Clients acting out...is it hate?

[MikeBiDude]

[Mocha]

@jjkrkwood you are pretty much spot on!

 

Enough of this drama. Shit happens. Get over it and move on. Quickly!

 

I like that. So true. I've had enough of the drama and shit does happen, but I'll move on and get over it pretty quickly! Feeling better today already.

 

In grateful that today while everyone else is going back to work, I atleast got to catch up on some sleep and feeling revived and ready for the next challenge.

[+ VeryHappyCustomer]

Mocha, don't you read the forums? We don't hate escorts. We desire them, enjoy their company, value their services, grow attached to them, and occasionally fall in love with them. Please catch your breath and look around. This is a friendly crowd.

[Edward]

I have never lasted out like this before. We all have our likes and dislikes. Mocha I have heard you rant and rave enough. Grow up and get over it.

[jjkrkwood]

I have never lasted out like this before. We all have our likes and dislikes. Mocha I have heard you rant and rave enough. Grow up and get over it.

 

Apparently Mocha never heard of the song "These are a Few of My FAVORITE Things " ???

[Mocha]

I have never lasted out like this before. We all have our likes and dislikes. Mocha I have heard you rant and rave enough. Grow up and get over it.

 

And saying that's suppposed to do what? Make me feel empowered? Or inferior. Because if it's the latter, YOU may have some growing to do yourself because you lack the maturity to see things from another persons points of view, and instead make insidious remarks that come off sociopathic.

Edited December 19, 2017 by Mocha

[Pulgasari1991]

I can't explain all my security measures ;-)

I see.

Would you say it has more to do with threats or with genuine persuasion?

[Bearofdistinction]

And saying that's suppposed to do what? Make me feel empowered? You have some growing to do yourself because you lack the maturity to see things from another persons points of view, and instead make insidious remarks that make you look ignorant.

 

I'm not going to shut up .You going to keep hearing it until I'm done talking about it. If you don't like it, don't tell me to grow up. You shut up.

 

And learn proper Ingles. It's lashed. Not lasted. Get your mind right.

 

Go Away Little Girl . . .

 

[Edward]

Lol mocha you prove my point. Rattle on.

[jjkrkwood]

And saying that's suppposed to do what? Make me feel empowered? You have some growing to do yourself because you lack the maturity to see things from another persons points of view, and instead make insidious remarks that make you look ignorant.

 

I'm not going to shut up .You going to keep hearing it until I'm done talking about it. If you don't like it, don't tell me to grow up. You shut up.

 

And learn proper Ingles. It's lashed. Not lasted. Get your mind right.

 

Wow, for a moment I thought it was "man-baby" Trump talking. Talk about infantile behavior... If you close your eyes and just listen, you would think some spoiled Brat was talking. All that was missing from this rant was "Nah Nah Nah" !!!!

 

And this is probably the exact behavior his clients are reacting to when they dump his ass ? So why does Mocha continue to be surprised at "clients" behavior ? They dont have the problem,

HE DOES !

[Mocha]

@Mocha I don't think its the clients being insecure, i think its that they had no intention in hiring you in the first place and were just playing games, unfortunately is part of escorting lifestyles every escort big or small has to go with it, its one of the cons of this rewarding lifestyle.

 

Your right you can only screen someone so much, just don't meet anyone without a number because then if they no-show you can write the number down for future reference and block it. If someone is haggling, getting hostile, before the meeting even starts just move on and don't engage in further conversation. They are many good clients out there who don't make a first meet up so difficult.

 

I would say have 80 percent of the people I meet are regulars for all the reasons you mentioned. Its honestly just easier plus you know they are legit. I don't get no-shows but I do get clients stopping conversation before were supposed to meet, in that case you just have to continue pushing, and keep working, even when Im not psychically over at some clients place Im always working at home answering texts to get new clientele, and new clientele who don't make the process difficult, theirs no harm in setting standards or boundaries and its ok to not go meet every client who messages you

 

Good points, good points. However, some of these are real clients. And it surprises me when some of them end up being actual clients. But I'm glad you have my back and can offer up some alternatives. But I believe some people probably get more shit than others. Some guys may have more tolerance to certain behavior for whatever reasons they have. Or maybe they don't and make me look too nice.

