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At my age it's about 5 mins, give or take....

For me, the entire hour is interactive, but a significant chunk of it is verbally interactive. At least, that's my client perspective and probably just my personality quirk. Foreplay for me is communication and making some connection, however limited. That's also probably why I don't typically do 1-hour sessions. It's not enough time for me.

I never objected to "diving right in," if I can use a play on words. Sometimes it was "open door, take a quick look, and lock lips."
 
That said, I didn't rely on the internet back then, so I already had a "feel" (forgive this play on words, too) of who I was with and what was expected before we went back to his place, a hotel room, etc. These days when you've never met -- much less seen -- each other first, I imagine that there is a bit more "meet and greet" time included...which means less time for the fun stuff.

I'd say "if" sex does happen since it doesn't always happen that after initial introduction and other parts that it's probably about 20 minutes +/- some. This doesn't include the foreplay.
 
Keenan

it's not standard and depends on a regular escort versus a first time meet. With a regular escort I would say 30 to 45 minutes of sex. No need to chat until after we've had out fun. With a first timer need to chat a bit because sometimes texting and working out what we both "enjoy" takes a bit of time to work out. But I've been shocked when it's "magic" and it's nice chemistry and heat and things flow organically that's awesome.

My encounters are usually like:
10 minute conversation
5 minute shower
25 minute foreplay and sex
5 minute shower again
2 minutes for putting on shoes and saying goodbye

Followup to my message #8 and #16:
 
Kerry and I finally got together yesterday. He offered me extra time to atone for his no-show and we went way over that agreement.
 
We talked a lot and connected on multiple levels. which elevated our encounter beyond the ordinary. He more than made up for the previous problem and deserves his litany of praises.
 
I hope to add to the chorus of positive reviews at Daddy's soon.

Kerry Slate is back and time to activate this thread again! And he’s in LA this week and meeting him in 3 days! We had some private moments last April at the Adonis nude party and it was great to see him back!
https://rent.men/Kerryslate

Followup to my message #8 and #16:
 
Kerry and I finally got together yesterday. He offered me extra time to atone for his no-show and we went way over that agreement.
 
We talked a lot and connected on multiple levels. which elevated our encounter beyond the ordinary. He more than made up for the previous problem and deserves his litany of praises.
 
I hope to add to the chorus of positive reviews at Daddy's soon.

First, Kerry, my condolences on your loss.
 
Second, I'm happily surprised that you apologized publicly and in a private email to me. It shows that your rep for being a class act is well-deserved, and reflects more of who you are than the unannounced no-show, which was a big puzzle to me and everyone else here.
 
I wholeheartedly accept your apology and offer. Let's continue our talk via email.
 
And thanks to everyone here who offered support and balanced views on all sides. My apologies for hijacking this thread with my previous incident.
 
Hopefully, I'll have good things to add here about Kerry but that may take a few weeks or so, given my schedule.
 
And, as latbear4blk suggested, it may involve some roleplay to soothe ruffled feathers
 
*** Please check out followup on message 50.

Looking for muscle recommendations in Los Angeles for around Jun 19 to Jun 25.
 
Must haves:
- Very muscular to bodybuilder types.
- Deep kissing and mutual oral.
 
Ripped muscle and sensitive nips would be great.
 
Feel free to PM.
 
And yes, I already know about Kerry Slate, an excellent hire.
 
Thanks in advance.

Sounds like you & Aaron would make a good match.....(his nips are what one might proverbially call "hot-wired".....& w/me at least, an enthusiastic kisser & I don't imagine that I'm the only one)
 
https://rent.men/MuscleGrip

Here's another vote for @tristanbaldwin for whom kissing is a necessary and major part of his encounters.

Here's another vote for @tristanbaldwin for whom kissing is a necessary and major part of his encounters.

You need to get on their mailing list (by signing up for free). They then send you info occasionally and who is available for hire.

