Maybe I am paranoid, but...

[wDarling]

I think there’s just a lot of people in these forums that are lurking. And since people don’t seem to be offering up as much info about their experiences on here lately, or just saying to pm for details, you’re getting more people pm’ing for details...

 

I’ve said it in other threads, but it would help if these forums were made more private instead of being completely open to Google searches.

[ontheroad]

penny for your thoughts gentlemen?

 

Fantasy sexter

[ontheroad]

 

I’ve said it in other threads, but it would help if these forums were made more private instead of being completely open to Google searches.

 

Agreed

[IntuitiveTactile]

Not sure I quite understand your reply, but I am just commenting on the hypocrisy that can be interpreted when the shoe is on the other foot.

That's exactly what I am referring to

Either side of an issue can be pinpointed as being on the wrong side of an issue . However it all depends on perspective.

Hypocrisy abounds just as much on this forum as it does in real life.

[+ nycman]

Was my initial response not adequate from a client's prospective?

It was more than adequate.

Should I be cautious and not proceed further?

Yes, you should be cautious.

No, you should not proceed any further.

 

Should I continue to answer all his questions and take an assumed risk of having my time wasted or encountering law enforcement?

See my answer above.

 

Anyone who reads your very well written ad knows all that

they need to know. You reaffirmed that your into the things

he lists as his interests. There real isn’t a need for any further

sexual discussions until you meet IMHO.

[+ LAdude424]

The point of the OP - sharing experiences with other board members - has been sorta mutated into how many questions potential clients ask and how many answers providers should be expected to give. I have some opinions here

 

I'm sure there are many guys like @MrMattBig who provide upfront and honest detail - but you don't have to read more than 2 or 3 posts on here to learn many providers write one thing and deliver another. I hire way more masseurs than escorts, but in texting both in my messages I often say things like "Can you confirm your massage is on a table?" "Can you confirm your fee is?" "Can you tell me your height/weight?" "Can I shower after" because i have personally walked into sessions where there was no table when one was advertised, where the fee requested was different than what was posted, where the person answered the door was 4 inches shorter than their ad.. and .. so one and so on.....so... I've learned to confirm. I can understand that providers likely get tons of flakes and the text-equivalent of heavy breathers, but I've found that guys who respond with a terse "That's covered in my ad" and refuse to give me 8 minutes of their time for a conversation - even if some of it is to verify what's written - are likely not going to be a match for me.

 

The funny thing is - you can see from my posts on here I hire PLENTY of people - it's unfortunate that some providers act like my questions are just attempts to waste their time.

 

Even with all my efforts to confirm - it's still a gamble. . I will spell out a specific scene.. i usually say . here's my fantasy scene... i want a massage, but i dont want you naked for first 30 minute. .i want to lay down ..feel the real massage.. get relaxed.. and then once were halfway through, ..you start getting more sensual....the provider is all "Yes. .i can do that.. .. I'm an expert at that." then inevitably I'm on the table for 7 minutes and their dick is flopping in my face or they start lubing up my hole.

 

Both sides have interests to protect and terms to manage.. I understand ...but .. in the end ... I'm the customer and I see it as the provider's job to give me what I want, not the other way around.

[Dmitri]

Lately I have received PMs from “newbies” asking me to share my experience with masseurs I have commented about on this forum. I provide very general details, but the newbie keeps pressing for a play-by-play commentary - which I refuse to give.

 

Is anyone else experiencing this?

 

Yes......I am finding it really strange. In the past 7 days I have had more PM requests for info on certain masseurs than I have had in the past 7 months. Something weird is going on.

[+ Just Sayin]

Case in point. I have a new prospective client contacting me right now on RM. His profile is all filled out detailing the type of experience he would like to have. He asks me to check out his profile so I can have an idea of what he is looking for.

I check it out and reply that what he described sounds hot and that we will have a great time together.

 

He then proceeds to verify that I will do specific acts after this response (nothing to explicit, can I be dominate, verbal, kink friendly etc).

 

In my experience this more times than not leads to more explicit play by play questions and usually is either a fantasy sexter looking to get off, or probing law enforcement.

 

Was my initial response not adequate from a client's prospective?

Should I be cautious and not proceed further?

Should I continue to answer all his questions and take an assumed risk of having my time wasted or encountering law enforcement?

 

A penny for your thoughts gentlemen?

