Hire-at-low-rate-only 2018 proposal letter

[+ Tarte Gogo]

This letter is ALSO being shared by thousands of clients across the country. Many clients have already stopped hiring expensive escorts. Why not us as well? I hope you all decide to stand up for what you deserve and make this change with us. OUR MONEY. OUR CHOICE. Please feel free to copy and share to every client you know as well.

 

 

Dear Fellow Client,

 

 

This letter is in regards to the Rate Reduce Movement of 2018 #ReduceTheRate2018. You may be aware of the effects FOSTA/SESTA has had on your hobby and peace of mind. I am requesting on the behalf of the entire adult industry client base in the country to hire only escort that have reasonable, unraised rates, starting now (please don’t cancel what you have already agreed, though, that is a dick move).

 

This one act when done in unison by all clients across the country will push out of business the most expensive escorts, leaving only reasonable ones, making your hobby more worthy of your time. This is only possible if everyone does it. We must stand together in unison as clients. If you can respond to this letter with a simple ‘yes’ you are committing to bettering the quality of your life and future.

 

Several years ago, $150 was considered to be high end for a providers hourly rate. The cost of living has gone up for us clients and the quality of providers has not increased in the recent years, with flakes, fakes and scams all over the place. This has increased the risk for us and it is NOT sustainable to continue paying that much for an hour of work. It will ultimately leave the industry in ruins. Now, with the limitations of FOSTA, finding safe escorts will be increasingly difficult. A universal rate reduction is this only way to ensure survival of the business at this point. The time to take action is NOW.

 

 

Here are some tips to help justify your higher-price refusal:

 

● Say you can’t afford that much.

 

● Say you are not even sure that the escort is not a police sting.

 

● Ask the price for a 30 minutes quickie.

 

● Talk to other clients and exchange tips on who provides a good service for a reasonable price.

 

● Work on self-care to boost your confidence level. Not only is it good for your mental and physical health, but your escort will find your new found glow more attractive.

 

● Read the forums and free independent reviews and chose wisely.

 

 

Know that we are as frustrated as you are with how difficult things have become for clients. Even the richest clients have been affected in someway by FOSTA/SESTA. It’s time to take a stand and change the industry for the better. Please respond to this letter and forward it to your client friends and post on social media to make a real change.

 

Please consider this letter as my promise to refuse to hire at higher rate starting now. Will you join us?

 

Sincerely,

 

Tarte gogo

 

Your local client and ally

 

 

 

Preemptive answers to questions:

1. Yes this is a silly response to https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/raise-the-rate-2018-proposal-letter.135539/

2. No I am not being serious, just trying to show that it can work both ways. Although I will genuinely hire those that have reasonable prices only, because I am not getting a second job as suggested by @FTM Zachary Prince

3. Please don’t actually PM me your response, I can’t handle the volume already!

Edited April 7, 2018 by Tarte Gogo

[coriolis888]

The above proposed 'letter' is a reasonable response to the escort letter ( https://m4m-forum.org/threads/raise-the-rate-2018-proposal-letter.135539/ ) that advises escorts to markedly increase their already high rates.

 

Hilariously, included in the above cited thread (advising escorts to raise their rates), is the suggestion that clients get a second job to pay the recommended higher fees to pay escorts.

 

This rebuttal letter is a job well done.

[+ freecahill1965]

This letter is ALSO being shared by thousands of clients across the country. Many clients have already stopped hiring expensive escorts. Why not us as well? I hope you all decide to stand up for what you deserve and make this change with us. OUR MONEY. OUR CHOICE. Please feel free to copy and share to every client you know as well.

 

 

Dear Fellow Client,

 

 

This letter is in regards to the Rate Reduce Movement of 2018 #ReduceTheRate2018. You may be aware of the effects FOSTA/SESTA has had on your hobby and peace of mind. I am requesting on the behalf of the entire adult industry client base in the country to hire only escort that have reasonable, unraised rates, starting now (please don’t cancel what you have already agreed, though, that is a dick move).

 

This one act when done in unison by all clients across the country will push out of business the most expensive escorts, leaving only reasonable ones, making your hobby more worthy of your time. This is only possible if everyone does it. We must stand together in unison as clients. If you can respond to this letter with a simple ‘yes’ you are committing to bettering the quality of your life and future.

