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On the other site there was an open post made to me that Lucky and Dallas have referred to in recent threads. I wrote a rather long reply to sum up my general feelings and I realized it really was an open reply that could be addressed to the spirit of this site as well. For what it's worth .... I hope it explains and helps facilitate a progressive New Year for all. Happy Holidays everybody!

 

Immediately below is the "Open Post" and below that is my response.

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In another thread I advocated locating Scott Adler's parents and notifying them that their son is lost in a life of prostitution. That he needs help to escape this life. Some have supported my suggestion others have disagreed.

 

I just want all to know that I strongly stand by what I wrote. I have no regret for writing it and have the means to follow through if I so wish.

 

After all Scott has no problem sharing client info and creating issues for me and others in their personal life ... so no guilt on my end should his folks find out the truth about their college fund baby.

 

However, that isn't my plan. That is my protection from the cyber hunting Scott Adler. As long as Scott stays away from me and posting my identity I have no issue with him.

 

I know he has seen my post as a mutual friend has mentioned to me his comments. And I assume from the very recent absence of his attacks on me he has decided to back the fuck off and if that is the case I'm grateful.

 

But people I don't care what is PC. I have absolutely no problem protecting myself. As the former Jewish Defense League main man Jerry Rubin trademarked, "Never again." I'm certain some in the reading audience can relate to his statement and no the other part of that famous statement by him.

 

I have no problem with people fucking with me, to a point. When they cross the line, and everyone knows that line whether you're doing the fucking or not, then I shall act to defend myself.

 

To those who feel as if they can shame me into thinking their PC way, forget it. I will not be a victim, I won't let that happen.

 

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Four Aces -- I do not -- have not -- and will continue to never care about what you say. The fact is that I have not made ANY personal attacks or threats on you ever but whatever you have to tell yourself to make yourself feel better is fine. I'm not a trust-fund / college-fund baby by any means. When I say I don't have to work it's not because I'm taken care of -- it's because I've done well for myself and know how to handle my money.

 

I have never attacked you or threatened to expose your true identity. Did I attack you under a pseudonym on M4M? Otherwise the only exchanges I believe we’ve ever had are the ones recently about asking you to post VM’s link etc and then our original exchange when this board was established when you were kind and amicable with me. I don’t know what’s happened since then – nor do I care. I have never had a problem with any of you on a personal level – it’s not worth my time (literally and figuratively ;) ) I have to ask what it is I’ve said to anyone that *acknowledges* your post. There’s a difference between having seen and cared about. It would be horribly unfortunate and sad if you went through with your threats but if anyone (and please don’t construe this as a threat) would opt to go through with such a plan it would leave nothing in terms of diplomacy and cautiousness in my way of finding ways to destroy them. Because there really wouldn’t be anything to worry about. Anyone who would do something so maliciously would prove themselves to be the sick and twisted individual they had been accused of in the past (because only someone accused of being that twisted would do such a thing). Aces, trust me … you’re not the first person in this forum to threaten and you won’t be the last. Assess the cost/benefits of the situation. Is it really worth it for anyone?

 

My absence “here” doesn’t really exist. I’m never really “here.” I make a post once in a while to watch the cauldron bubble as I referenced on the other site. My cauldron bubbling posts are far from shit stirring though as they’re not poignant attacks on people … just comments that just by my posting them I know will make something for you boys to amuse yourself. I have been absent on the real boards though; the explanation lies in the evening that I stopped. At HooVille it occurred to me that I simply just didn’t care. All the bickering and bitchiness served nothing. Making a point once and not to anyone in particular was all that was necessary. People who’s opinion’s mattered would see spiteful responses for what they were and responding was simply me wriggling on a hook after eating the bait. I can talk and argue with respectful and relevant people any time and anywhere I want.

 

A serious flaw of mine is that I enjoy arguing and don’t back down. I get sucked into things and respond when I shouldn’t; when it’s silly and pointless. This in mind, I have a resolution this year I actually intend on working on. Although I think third times a charm for nail biting. My shopping addiction will definitely require a sponsor to carry my credit cards when I go out in public though. But I digress…

 

The point that I want to get across to you guys tonight is that I have no personal qualms with ANY of you in particular. Even you Taylor. I kinda like you; the nick name is wonderful and makes me all tingly. One of the newer posters made an excellent point earlier though … you aren’t an escort and you don’t hire them. Why should I care what people in your category have to say about any of the topics. If anything I miss Erik because his comments at least had some value. I have some issues with things that are said, concepts and personal attacks but that’s all. I respond … that’s it. But anyway, posting on the boards has become monotonous and just silly but above all a waste of my time.