Edited December 19, 2017 by Mocha

[Bearofdistinction]

Never Mind SELF EDITED to Save Daddy the Trouble

[Deadlift1]

Lets stop taking the bait!! Ignore

[KennF]

The public sucks, and not in a good way.

 

Unfortunately, the bad experiences stick out more than the good ones. Mostly because the bad ones disrupt our lives and plans. It is worse, because clients are rarely reviewed.

 

There's the standard 80/20 rule. 10% of the people are outstanding. 10% are disaster. 80% are okay but may shift depending on the situation.

Edited December 20, 2017 by KennF

[marylander1940]

What I hate about escorts. 1). No shows. 2) they are always late. 3) they don't deliver services agreed on. 4). Always don't stay as long as you are paying for. 5) they don't match their advertised description.

 

How often do any of those 5 things happen to you when you hire?

[LADoug1]

I see your point, but it's easier said than done. You're saying choose to be happy, but you're not seeing and dealing with the things I've dealt with. I am happy. It's not about not being happy. What is happiness anyway? Define it. I defined hate. You define happiness. You can't just tell someone to feel a certain way, without necessarily getting their definition of it. For example, I'm happy bitching about difficult clients once in awhile. That makes me happy. That may not make YOU happy, but it suits me just fine. Don't define my happiness by your measure of happiness. And until someone knows what someone else has been thru, is going thru, and is about to go thru...saying to just be happy is like telling a person who's not in shape to go lift 300 lbs and run 10 miles and get in shape.

 

Also, I don't know your coworker. I don't know your job. Her bitching about everything under the sun is irrelevant to what I'm discussing. I'm discussing one particular matter, that is certainly not everything under the sun. A client interaction may only last 1 to 2 hours. There's 22 hours that I'm doing other things that make me happy.

 

Be careful @Mocha. I think you bitch about clients more than just “once in awhile “.

[jjkrkwood]

Be careful @Mocha. I think you bitch about clients more than just “once in awhile “.

 

And usually it's the WHITE ones.....whom I would suspect make up MOST of his income ?

 

Black guys wouldnt put up with his crap!

[HotWhiteThirties]

Somebody can’t keep their “crazy tucked in.” Time to pop some popcorn.

[jjkrkwood]

Somebody can’t keep their “crazy tucked in.” Time to pop some popcorn.

 

 

Forget popcorn, THIS calls for ChexMix.....

[+ DickyF]

I will add that I feel race plays a part. I feel in addition to the hate towards escorts, there's definitely a hate towards the gay black male in many areas. And guess what? It's coming from both sides. From both Black and White men. The disrespect is appalling. The gay black dudes come off disrespectful as fuck toward myself as a black gay men and they train these white guys to disrespect us as well. And the white guys are training Black guys that we aren't shit either. Until they meet ME.

Mr Mocha

Earlier you said that people have totally changed from “the early to mid 2000s” - I think you’re projecting yourself onto everyone. And here you say that black and white men hate you - that they are even training each other to hate you or all black men. I’m not sure how that would work. Regardless you use such an extremely broad brush; IMHO you’re doing this to avoid what’s going on with you. I suggest discussing with a counselor. It’s helped me!

[phraughy]

Edit: the person who said was going to take me to court made amends and took care of half of the proposed rate in person last night. So he's been cleared. However, last night a different person thought it'd be cute to send me on an outcall out to a gated community....with no gate code, only to claim to have fell asleep upon arrival. I was just reimbursed for that this morning.

 

I always tell myself every year, that I wish I could take off and not have to advertise or work from mid December until after the 1st week in January. And this year, it couldn't be more in hindsight. Just when I was on a money train the past few weeks, ended up hitting a predictable funk as Christmas nears.

 

Dude, you have so much negative energy, you are attracting problems. I have hired 200+ escorts over the past 30 years and I have only had 2 bad experiences. You come off as bitter and angry. I would not hire you.