 

as mentioned above, trust your instinct; when I've had PMs from others asking for detailed information, I listen to this discomfort I am feeling and ignore the questions

[MassageAdam]

The point of the OP - sharing experiences with other board members - has been sorta mutated into how many questions potential clients ask and how many answers providers should be expected to give. I have some opinions here

 

I'm sure there are many guys like @MrMattBig who provide upfront and honest detail - but you don't have to read more than 2 or 3 posts on here to learn many providers write one thing and deliver another. I hire way more masseurs than escorts, but in texting both in my messages I often say things like "Can you confirm your massage is on a table?" "Can you confirm your fee is?" "Can you tell me your height/weight?" "Can I shower after" because i have personally walked into sessions where there was no table when one was advertised, where the fee requested was different than what was posted, where the person answered the door was 4 inches shorter than their ad.. and .. so one and so on.....so... I've learned to confirm. I can understand that providers likely get tons of flakes and the text-equivalent of heavy breathers, but I've found that guys who respond with a terse "That's covered in my ad" and refuse to give me 8 minutes of their time for a conversation - even if some of it is to verify what's written - are likely not going to be a match for me.

 

The funny thing is - you can see from my posts on here I hire PLENTY of people - it's unfortunate that some providers act like my questions are just attempts to waste their time.

 

Even with all my efforts to confirm - it's still a gamble. . I will spell out a specific scene.. i usually say . here's my fantasy scene... i want a massage, but i dont want you naked for first 30 minute. .i want to lay down ..feel the real massage.. get relaxed.. and then once were halfway through, ..you start getting more sensual....the provider is all "Yes. .i can do that.. .. I'm an expert at that." then inevitably I'm on the table for 7 minutes and their dick is flopping in my face or they start lubing up my hole.

 

Both sides have interests to protect and terms to manage.. I understand ...but .. in the end ... I'm the customer and I see it as the provider's job to give me what I want, not the other way around.

Wow, I wish I had as much luck as you... I actually like when it turns playful pretty early on....

[MisterMike]

I get people inboxing for info, but honestly I feel like I'm doing a disservice to both that person and the masseur because each encounter is so highly personal. What happened with me may not happen with you. I love the phrase YMMV, but really it's YMWV your mileage WILL vary, unless he's a massage-bot.

[+ LAdude424]

Wow, I wish I had as much luck as you... I actually like when it turns playful pretty early on....

 

For me...If I wanted a quicky I'd hire an escort for a 30 minute session - with the $$ savings. What I usually want (and what I save my pennies for) is a genuine massage where the masseur is focused on making me feel good and paying attention to my muscles and my body....which..yes.. turns sensual and ends with release. Nothing makes me feel more cheated than agreeing on a scene, and a premium price of $150 or even $180... and then getting a guy that goes right for the climax clearly intending just to get the session over.

[+ LAdude424]

I get people inboxing for info, but honestly I feel like I'm doing a disservice to both that person and the masseur because each encounter is so highly personal. What happened with me may not happen with you. I love the phrase YMMV, but really it's YMWV your mileage WILL vary, unless he's a massage-bot.

 

I agree .. but sometimes i want at the very least a somewhat trusted/unbiased source saying

1. Masseur is as advertised

2. Masseur delivered fundamentally decent service/accommodations/location

2. Masseur was at least open to some extras

 

With that info I'll take the plunge, recognizing my experience will likely not match.

[MisterMike]

I agree .. but sometimes i want at the very least a somewhat trusted/unbiased source...

 

That's fair. Still... renter beware.

[+ 7829V]

I agree .. but sometimes i want at the very least a somewhat trusted/unbiased source saying

1. Masseur is as advertised

2. Masseur delivered fundamentally decent service/accommodations/location

2. Masseur was at least open to some extras

 

With that info I'll take the plunge, recognizing my experience will likely not match.

Same here. At least I know he’s real and not a scammer or random guy looking for quick cash for drugs or alcohol.

[IYH99]

I’m new to both the board and getting massages (outside of the therapeutic chain spas). I’ve appreciated everyone on the board (I’ve avoided some people I was possibly interested in because of numerous warnings).

 

I’ve only had three massages (from three different people), and I’ve enjoyed every one. I’m happy to discuss my experiences with people who’ve PM’d me, but I get the reluctance. I feel it’s almost easier to discuss a bad experience. I try to reiterate the YMMV aspect, even though I know it’s implied. What I’m looking for/enjoy may not be the same thing you are. I’d hate for someone to book based off my recommendation and have a lousy experience, but I think we all understand that’s the risk.

[Jason901]

There was a period where I was getting tons and tons of pms about Clark in LA. I just copied and pasted my response and sent the same info back to everyone.

I'm not sure I believe that law enforcement actually lurk in here. seems like too much work...like maybe they go after a spa, but reading forums about individuals...that's a lot of work. but as always, I say listen to intuition

[+ Just966]

I am relatively new on this forum but joined prior to a trip to Vegas and asked for advice on masseures in Vegas. Received some really helpful replies some as a response on here others as PMs. Just wanted to add my 2 cents that it was really helpful as stopped me from hiring a couple that would likely have been bad mistakes so very much appreciated the candid comments and am sorry to think guys may not want to share that info anymore - although can see the concerns. Also what floats my boat doesn't always float another persons boat so at times will pay to take a chance. The one guy that I really liked I received no responses on and was great- for me! The one that was rated great by a number of people definitely did not float my boat. Do appreciate the exchange of info though to help make those tough decisions!