 

Several years ago, $150 was considered to be high end for a providers hourly rate. The cost of living has gone up for us clients and the quality of providers has not increased in the recent years, with flakes, fakes and scams all over the place. This has increased the risk for us and it is NOT sustainable to continue paying that much for an hour of work. It will ultimately leave the industry in ruins. Now, with the limitations of FOSTA, finding safe escorts will be increasingly difficult. A universal rate reduction is this only way to ensure survival of the business at this point. The time to take action is NOW.

 

 

Here are some tips to help justify your higher-price refusal:

 

● Say you can’t afford that much.

 

● Say you are not even sure that the escort is not a police sting.

 

● Talk to other clients and exchange tips on who provides a good service for a reasonable price.

 

● Work on self-care to boost your confidence level. Not only is it good for your mental and physical health, but your escort will find your new found glow more attractive.

 

● Read the forums and free independent reviews and chose wisely.

 

 

Know that we are as frustrated as you are with how difficult things have become for clients. Even the richest clients have been affected in someway by FOSTA/SESTA. It’s time to take a stand and change the industry for the better. Please respond to this letter and forward it to your client friends and post on social media to make a real change.

 

Please consider this letter as my promise to refuse to hire at higher rate starting now. Will you join us?

 

Sincerely,

 

Tarte gogo

 

Your local client and ally

 

 

 

Preemptive answers to questions:

1. Yes this is a silly response to https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/raise-the-rate-2018-proposal-letter.135539/

2. No I am not being serious, just trying to show that it can work both ways. Although I will genuinely hire those that have reasonable prices only, because I am not getting a second job as suggested by @FTM Zachary Prince

3. Please don’t actually PM me your response, I can’t handle the volume already!

ROTFLMFAO

[Guest RBmont-real]

I had a second job to pay for a regular weekly BF experience for 4 years. He was a quarter-century my junior. Then chucked it 10 years ago as the benefits wore thin and I realized it was a form of madness, for me anyway, to shortchange so much of my off-duty spare time. But he also put 30 lbs of muscle on my slenderish frame with some very fine in-person fitness mentoring. A secondary gain, and his time all averaged out to $65 USD per hour. A bright, funny gorjeesus head-turner. Had a huge following when he began 20 years ago to commute to NYC in the Gaiety days.

 

Mind you, he was a casualty of the precipitous and enormous inflation in stripper club private dance costs at the time. We were reliable for each other and he knew he had a good thing going when strippers found themselves wandering the club floors with their thumbs up their asses as clients held their ground.

 

A dollar only equals a dollar on either side of the inflation/reduction dialectic. In contrast, any arbitrary increase feels psychologically much greater, in absolute monetary terms, compared to a corresponding discount. Younger millenials are perhaps less vulnerable to this kind of psychological self-defeating mindfuck but have to realize and accommodate the age and experience of their relatively ham-fisted constituency.

 

The stripper clubs in my environs have never been the same as the late '80s to mid '00s. I think the better setpoint for reasonable cost emanates from the trends way back for those of us gay and grey, accounting for modest COLA inflation. The sociological realities have remained essentially constant, just cleverer rhetoric directed towards the hoodwink-able.

 

Clients, I urge you never to pay greater than $250 USD per hour. This amounts, for example, to 5 times the general rate for outstanding providers in Brasil where the average income is one-fifth the income median north of the Rio Grande. There are other examples elsewhere in the world that buttress this approach. Tipping as a rule? Sure ... no problem; does not enter the pushover realm.

 

Tartegogo, I do not think either of us is ridiculous sending up the inflation proposals. Or anyone else. I thought your counterpoint rocked.

 

I do not stand to benefit personally from the stabilized rates I support. I only hire in countries that have large selections of commercial sex workers who meet my idiosyncratic but pretty normative appearance, fitness, and performance talent criteria. I go for the availability ... the lower rates are offset by the costs of travel and the realities that the COL there approximates that of my NoAm city.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

If you have to take on a second job to afford this hobby, you probably shouldn't be hiring in the first place

 

The OP is smirk-inducing. Well done

[bigvalboy]

This letter is ALSO being shared by thousands of clients across the country. Many clients have already stopped hiring expensive escorts. Why not us as well? I hope you all decide to stand up for what you deserve and make this change with us. OUR MONEY. OUR CHOICE. Please feel free to copy and share to every client you know as well.

