Are We About To Be Censored And Soon Be History?

[Dmitri]

I brought this up in another post about how Masseurfinder is now censoring it's advertisers, starting today, but feel it needs it's own thread, since it impacts all of us on Daddy's Reviews, and all the forums. I went to www.stopsesta.org, about the Bill in Congress that passed today. After reading www.stopsesta.org.....and the links on that site, I got the impression that we in these forums are at risk of being history soon. Am I correct in that impression?

[+ tassojunior]

There is a thread of sorts. Not that many gays here care. They're more concerned if 45 fucked a porn star or knew Russian trolls were on Facebook. Diversion is how you get something passed quietly with almost no dissenting votes.... Look at that squirrel over there.

 

https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/sesta-the-next-sex-trafficking-crackdown.128739/page-3#post-1481830

[Dmitri]

Question still remains: Will the Bill that passed today affect us and THIS website and forum? Any opinions?

[+ tassojunior]

The bill passed today attempts to stop any escorting or escort-promoting sites on the theory that less escorting=less

trafficking. It may be held unconstitutional eventually and if so will probably be re-passed.

 

It lets blame go on internet providers like Verizon or Comcast for carrying these sites. There's up to 10 years in prison, plus there's civil liability.

 

It will be the providers who place filters that will delete these sites pretty quickly. Massuerfinder must think no shirtless guys will avoid the filters. Rentmen will be gone in days. Hunqz too. This site and BoyToy probably will be caught in filters. I'm grabbing all the contacts I can, FB, WhatApp, phone #'s etc. now in case.

Edited March 22, 2018 by tassojunior

[+ WilliamM]

There is a thread of sorts. Not that many gays here care. They're more concerned if 45 fucked a porn star or knew Russian trolls were on Facebook. Diversion is how you get something passed quietly with almost no dissenting votes.... Look at that squirrel over there.

 

Totally and completely wrong. When Rentboy was shut down, @stevenkesslar led the efforts here to respond and raise money for the folks who worked at Rentboy. Steven --- a community activist with his late mentor, Senator Paul Wellstone --- has responded several times. Perhaps you should get to know him.

[rvwnsd]

Totally and completely wrong. When Rentboy was shut down, @stevenkesslar led the efforts here to respond and raise money for the folks who worked at Rentboy. Steven --- a community activist with his late mentor, Senator Paul Wellstone --- has responded several times. Perhaps you should get to know him.

To add on to what @WilliamM stated, many Forum members (including me) contributed time and money to the Rentboy defense fund. How much did you contribute @tassojunior ?

[cal]

You raise a good point. How do we continue in this environment? What are our options? What happens to some of us who are not as up to date in the tech world?

How do we continue as a community? Thanks for letting me vent.

[+ glutes]

Tons more Question Marks in place of photos with local MF listings. Just today!

[hottk29]

What happened with Masseurfinder? It's already bad enough they separated "Therapeutic, Sensual, and Erotic." It's muddied the waters and we have to rely on PMs here to find who will go how far for the fee

[Ajac]

Think it is bad now wait until Pence is the President. They will keep bananas, cucumbers and zucchinis hidden behind a curtain at the grocery store.

[Cliff]

I see that just since yesterday, masseurs have deleted shirtless photos of themselves, and I think some have edited their copy to eliminate anything suggestive.

[+ poolboy48220]

and the 'heal/relax' options don't show up for me.

[Cliff]

and the 'heal/relax' options don't show up for me.

Right, those options are gone now. Wow.

[longtime lurker]

Totally and completely wrong. When Rentboy was shut down, @stevenkesslar led the efforts here to respond and raise money for the folks who worked at Rentboy. Steven --- a community activist with his late mentor, Senator Paul Wellstone --- has responded several times. Perhaps you should get to know him.

Yeah... that line in the original post you responded to, "Not that many gays here care", did have too strong of a sting. The wording curiously and humorously made me think that the poster is "not" and others "are" as if it is somehow bad to be "gay". Obviously that was not the intention, but the choice of words was odd.

 

Bottom line: many, many do care. They just aren't rich and only rich people are running Washington D.C. right now. On the plus side, the one you mentioned is certainly not one who will simply say "well... there's nothing I can do about it".

[+ sync]

I see that just since yesterday, masseurs have deleted shirtless photos of themselves, and I think some have edited their copy to eliminate anything suggestive.

 

Right, those options are gone now. Wow.

 

Thanks for posting your observations, I thought it might just be my paranoia. A few minutes ago I found the "relax/heal" option at masseurfinder.com to appear after selecting a city from the search menu.

[+ poolboy48220]

Thanks for posting your observations, I thought it might just be my paranoia. A few minutes ago I found the "relax/heal" option at masseurfinder.com to appear after selecting a city from the search menu.