[dreamboy13]

I basically ignore the newbs.

Gotta earn your keep babes!

 

Currently getting to my knighthood status.

 

But appreciate all the guys here who contribute and offer great advice and share experiences.

 

I’m sharing a tiny bit less and that’s only because of the danger posed to our forum and others as of late. But I will say, I recently had a request and the fellas here came through in mass numbers for me and each mentioned it being because they know that I’m active here and can be trusted. There’s something to be said about that. A newbie- while I understand wanting information- will need to be active for a while before it’s safe to share info.

 

Anyway- carry on! Just mainly posting this to show appreciation for the active and trusted members.

[+ 7829V]

I’m a “viscount” and still sometimes I’m ignored when I sent PMs.

 

If someone only has a couple of massages I also ignore them. But if the person it’s been a member for a while and posting a few here and there I tend to trust them.

[Nvr2Thick]

Case in point. I have a new prospective client contacting me right now on RM. His profile is all filled out detailing the type of experience he would like to have. He asks me to check out his profile so I can have an idea of what he is looking for.

I check it out and reply that what he described sounds hot and that we will have a great time together.

 

He then proceeds to verify that I will do specific acts after this response (nothing to explicit, can I be dominate, verbal, kink friendly etc).

 

In my experience this more times than not leads to more explicit play by play questions and usually is either a fantasy sexter looking to get off, or probing law enforcement.

 

Was my initial response not adequate from a client's prospective?

Should I be cautious and not proceed further?

Should I continue to answer all his questions and take an assumed risk of having my time wasted or encountering law enforcement?

 

A penny for your thoughts gentlemen?

 

It cuts both ways. I try to get to the point quickly as a client so that I'm not perceived as a fantasy sexter, but also for the escort's sake I try to walk the line between being specific and being explicit. When I reached out to a fairly recent hire, however, he asked what kind of scene I was looking for. I replied, "Boyfriend experience with an affectionate but insistent top who likes to kiss and who is able to take the lead and make things happen." I'm usually quite successful when I provide just this much detail regarding my expectations. His answer was, "Sounds perfect. I'm just what you're looking for." When I met the guy he was friendly enough, and the encounter was mechanical but in a reasonably hot way. I would occasionally try to maneuver toward more affection and kissing in particular, until he showed my a ring on his finger and smiled and said, "I'm committed to a guy and he's the only guy I kiss." I'm fairly certain my breath and hygiene were fine, and that this actually was his policy. He gave a lot to the session, but there was no affection.

 

Years ago I might have asked the forum, "What should I have done differently? Should I have explicitly clarified his that he was into affectionate play and kissing?" Now I know better. Some of it comes down to chemistry. Some of it comes down to honesty. I'll never know whether an escort has some strict but undisclosed limits, or whether he's limiting the encounter based on how attracted he is to me. As I client I'd like to press for details, and at least get to an honest answer about what an escort will consider and what is off-limits. I know better than to offend an escort though by perpetuating the pre-engagement discussion. Even if I get the details I need, the process may create resentment that sours the encounter -- because the escort may feel as though I've ordered the session off a Chinese menu.

 

In short, as an escort your well within bounds to be as explicit or discreet as you choose to be.

[Nvr2Thick]

I basically ignore the newbs.

Gotta earn your keep babes!

 

Currently getting to my knighthood status.

 

But appreciate all the guys here who contribute and offer great advice and share experiences.

 

I’m sharing a tiny bit less and that’s only because of the danger posed to our forum and others as of late. But I will say, I recently had a request and the fellas here came through in mass numbers for me and each mentioned it being because they know that I’m active here and can be trusted. There’s something to be said about that. A newbie- while I understand wanting information- will need to be active for a while before it’s safe to share info.

 

Anyway- carry on! Just mainly posting this to show appreciation for the active and trusted members.

 

In general there are a lot of people out there who treat social media as an entitled service they paid for with their Internet or phone bill. They don't get that "social" means that you're participating in a community.

[Racketjock]

I get these routinely and often. I tend to keep it PG while stressing my experience as a frequent repeater with someone is not to be a common expectation for someone new and a first timer. I appreciate those who have shared with me in the past and willing to pay it forward, but remain leery when someone keeps asking for more and more detail to an encounter than what I am willing to give.

[+ tassojunior]

Yes......I am finding it really strange. In the past 7 days I have had more PM requests for info on certain masseurs than I have had in the past 7 months. Something weird is going on.

 

I have also gotten several PM's in the past week asking me for information on guys I know. Never any before. It is making me suspicious. From now on in answering them I'm staying extremely PG.