The video is called Body Worship 39 with Talvin DeMachio and Rocky. Produced by BG Enterprise who also did several wrestling and body worship videos. This was all in the 1980s and 1990s, and so pre-dates Can-Am and BG East.
 
The vids are floating around the Internet although they're trying to re-release them slowly as "new" at bgwrestlemax.com.
 
This is supposedly part 2 of the video:
http://www.gayporno.fm/body-worship-39-part-2_500350.html
 
They also did a wrestling vid together called Fantasy Oil Wrestling 4 for the same company:
https://www.gayforit.eu/video/154307/Fantasy-Oil-Wrestling-4
https://www.gayforit.eu/video/227466/Talvin-Demachio--Rocky--Fantasy-Oil-Wrestling-4-Part-2
 
 

I was an on-again/off-again gym goer in my 20s but would always stop after a few weeks because of boredom. Eventually, I quit doing any exercise. By the time I turned 50, my body showed the ill effects of inactivity.
 
It wasn't pretty plus I had to take pills for high cholesterol.
 
So I started Crossfit at 50. Couldn't even finish the warmup, which was to run around an industrial building three times. Halfway through the second time, I stopped and felt like throwing up. Spent about half an hour by myself in the parking lot trying to recover, completely missing the training workout.
 
The coach came out to check on me a few times to be sure that I was okay. When I went home, I wrote the gym owner and said that Crossfit was too tough for me. She wrote me back twice that week and said that it's normal to have issues at first. But they would work with me and scale the workouts to my level. And I would get better. She wanted me to give them another try.
 
So after a week, I went back and they did what they said they would.
 
It was a long and exhausting road. But eight years later, I'm still doing Crossfit three days a week, only missing a session when I'm on vacation or sick. I lost 30 pounds in the first four months (with the Paleo diet -- no carbs) and after about a year, ditched the cholesterol pills. I can now run a mile without stopping, do Olympic lifts, and climb a rope (slowly).
 
Competed in my first Crossfit competition, a local one, many years ago -- came in close to last place for my age group. This year, I finished my second global Crossfit Open and moved up to the middle of the pack worldwide in my age group.
 
After decades of being an overweight nerd, I've turned into a jock in my fifties.
 
I've stuck with Crossfit because of the variety: every workout is different so I'm never bored. My entire body gets a workout. There's also a lot of camaraderie with the 20-somethings who finish the workout first encouraging people like me who usually finish last. Since each workout is a class, everybody knows everybody else's name, and tries to integrate newcomers as quickly as possible. The coaches are on our case if we try to do too much or too little.
 
At the highest levels, Crossfit is no harder than doing any sport. I'm never going to compete at the Crossfit Games on TV but fitness runners won't be running for the Olympics and weekend basketball players won't be playing for the NBA.
 
Critics usually forget to mention that, as someone here has already stated, all workouts are scalable. Which is how a senior citizen beginner who may be lifting with a plastic pipe works out at the same time as a college jock who is breaking personal barbell records. We've had pregnant women working out until 2-3 weeks before giving birth and then coming back four weeks after. No mom-bods for these ladies.
 
Our latest member is around 72 and in just a couple of months, he's gone from being barely able to move to lifting light weights, rowing, biking, and doing pushups. He'll probably be joining our mile runs in a few months.
 
To me the worst thing about Crossfit is not the difficulty -- everybody who sticks with it, no matter their physical shape when they started, eventually ends up doing the workouts. It's the cost: $150 a month is average for my area (SoCal). It's higher in other places.
 
If you want to try Crossfit -- checkout several boxes. Nearly all will let you do one beginner workout for free. Like anything else, some affiliates are better than others. I had to try out five gyms before settling on my current one.

I was an on-again/off-again gym goer in my 20s but would always stop after a few weeks because of boredom. Eventually, I quit doing any exercise. By the time I turned 50, my body showed the ill effects of inactivity.
 
It wasn't pretty plus I had to take pills for high cholesterol.
 