 

 

Dear Fellow Client,

 

 

This letter is in regards to the Rate Reduce Movement of 2018 #ReduceTheRate2018. You may be aware of the effects FOSTA/SESTA has had on your hobby and peace of mind. I am requesting on the behalf of the entire adult industry client base in the country to hire only escort that have reasonable, unraised rates, starting now (please don’t cancel what you have already agreed, though, that is a dick move).

 

This one act when done in unison by all clients across the country will push out of business the most expensive escorts, leaving only reasonable ones, making your hobby more worthy of your time. This is only possible if everyone does it. We must stand together in unison as clients. If you can respond to this letter with a simple ‘yes’ you are committing to bettering the quality of your life and future.

 

Several years ago, $150 was considered to be high end for a providers hourly rate. The cost of living has gone up for us clients and the quality of providers has not increased in the recent years, with flakes, fakes and scams all over the place. This has increased the risk for us and it is NOT sustainable to continue paying that much for an hour of work. It will ultimately leave the industry in ruins. Now, with the limitations of FOSTA, finding safe escorts will be increasingly difficult. A universal rate reduction is this only way to ensure survival of the business at this point. The time to take action is NOW.

 

 

Here are some tips to help justify your higher-price refusal:

 

● Say you can’t afford that much.

 

● Say you are not even sure that the escort is not a police sting.

 

● Ask the price for a 30 minutes quickie.

 

● Talk to other clients and exchange tips on who provides a good service for a reasonable price.

 

● Work on self-care to boost your confidence level. Not only is it good for your mental and physical health, but your escort will find your new found glow more attractive.

 

● Read the forums and free independent reviews and chose wisely.

 

 

Know that we are as frustrated as you are with how difficult things have become for clients. Even the richest clients have been affected in someway by FOSTA/SESTA. It’s time to take a stand and change the industry for the better. Please respond to this letter and forward it to your client friends and post on social media to make a real change.

 

Please consider this letter as my promise to refuse to hire at higher rate starting now. Will you join us?

 

Sincerely,

 

Tarte gogo

 

Your local client and ally

 

 

 

Preemptive answers to questions:

1. Yes this is a silly response to https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/raise-the-rate-2018-proposal-letter.135539/

2. No I am not being serious, just trying to show that it can work both ways. Although I will genuinely hire those that have reasonable prices only, because I am not getting a second job as suggested by @FTM Zachary Prince

3. Please don’t actually PM me your response, I can’t handle the volume already!

 

LOL...Well done!

[TruthBTold]

Or just save your pennies and do what I do. Book a ticket for a less expensive country offering less expensive experiences (of course you have to like the look of the guys). I am always happy to make my way to Brazil or Mexico. After a couple of times you know where to go and who is reliable to employ. Actually the first time or two I went I hired a non-sexual guy who showed me around the city and then knew where I could go to get a safe experience. The first time it was more expensive but I didn't waste my time and felt much safer.

[Guest RBmont-real]

After 30 years as a NoAmer consumer, dropped local hiring for international sex tourism folded into vacay ... mainly Spain and Brasil. Haven't looked back. Just kicked myself because I did not know what I had been missing.

 

Could probably start a small sideline biz curating certain types of excursions for skittish newbies or for octogenarians in need of supportive accompaniment. But I may be having too much fun to make that really worth my time.

 

I should also point out my observation that in the sauna brothels in Brasil there seems to be an unwritten verboten that dictates that the working guys do not tend to hard-hustle the top-age-bracket more physically vulnerable clientele for "extras" as much. This is somewhat counterintuitive but reassuring. The performative labour dynamics constitute an entertaining sideshow unto itself. The relatively younger among us have a more robust capacity for those aspects of the trade that seem to situate us, figuratively, behind enemy lines.

[+ oldNbusted]

I don't think clients are interchangeable widgets, so I can see how this strategy will not be a good fit for every one.

[marylander1940]

If you have to take on a second job to afford this hobby, you probably shouldn't be hiring in the first place

 

The OP is smirk-inducing. Well done

 

Let's quote or mention @ so @RBmont-real knows you talked about him.

