Guys who can't perform

[caliguy]

Ummmmm. Not exactly, I was disappointed, but not because I sat there with my arms crossed tapping my foot waiting for them to get off! LOL! I don't know ANYONE who could perform under those circumstances. I was disappointed because promises were made and not kept.

As a top I've had my share of bottoms that got real bitchy when things didn't work that well. Hey it happens to the best of us. That's why I probably let this get too personal. Lol

 

However, yes. If promises were made then some kind of solution should be made like having him come back for half or no charge when he's in better form.

Edited May 21, 2018 by caliguy

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

As a top I've had my share of bottoms that got real bitchy when things didn't work that well. Hey it happens to the best of us. That's why I probably let this get too personal. Lol

 

However, yes. If promises were made then some kind of solution should be made like having him come back for half or no charge when he's in better form.

LOL! As a rather bossy bottom, I admit I've left a few encounters huffing in frustration! But those were all personal encounters with non professionals.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

It's not us you should be discussing this with. It's him.

 

Have an open discussion as to it happening and that you don't think you should pay a full rate. Bringing it up here, as it's been brought up dozens of times before, will only garner a ton of random opinions and no real consensus.

[tenderloin]

It's not us you should be discussing this with. It's him.

 

Have an open discussion as to it happening and that you don't think you should pay a full rate. Bringing it up here, as it's been brought up dozens of times before, will only garner a ton of random opinions and no real consensus.

 

I disagree, Ben. I for one don't come here for consensus, but I do come here to learn other viewpoints and perspectives, and to sense-check my own perspectives. Reading the range of opinion has, over the years, been frequently entertaining, occasionally frustrating, but almost always enlightening.

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

It's not us you should be discussing this with. It's him.

 

Have an open discussion as to it happening and that you don't think you should pay a full rate. Bringing it up here, as it's been brought up dozens of times before, will only garner a ton of random opinions and no real consensus.

I agree that an open discussion is best. I specifically wanted to discuss it with the forum to see what other people have done.

Ultimately I’m responsible for setting clear expectations upfront and saying something about it when they’re not fulfilled.

Consensus is the last thing I was looking for. This is the forum, after all.

[Nickf66]

I saw a local escort about a half-dozen times a few years ago. He was in his early 30s, good shape, and always was able to cum almost on demand. It was wonderful. But then he started delaying his climax, and i thought he was just wanting to lengthen our session. Not so much. Apparently, his client load increased and by my late afternoon visit, he was totally spent. So the next time this happened, i suggested we take a break and have a drink, or two. We resumed our session by my giving him a nice relaxing massage. I also pulled up his favorite porn site on my phone, and with his preferred genre of activity. He quickly became aroused with his face glued to the film. And voila! Suck-sess.

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

I saw a local escort about a half-dozen times a few years ago. He was in his early 30s, good shape, and always was able to cum almost on demand. It was wonderful. But then he started delaying his climax, and i thought he was just wanting to lengthen our session. Not so much. Apparently, his client load increased and by my late afternoon visit, he was totally spent. So the next time this happened, i suggested we take a break and have a drink, or two. We resumed our session by my giving him a nice relaxing massage. I also pulled up his favorite porn site on my phone, and with his preferred genre of activity. He quickly became aroused with his face glued to the film. And voila! Suck-sess.

THAT is a classy move, my friend. Well done.

[tradehunter]

"My motto is if they cant get hard thats on them if they cant cum thats on you "

 

It's not "can't", it's "won't" - they are saving themselves up to do another round.

 

Hahaha. Unless they have on a chadtity belt or have taken a time out the responsibiliy lies with u.

[tenderloin]

Hahaha. Unless they have on a chadtity belt or have taken a time out the responsibiliy lies with u.

 

Ummm...explain please. If a professional sex worker makes a commitment ("I will cum on your belly") and decides not to honor that commitment, how is that my responsibility?

[tradehunter]

Ummm...explain please. If a professional sex worker makes a commitment ("I will cum on your belly") and decides not to honor that commitment, how is that my responsibility?

 

Well are you saying u are doing everything u think u can to make them cum or they cant or are they withdrawing when they are close? The latter is their fault former isnt.