So I started Crossfit at 50. Couldn't even finish the warmup, which was to run around an industrial building three times. Halfway through the second time, I stopped and felt like throwing up. Spent about half an hour by myself in the parking lot trying to recover, completely missing the training workout.
 
The coach came out to check on me a few times to be sure that I was okay. When I went home, I wrote the gym owner and said that Crossfit was too tough for me. She wrote me back twice that week and said that it's normal to have issues at first. But they would work with me and scale the workouts to my level. And I would get better. She wanted me to give them another try.
 
So after a week, I went back and they did what they said they would.
 
It was a long and exhausting road. But eight years later, I'm still doing Crossfit three days a week, only missing a session when I'm on vacation or sick. I lost 30 pounds in the first four months (with the Paleo diet -- no carbs) and after about a year, ditched the cholesterol pills. I can now run a mile without stopping, do Olympic lifts, and climb a rope (slowly).
 
Competed in my first Crossfit competition, a local one, many years ago -- came in close to last place for my age group. This year, I finished my second global Crossfit Open and moved up to the middle of the pack worldwide in my age group.
 
After decades of being an overweight nerd, I've turned into a jock in my fifties.
 
I've stuck with Crossfit because of the variety: every workout is different so I'm never bored. My entire body gets a workout. There's also a lot of camaraderie with the 20-somethings who finish the workout first encouraging people like me who usually finish last. Since each workout is a class, everybody knows everybody else's name, and tries to integrate newcomers as quickly as possible. The coaches are on our case if we try to do too much or too little.
 
At the highest levels, Crossfit is no harder than doing any sport. I'm never going to compete at the Crossfit Games on TV but fitness runners won't be running for the Olympics and weekend basketball players won't be playing for the NBA.
 
Critics usually forget to mention that, as someone here has already stated, all workouts are scalable. Which is how a senior citizen beginner who may be lifting with a plastic pipe works out at the same time as a college jock who is breaking personal barbell records. We've had pregnant women working out until 2-3 weeks before giving birth and then coming back four weeks after. No mom-bods for these ladies.
 
Our latest member is around 72 and in just a couple of months, he's gone from being barely able to move to lifting light weights, rowing, biking, and doing pushups. He'll probably be joining our mile runs in a few months.
 
To me the worst thing about Crossfit is not the difficulty -- everybody who sticks with it, no matter their physical shape when they started, eventually ends up doing the workouts. It's the cost: $150 a month is average for my area (SoCal). It's higher in other places.
 
If you want to try Crossfit -- checkout several boxes. Nearly all will let you do one beginner workout for free. Like anything else, some affiliates are better than others. I had to try out five gyms before settling on my current one.

Nice summary on the positive aspects of CrossFit. It's never going to work for me because it is too structured. I'm fortunate that I have a job where I can slip out for a couple hours mid-morning and get in a workout, but I have to be flexible, so having to be at a specific place at a specific time is never going to work for me. I also enjoy the solitary aspect of working out, but if camaraderie is a motivator for someone, I don't think anyone does it better than CrossFit.

I was an on-again/off-again gym goer in my 20s but would always stop after a few weeks because of boredom. Eventually, I quit doing any exercise. By the time I turned 50, my body showed the ill effects of inactivity.
 
It wasn't pretty plus I had to take pills for high cholesterol.
 
So I started Crossfit at 50. Couldn't even finish the warmup, which was to run around an industrial building three times. Halfway through the second time, I stopped and felt like throwing up. Spent about half an hour by myself in the parking lot trying to recover, completely missing the training workout.
 
The coach came out to check on me a few times to be sure that I was okay. When I went home, I wrote the gym owner and said that Crossfit was too tough for me. She wrote me back twice that week and said that it's normal to have issues at first. But they would work with me and scale the workouts to my level. And I would get better. She wanted me to give them another try.
 
So after a week, I went back and they did what they said they would.
 
It was a long and exhausting road. But eight years later, I'm still doing Crossfit three days a week, only missing a session when I'm on vacation or sick. I lost 30 pounds in the first four months (with the Paleo diet -- no carbs) and after about a year, ditched the cholesterol pills. I can now run a mile without stopping, do Olympic lifts, and climb a rope (slowly).
 