Still no relax/heal button for me. Do you have an account/login there? Wonder if that makes a difference, I don't have an account.

[+ sync]

Still no relax/heal button for me. Do you have an account/login there? Wonder if that makes a difference, I don't have an account.

 

No, I don't have an account. At the very top right-hand side of the home page the "search, new, advertise, about, and login" menu appears. If you click on the "search" option and then select a city from the drop-down menu or type in a city, I believe you will see the "heal/relax" menu appear in a separate box.

[+ tassojunior]

Yeah... that line in the original post you responded to, "Not that many gays here care", did have too strong of a sting. The wording curiously and humorously made me think that the poster is "not" and others "are" as if it is somehow bad to be "gay". Obviously that was not the intention, but the choice of words was odd. Bottom line: many, many do care. They just aren't rich and only rich people are running Washington D.C. right now. On the plus side, the one you mentioned is certainly not one who will simply say "well... there's nothing I can do about it".

Totally and completely wrong. When Rentboy was shut down, @stevenkesslar led the efforts here to respond and raise money for the folks who worked at Rentboy. Steven --- a community activist with his late mentor, Senator Paul Wellstone --- has responded several times. Perhaps you should get to know him.

To add on to what @WilliamM stated, many Forum members (including me) contributed time and money to the Rentboy defense fund. How much did you contribute @tassojunior ?

 

Welcome to a thread on the thread on SESTA (started by StevenKesslar). It's nice to see some prolific posters finally have an interest but it passed Congress yesterday and now we're sort of waiting for the lights to go out. Hopefully we can get a test case on the constitutionality quickly but I doubt it will be in time to stop the chilling effect on internet service providers that is it's real intent: Get them to filter out any sites having anything to do with escorting.

 

I'm not listing what all I've been doing the past month to fight SESTA but I do live and work in DC am gay and once every week or two put on my lawyer drag and venture to Capitol Hill to find buttonholes. Unfortunately most of my contacts are Democrats and they weren't budging on SESTA. 11 Democrats in the House and 1 in the Senate opposed SESTA. Leadership (or maybe the DNC) probably put out a party-line directive.

 

Trump is not the only master showman in DC who knows how to control what people are interested in at any time. The static and noise are diversionary flak to keep people's attention away from the horrible stuff being done quietly at the same time. SESTA is serious for us and a potential disaster for the internet.

[matt842]

No, I don't have an account. At the very top right-hand side of the home page the "search, new, advertise, about, and login" menu appears. If you click on the "search" option and then select a city from the drop-down menu or type in a city, I believe you will see the "heal/relax" menu appear in a separate box.

The "heal/relax" menu will appear, but I don't think it matters which one you choose. It looks like either one gives you the same set of masseurs.

[+ poolboy48220]

No, I don't have an account. At the very top right-hand side of the home page the "search, new, advertise, about, and login" menu appears. If you click on the "search" option and then select a city from the drop-down menu or type in a city, I believe you will see the "heal/relax" menu appear in a separate box.

Thanks, I see what you're saying now. As obscure as that navigation is, I bet the webmasters overlooked it.

[+ sync]

The "heal/relax" menu will appear, but I don't think it matters which one you choose. It looks like either one gives you the same set of masseurs.

 

I just went back to the site, and you're absolutely right. I didn't compare because I never click for "heal."

[+ HornyRetiree]

https://motherboard.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/3kjnwn/fosta-sesta-vote-passed-senate?__twitter_impression=true

[+ EVdude]

https://motherboard.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/3kjnwn/fosta-sesta-vote-passed-senate?__twitter_impression=true

Holy shit... [sESTA] “was approved overwhelmingly in a 97-2 vote. Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) were the only votes against the bill.”

[IntuitiveTactile]

https://reason.com/blog/2018/03/21/senate-passes-fosta-sex-trafficking-bill

 

"The bright side is that there's a strong chance this bill will run into trouble in the courts. "Unlike the SAVE Act, which prohibits the knowing advertisement of trafficked sexual services, this statute implicates constitutionally protected speech," points out Notre Dame law instructor Alex F. Levy. (Read Levy's guest post at Eric Goldman's blog for all the legal nitty gritty on why.)"

[Inkdnaija00]

The bill passed today attempts to stop any escorting or escort-promoting sites on the theory that less escorting=less

trafficking. It may be held unconstitutional eventually and if so will probably be re-passed.

 

It lets blame go on internet providers like Verizon or Comcast for carrying these sites. There's up to 10 years in prison, plus there's civil liability.

 

It will be the providers who place filters that will delete these sites pretty quickly. Massuerfinder must think no shirtless guys will avoid the filters. Rentmen will be gone in days. Hunqz too. This site and BoyToy probably will be caught in filters. I'm grabbing all the contacts I can, FB, WhatApp, phone #'s etc. now in case.

Lol me too