[marylander1940]

After 30 years as a NoAmer consumer, dropped local hiring for international sex tourism folded into vacay ... mainly Spain and Brasil. Haven't looked back. Just kicked myself because I did not know what I had been missing.

 

Could probably start a small sideline biz curating certain types of excursions for skittish newbies or for octogenarians in need of supportive accompaniment. But I may be having too much fun to make that really worth my time.

 

I should also point out my observation that in the sauna brothels in Brasil there seems to be an unwritten verboten that dictates that the working guys do not tend to hard-hustle the top-age-bracket more physically vulnerable clientele for "extras" as much. This is somewhat counterintuitive but reassuring. The performative labour dynamics constitute an entertaining sideshow unto itself. The relatively younger among us have a more robust capacity for those aspects of the trade that seem to situate us, figuratively, behind enemy lines.

 

if you could start a business like that you'd do it.

 

I agree with you, South of the border work ethic is better.

 

Have you gone to Cuba yet?

[marylander1940]

This letter is ALSO being shared by thousands of clients across the country. Many clients have already stopped hiring expensive escorts. Why not us as well? I hope you all decide to stand up for what you deserve and make this change with us. OUR MONEY. OUR CHOICE. Please feel free to copy and share to every client you know as well.

 

 

Dear Fellow Client,

 

 

This letter is in regards to the Rate Reduce Movement of 2018 #ReduceTheRate2018. You may be aware of the effects FOSTA/SESTA has had on your hobby and peace of mind. I am requesting on the behalf of the entire adult industry client base in the country to hire only escort that have reasonable, unraised rates, starting now (please don’t cancel what you have already agreed, though, that is a dick move).

 

This one act when done in unison by all clients across the country will push out of business the most expensive escorts, leaving only reasonable ones, making your hobby more worthy of your time. This is only possible if everyone does it. We must stand together in unison as clients. If you can respond to this letter with a simple ‘yes’ you are committing to bettering the quality of your life and future.

 

Several years ago, $150 was considered to be high end for a providers hourly rate. The cost of living has gone up for us clients and the quality of providers has not increased in the recent years, with flakes, fakes and scams all over the place. This has increased the risk for us and it is NOT sustainable to continue paying that much for an hour of work. It will ultimately leave the industry in ruins. Now, with the limitations of FOSTA, finding safe escorts will be increasingly difficult. A universal rate reduction is this only way to ensure survival of the business at this point. The time to take action is NOW.

 

 

Here are some tips to help justify your higher-price refusal:

 

● Say you can’t afford that much.

 

● Say you are not even sure that the escort is not a police sting.

 

● Ask the price for a 30 minutes quickie.

 

● Talk to other clients and exchange tips on who provides a good service for a reasonable price.

 

● Work on self-care to boost your confidence level. Not only is it good for your mental and physical health, but your escort will find your new found glow more attractive.

 

● Read the forums and free independent reviews and chose wisely.

 

 

Know that we are as frustrated as you are with how difficult things have become for clients. Even the richest clients have been affected in someway by FOSTA/SESTA. It’s time to take a stand and change the industry for the better. Please respond to this letter and forward it to your client friends and post on social media to make a real change.

 

Please consider this letter as my promise to refuse to hire at higher rate starting now. Will you join us?

 

Sincerely,

 

Tarte gogo

 

Your local client and ally

 

 

 

Preemptive answers to questions:

1. Yes this is a silly response to https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/raise-the-rate-2018-proposal-letter.135539/

2. No I am not being serious, just trying to show that it can work both ways. Although I will genuinely hire those that have reasonable prices only, because I am not getting a second job as suggested by @FTM Zachary Prince

3. Please don’t actually PM me your response, I can’t handle the volume already!

 

Damn, that experience at the spa really pissed you off..

[TruthBTold]

After 30 years as a NoAmer consumer, dropped local hiring for international sex tourism folded into vacay ... mainly Spain and Brasil. Haven't looked back. Just kicked myself because I did not know what I had been missing.

Could probably start a small sideline biz curating certain types of excursions for skittish newbies or for octogenarians in need of supportive accompaniment. But I may be having too much fun to make that really worth my time.