Competed in my first Crossfit competition, a local one, many years ago -- came in close to last place for my age group. This year, I finished my second global Crossfit Open and moved up to the middle of the pack worldwide in my age group.
 
After decades of being an overweight nerd, I've turned into a jock in my fifties.
 
I've stuck with Crossfit because of the variety: every workout is different so I'm never bored. My entire body gets a workout. There's also a lot of camaraderie with the 20-somethings who finish the workout first encouraging people like me who usually finish last. Since each workout is a class, everybody knows everybody else's name, and tries to integrate newcomers as quickly as possible. The coaches are on our case if we try to do too much or too little.
 
At the highest levels, Crossfit is no harder than doing any sport. I'm never going to compete at the Crossfit Games on TV but fitness runners won't be running for the Olympics and weekend basketball players won't be playing for the NBA.
 
Critics usually forget to mention that, as someone here has already stated, all workouts are scalable. Which is how a senior citizen beginner who may be lifting with a plastic pipe works out at the same time as a college jock who is breaking personal barbell records. We've had pregnant women working out until 2-3 weeks before giving birth and then coming back four weeks after. No mom-bods for these ladies.
 
Our latest member is around 72 and in just a couple of months, he's gone from being barely able to move to lifting light weights, rowing, biking, and doing pushups. He'll probably be joining our mile runs in a few months.
 
To me the worst thing about Crossfit is not the difficulty -- everybody who sticks with it, no matter their physical shape when they started, eventually ends up doing the workouts. It's the cost: $150 a month is average for my area (SoCal). It's higher in other places.
 
If you want to try Crossfit -- checkout several boxes. Nearly all will let you do one beginner workout for free. Like anything else, some affiliates are better than others. I had to try out five gyms before settling on my current one.

I was an on-again/off-again gym goer in my 20s but would always stop after a few weeks because of boredom. Eventually, I quit doing any exercise. By the time I turned 50, my body showed the ill effects of inactivity.
 
It wasn't pretty plus I had to take pills for high cholesterol.
 
So I started Crossfit at 50. Couldn't even finish the warmup, which was to run around an industrial building three times. Halfway through the second time, I stopped and felt like throwing up. Spent about half an hour by myself in the parking lot trying to recover, completely missing the training workout.
 
The coach came out to check on me a few times to be sure that I was okay. When I went home, I wrote the gym owner and said that Crossfit was too tough for me. She wrote me back twice that week and said that it's normal to have issues at first. But they would work with me and scale the workouts to my level. And I would get better. She wanted me to give them another try.
 
So after a week, I went back and they did what they said they would.
 
It was a long and exhausting road. But eight years later, I'm still doing Crossfit three days a week, only missing a session when I'm on vacation or sick. I lost 30 pounds in the first four months (with the Paleo diet -- no carbs) and after about a year, ditched the cholesterol pills. I can now run a mile without stopping, do Olympic lifts, and climb a rope (slowly).
 
Competed in my first Crossfit competition, a local one, many years ago -- came in close to last place for my age group. This year, I finished my second global Crossfit Open and moved up to the middle of the pack worldwide in my age group.
 
After decades of being an overweight nerd, I've turned into a jock in my fifties.
 
I've stuck with Crossfit because of the variety: every workout is different so I'm never bored. My entire body gets a workout. There's also a lot of camaraderie with the 20-somethings who finish the workout first encouraging people like me who usually finish last. Since each workout is a class, everybody knows everybody else's name, and tries to integrate newcomers as quickly as possible. The coaches are on our case if we try to do too much or too little.
 
At the highest levels, Crossfit is no harder than doing any sport. I'm never going to compete at the Crossfit Games on TV but fitness runners won't be running for the Olympics and weekend basketball players won't be playing for the NBA.
 