[tenderloin]

I think you are making this more complicated than it needs to be. It's actually pretty simple:

 

I tell guys I hire that having them cum is one of the things that makes the session a success for me. It turns me on. I am a cum guy. Sometimes, after I cum or while I am cumming, a good escort will finish himself off, or allow me to do it for/with him. Other times, once I cum they immediately break off contact, get up to use the bathroom, or make a move to put their undies on, sending the signal that the session is over. In such instances, they are "saving themselves" so that they can have another appointment (I frequently see guys during the daytime -- its how my schedule works).

 

A good escort, if he has agreed to a session and understands the criteria for success of the appointment, will honor his commitments. Certainly, if he is not prepared to honor the commitment he made in exchange for a fee, he is not entitled to the whole fee.

[Kris_Canada]

I saw a local escort about a half-dozen times a few years ago. He was in his early 30s, good shape, and always was able to cum almost on demand. It was wonderful. But then he started delaying his climax, and i thought he was just wanting to lengthen our session. Not so much. Apparently, his client load increased and by my late afternoon visit, he was totally spent. So the next time this happened, i suggested we take a break and have a drink, or two. We resumed our session by my giving him a nice relaxing massage. I also pulled up his favorite porn site on my phone, and with his preferred genre of activity. He quickly became aroused with his face glued to the film. And voila! Suck-sess.

 

NICE compromise, I like it.

 

One time a client asked me how many times I'm able to cum in an hour (he only wanted or perhaps could only afford a 1-hour session), I said 2 to 3 times within an hour (maybe I could do more, but that's the amount I know I can put out, so better not to raise expectations beyond a reasonable level). We were enjoying ourselves to the extent that we went past session time and I hadn't gotten off that third time yet. Wanted to make him happy, it's hot for me to give ya what you're craving (and the more times I cum, the better and deeper that post-session nap ends up being, so advantage both of us), so we went over by 20 or 30 minutes in order to do another full fuck session (to be fair, in this instance the first ejaculation was fucking and the second was us lazying around on our backs and touching and jacking each other off).

 

Escort might not wanna refund any of what he's been paid at the start of the session, but if things don't go as planned for whatever reason, one way to make it up to the client instead of partial refund is with a bit of extra time (if the client is receptive to this and the escort doesn't have another appointment he's gotta get to -- shouldn't book things hour-to-hour anyway, IMO). You can always bargain with extra time and fulfill expectations within that extension. Doesn't work if your client is a businessman on his strict 1-hour lunch break, but with everyone else, it's a possible save.

 

What another forum member said up above, about it being time to retire if you can't get it up and how you should use Viagara or Cialis if you can't get and maintain an erection with every client...to each his own, but if I have to start taking a drug just to do a job, it's quitting time. If/when this happens, though, I'll look up the pros and cons (potential side effects or any documented effects of longterm use) before I take a hard line against them, to be fair. I dunno, I'm sort of a health nut, to a degree (unless I'm being taken out to eat, then all bets are off). There was talk about wanting drug-free escorts earlier who aren't burnt out after a weekend of partying ? This is gonna make me more appealing to some and seem like a lot less fun to others, but completely drug-free here. No PnP. Guaranteed. I'm smoke-sensitive, I can't even share a joint with ya.

[Cruiser7]

you should have called the police and reported him this is a crime

 

Yeah, that would go over well. How are you going to explain to the cop that you’re in a motel with a dude you don’t know, gave him money (for what? the cop would naturally ask), and because he didn’t get hard, you think he “stole” your money?!

 

Don’t get me wrong, I agree that the money should be returned (or at least partial), but to call the cops? That’s like calling them for a drug deal gone bad.

[+ azdr0710]

Yeah, that would go over well. How are you going to explain to the cop that you’re in a motel with a dude you don’t know, gave him money (for what? the cop would naturally ask), and because he didn’t get hard, you think he “stole” your money?!

 

Don’t get me wrong, I agree that the money should be returned (or at least partial), but to call the cops? That’s like calling them for a drug deal gone bad.

 

I assume @muscmtl was joking about that!

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[Cruiser7]

If he was, I didn’t read it that way because of his syntax. Also, I’ve seen honest-to-goodness comments on other sites literally arguing that calling the cops is the appropriate thing to do, which I always found weird.