 

Woodlawn is right at times about my childish errors and naiveté. I am after all only 21. I probably shouldn’t have been carrying myself at the age that I do, but I’ve never really related to people in my own age range. My age is a fact that I have never openly lied about or denied in any respect in the past few years. I concealed an aspect of my life because I selfishly chose to pursue a hobby at the time since I really wasn’t cognitively able to weigh the pro’s and cons of certain situations at the time. Regardless, nobody was actually put in danger no matter how anyone here wants to spin the story. There was no realistic danger of them getting caught in the actual appointment and thus the extenuating further consequences were really irrelevant. There were three reviewers that met with me underage, only they were remotely endangered.

 

Other than this omission, I have never lied despite all the unfounded accusations of doing so. Any time I’ve ever asked anyone to give me an example of my lying; all they seem to produce is the aforementioned story which even at face value is only a lie because of a setting I clicked on a profile. But again, I’m sure none of you have lied once to anyone in four years so everyone has a basis to pass judgment.

 

One thing I won’t tolerate is the false accusation of sharing my client’s personal information. Sharing someone personal information seems to be a low only reaches by patrons of this site and is an unacceptable level to which I will never sink. Discretion is the most important thing in this business. It ranges from past threads where I discuss PDA as a problem and the like. I always respect my client’s privacy because I know that if I do they’ll respect mine.

 

It’s the golden rule, people here are just lucky I don’t believe in doing the reciprocal work of karma myself. I have friends as a result of this business that range from police to private law firm detectives that could do the work for me. But I really wouldn’t go out of my way or ask them to go out of theirs unless it was worth my time. Again .... Worth my time.

 

So enjoy your rants and raves. You sit and play with your friends and I will play with mine and never the ends shall meet.

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Scott,

I think your response hit just the right tone. Of course there will be those who will use what you have said in this post against you, but that is how they operate. You are right when you say that thoughtful people will recognize the crap for what it is.

 

Hope you keep posting your tart remarks here.

 

Blue drinks anyone?

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>I met Scott at a Hooville dinner and it was my pleasure to

>buy him a drink (or 10...;) ) Purely a social contact. Is

>that a problem for you?

 

LOL why would it be a problem for me? Maybe you need to lighten up a bit I know why not have a few of those blue drinks now then come back and post, huh?

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>Holy Fucking Moses....

 

>What a difference a face makes!

 

>From “kinda sorta cute”…to…”where is this boy located again?”

 

LOL. Thanks nyc, but I've always (except for a short stint) had a face pic up ;) Shoot me an eMail and I'll make sure to send you a note next time I decide to get bi-coastal :)

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what the fuck is going on ? I thought the "other site" closed months ago ? man, I miss so much shit around here...I think I need to spend more time on the computer and less time out in the fresh air

 

is that comment about finding Scott's parents actually a threat or just a statement ? cant actually imagine someone doing that, but this is kind of a strange place...that would be a one crazy ass phone call...most uncool

 

as for the link, well NYC I thought the same thing. That mothafucker grew up huh ? Kid looks like he could actually do some damage now :-) definitely grew up nice...he's got gunz now...gotta love that shit !!

 

BTW I think ive seen only one or two of scott's pic in my whole life...am I just uninformed or are there only a few out there ?

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>is that comment about finding Scott's parents actually a threat or just a statement ? cant actually imagine someone doing that, but this is kind of a strange place...that would be a one crazy ass phone call...most uncool

 

It's been my sad experience to recently be on the receiving end of some "uncool" threats, harassment, and cyberstalking that I believe originated with members of this site.

 

Although some comments posted here and other sites may "appear" to be innocent remarks or idle threats, I now view them in a much different light.

 

Unfortunately, I highly recommend that people take adequate measures to protect themselves from a few players in our sandbox who I consider to be truly disturbing people with the ability to cause serious problems.

 

And, for the record, I'm not suggesting that Four Aces is the source of my recent problems. I have no reason to suspect he was directly involved. Nor, am I passing judgement on his remarks about SA. But, I felt it important to warn others that some comments aren't always "innocent" remarks that can be easily dismissed.

 

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Short of leaving this site completely, do you have any serious suggestions on how to "resign" from this club? Any clue how many other M4Mers are other silent members that haven't yet spoken up?

 

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"We need to have more respect for each other. Things have just gone really crazy, out of control. ... We're on a very weird kind of cycle." Stevie Wonder

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Once your information is out there, nothing can bring it back. Welcome to modern life. ;( The safest way to deal with the internet and privacy is to unplug your computer and never go online, but that's not very practical.

 

Keep a close eye on your bank accounts and credit reports, and be very guarded about who you give private information to. That's all you can really do.

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Not a lot. And it varies widely based on geography.

 

CA has some of the toughest legislation due to the Hollywood influence and the frequency that stars pick up stalkers. Even then, though, about all you can do is file a report so that if something DOES happen there's a record of previous actions showing intent.

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>Not a lot. And it varies widely based on geography.

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>CA has some of the toughest legislation due to the Hollywood

>influence and the frequency that stars pick up stalkers. Even

>then, though, about all you can do is file a report so that if

>something DOES happen there's a record of previous actions

>showing intent.

 

That is really absurd....and SCARY.

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