Critics usually forget to mention that, as someone here has already stated, all workouts are scalable. Which is how a senior citizen beginner who may be lifting with a plastic pipe works out at the same time as a college jock who is breaking personal barbell records. We've had pregnant women working out until 2-3 weeks before giving birth and then coming back four weeks after. No mom-bods for these ladies.
 
Our latest member is around 72 and in just a couple of months, he's gone from being barely able to move to lifting light weights, rowing, biking, and doing pushups. He'll probably be joining our mile runs in a few months.
 
To me the worst thing about Crossfit is not the difficulty -- everybody who sticks with it, no matter their physical shape when they started, eventually ends up doing the workouts. It's the cost: $150 a month is average for my area (SoCal). It's higher in other places.
 
If you want to try Crossfit -- checkout several boxes. Nearly all will let you do one beginner workout for free. Like anything else, some affiliates are better than others. I had to try out five gyms before settling on my current one.

I was an on-again/off-again gym goer in my 20s but would always stop after a few weeks because of boredom. Eventually, I quit doing any exercise. By the time I turned 50, my body showed the ill effects of inactivity.
 
It wasn't pretty plus I had to take pills for high cholesterol.
 
So I started Crossfit at 50. Couldn't even finish the warmup, which was to run around an industrial building three times. Halfway through the second time, I stopped and felt like throwing up. Spent about half an hour by myself in the parking lot trying to recover, completely missing the training workout.
 
The coach came out to check on me a few times to be sure that I was okay. When I went home, I wrote the gym owner and said that Crossfit was too tough for me. She wrote me back twice that week and said that it's normal to have issues at first. But they would work with me and scale the workouts to my level. And I would get better. She wanted me to give them another try.
 
So after a week, I went back and they did what they said they would.
 
It was a long and exhausting road. But eight years later, I'm still doing Crossfit three days a week, only missing a session when I'm on vacation or sick. I lost 30 pounds in the first four months (with the Paleo diet -- no carbs) and after about a year, ditched the cholesterol pills. I can now run a mile without stopping, do Olympic lifts, and climb a rope (slowly).
 
Competed in my first Crossfit competition, a local one, many years ago -- came in close to last place for my age group. This year, I finished my second global Crossfit Open and moved up to the middle of the pack worldwide in my age group.
 
After decades of being an overweight nerd, I've turned into a jock in my fifties.
 
I've stuck with Crossfit because of the variety: every workout is different so I'm never bored. My entire body gets a workout. There's also a lot of camaraderie with the 20-somethings who finish the workout first encouraging people like me who usually finish last. Since each workout is a class, everybody knows everybody else's name, and tries to integrate newcomers as quickly as possible. The coaches are on our case if we try to do too much or too little.
 
At the highest levels, Crossfit is no harder than doing any sport. I'm never going to compete at the Crossfit Games on TV but fitness runners won't be running for the Olympics and weekend basketball players won't be playing for the NBA.
 
Critics usually forget to mention that, as someone here has already stated, all workouts are scalable. Which is how a senior citizen beginner who may be lifting with a plastic pipe works out at the same time as a college jock who is breaking personal barbell records. We've had pregnant women working out until 2-3 weeks before giving birth and then coming back four weeks after. No mom-bods for these ladies.
 
Our latest member is around 72 and in just a couple of months, he's gone from being barely able to move to lifting light weights, rowing, biking, and doing pushups. He'll probably be joining our mile runs in a few months.
 
To me the worst thing about Crossfit is not the difficulty -- everybody who sticks with it, no matter their physical shape when they started, eventually ends up doing the workouts. It's the cost: $150 a month is average for my area (SoCal). It's higher in other places.
 
If you want to try Crossfit -- checkout several boxes. Nearly all will let you do one beginner workout for free. Like anything else, some affiliates are better than others. I had to try out five gyms before settling on my current one.

I'm thrilled you're moving west. I hope your dad follows suit.

I'm thrilled you're moving west. I hope your dad follows suit.

Anybody around here have any experience with this guy: https://rentmen.eu/SupremeFantasy