case of comparing apples a day to orange man in the White House.

"I am going to win the election". Said Hillary before being trumped "I believe the way out is that way" he said pointedly "Time to send people back to work" said trump contagiously

Got a call today from the woman who cleans for me on an infrequent basis. We made arrangements for her to come to my house while I was out. I will have been gone for several hours before she arrives. She will use gloves and a mask that I provide. She will leave several hours before I return home, She has been staying home for the most part except for shopping, so I feel the risk is minimal. The amount of time between out being in the house should be long to allow the dust to settle and the virus, if it is in the house at all, to have become inactive. In addition, I have a room in my home with a separate entrance from the backyard, This room is rarely used except as a nice guest room. No one has been in the room in weeks, so I will probably stay in that room overnight,

For a guy who goes by bootybuilder, his pics on roentgen.eu have only two pictures which feature it and one is from a distance and the other ihis ass is hidden in the shadows. If he has a great ass, which has been written here, then someone ought to tell him to put the goods on display.

With your well known frugality I am surprised you can afford yourself or that you would work for someone who pays so little

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-dcola-015&hsimp=yhs-015&hspart=dcola&p=My+best+friend%27s+wedding+I+say+a+little+prayer#id=2&vid=2a301ac87254f4a080522c3133376e4f&action=click Really not a good movie but this scene is entertaining

Change is inevitable. This one was for the better IMO

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrEeSR6fsBe9wQAqDUPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTEyZmpqcmN1BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQzAxNjNfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=isn't+it+ironic&fr=yhs-dcola-015&hspart=dcola&hsimp=yhs-015#id=1&vid=a266474f724421982a96ebddd7763a02&action=view. I am still confused as to whether she does not know the meaning of ironic or if the irony is that the song is not ironic. A debate for the ages perhaps but not a song I ever want to hear again. Isn't THAT Ironic.

You did but that thumb was misplaced. It was meant for another,. Sorry to disappoint,

I get knocked down but I get up again. Anthem for the 21st century

Usually people are in nursing homes because they cannot be cared for at home of the family is unwilling to care for them at home. That should have changed a bit with so many people out of work and more people at home to care for their elderly relatives. But caring for elderly relatives is a challenge under the best of circumstances and If your relative is demented and unable to control their bowels and babbling endlessly, the challenge becomes too much for some. Culturally, in many countries, it is a dishonor to place an elderly person in a facility. It was in my family when I was a boy. Now, it is more the norm in the US rather than the exception. As such, the reality is there will be people in nursing homes. The good ones will take good care of their patients and their staff. The bad ones, have perhaps gotten worse in this crisis, but they were likely bad all the time. In the hospitals in my area, Mother's Day is one of the busiest days for admissions. Long neglectful children go to Nursing Homes and despite the efforts of the NH to cover up faults, the children find out a lot of what is going on with their patents and are shocked and guilty. They are appalled and get the parent brought to the hospital. This is not every patient, this is not every nursing home, but it happens often. The perfect storm of sick or demented patient, neglectful family and poor NH allows substandard care to thrive. Add in a pandemic which feasts on the sick and elderly and you have our situation now.