I should also point out my observation that in the sauna brothels in Brasil there seems to be an unwritten verboten that dictates that the working guys do not tend to hard-hustle the top-age-bracket more physically vulnerable clientele for "extras" as much. This is somewhat counterintuitive but reassuring. The performative labour dynamics constitute an entertaining sideshow unto itself. The relatively younger among us have a more robust capacity for those aspects of the trade that seem to situate us, figuratively, behind enemy lines.

 

The other thing I noticed (especially in Brazil) is that there wasn't a straight line sex delineation so that there seem to be more straight/bi workers in the various clubs/saunas willing to do a lot more. And of course for a lot less because that was the going rate. Also, when I did hire the young guys to show me around they were treated better and actually got a better price for me because the escort knew they would get repeat business by being more considerate.

[TruthBTold]

if you could start a business like that you'd do it.

I agree with you, South of the border work ethic is better.

Have you gone to Cuba yet?

 

No, I have not. And I read an article recently that said that the tourist business has really tanked because the U.S. has revoked some (not all) of its promotion of travel to Cuba. You should see a lowering of prices again in Cuba. So it will probably a good time in the next couple of years to go again.

[marylander1940]

No, I have not. And I read an article recently that said that the tourist business has really tanked because the U.S. has revoked some (not all) of its promotion of travel to Cuba. You should see a lowering of prices again in Cuba. So it will probably a good time in the next couple of years to go again.

 

It wasn't a question directed at you, but in a few years the winds will change and Cuba will be even closer.

[+ José Soplanucas]

● Ask the price for a 30 minutes quickie.

!

 

You made me choke on my weed. I am still laughing and coughing.

 

http://cannabisdestiny.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/rookie.gif

[Guest RBmont-real]

Kkkkk ... my ability to follow is unravelling due to, I think, 2 separate threads with similar titles and in different fora categories.

[TruthBTold]

It wasn't a question directed at you, but in a few years the winds will change and Cuba will be even closer.

 

I wasn't offended in any way if that is what you thought. I just thought you brought it up in general as a place that was fairly inexpensive (at least for Americans). The present Congress/administration shuttered it a little. However it will open up again but before then the country will want dollars as it once did. And it is becoming much more gay friendly.

[+ oldNbusted]

Kkkkk ... my ability to follow is unravelling due to, I think, 2 separate threads with similar titles and in different fora categories.

 

One difference is in this thread, the OP didn't get bent out of shape when it was diplomatically pointed out that one size does not fit all.

[Guest RBmont-real]

On the contrary, for me, I get bent out of shape when the thing that is the same size migrates from skull to rectum. Diplomacy aside, physiological reality. Choked, pretzeled, choked, pretzeled ... repeat.

[Steveocean456]

I love it!

I’ve never used an escort but have often considered it. I’m fine if people want to charge a particular price and other people are willing to pay it. I’m not one of those people. I work very hard for my money and freely put myself at risk for that salary. I couldn’t use my funds for the rates that I’m seeing now. Greed is ugly.

Some other guys mentioned other countries. I’ve been to Mexico a few times lately and have never paid more than 400 for a ticket, usually about 250, and about 100 per night for a very decent hotel. So far, I’ve never hired anyone for sex (but I’ve had a few massages (most I ever paid was 120) that have been extremely sexual) but I have always had tremendous sexual experiences on those trips. I’ve used Grindr with amazing results in Mexico and I’m no Adonis (6’3”, 225, 50). True it’s not always a sure thing but I encourage my brothers out there to try a visit to Mexico City for a hell of a lot better use of 500 that does a lot more good and goes a much longer way.

[biggerbilly]

On the topic of travel and prices. I remember making a list of guys I wanted to see in Montreal. Ended up not having to hire anyone, my Grindr profile never stopped blowing up. I can't prove it, but I think one of the guys that hit me up (but I never had the chance to meet) has an ad up now, lol. I'm not sure though, because his profile went away the same time the ad appeared.

[coriolis888]

 

snip - - - "because the U.S. has revoked some (not all) of its promotion of travel to Cuba.

 

 

Didn't you mean that after Trump visited the island with his family and friends (at taxpayer expense) Trump revoked some (not all) of the previous administration's promotion of travel to Cuba.

[+ nycman]

I wish you luck.

 

The market will decide.

[rvwnsd]

Well done, @Tarte Gogo