Why...

[Mocha]

I said I wouldn't post, but some of these things are just too humorous to not talk about

 

Why do people send emails on rentmen asking for same day appointment, often within the next hour or so, knowing I'm offline and unlikely I'll get to it within the timeframe?

 

Why do they send emails saying they're looking to meet soon, yet not leave their phone number or any pertinent info to contact them back, other than email?

 

Why do they then take forever (or not answer back at all) to reply to the email I send (often within the same time of day)

 

Why do they even think that's a efficient way of making a date request. Do they email their neighbor and ask if they'd like to come over for dinner?

 

Why do they then contact weeks later, send the same email last minute and then pretend like they never made an appointment previously....yet the email is pretty clear it was a request for one.

 

Why are some these from once met regulars, who know better...yet they say, "I know it's last minute..." Yes it is last minute and not a very productive way of making plans with someone.

 

Fortunently, it seems like rentmen has now a feature to decline receiving emails from unregistered users. Why not, I'll use it.

[Pulgasari1991]

I said I wouldn't post, but some of these things are just too humorous to not talk about

False memories happen.

 

Duh, from my limited experience, I'd say 2017 overall has been rampant with trolling/unexplained behaviour compared to before. But it can well just be me, after all I have no actual facts about big numbers and statistics.

[tenderloin]

Mocha, allow me to add something from the client perspective:

 

- if you look at many many escort ads, certainly the lion's share of Backpage and Adam4Adam, they say "same day appointments only" or "don't contact me if you are not ready to play" or something to that effect. I have tried from time to time to make some advanced arrangements with those guys, and i get shot down. So us consumers can find it difficult to know which way to go.

 

- If a sudden window opens in my schedule (my plans fall through and suddenly I am free tonight and feeling horny) would you rather that I not contact you, even when your rentmen ad says "available now"? Should I assume that "available now" does not mean that you are available now?

 

- sometimes my plans change in the other direction - I thought I would be free, or I didn't know I would catch a cold or that a blizzard would strike. I have been occasionally treated rudely by guys I have cancelled on (giving as much notice as possible) because of changing circumstances. It's like the advanced plan commits me by contract.

 

- As to why we use email rather than phone: I may be showing my age, but to me email is somehow less intrusive and interrupting than a phone call. If you are, indeed, on line and "available now" it is reasonable to assume that you will read your email. If you are in the middle of a meal or a workout or an appointment, i assume you won't read your email (and therefore are unlikely to be "available now.")

 

None of that excuses people who just stop communicating. But I hope the above offers some perspective you didn't have.

[Mocha]

Mocha, allow me to add something from the client perspective:

 

- if you look at many many escort ads, certainly the lion's share of Backpage and Adam4Adam, they say "same day appointments only" or "don't contact me if you are not ready to play" or something to that effect. I have tried from time to time to make some advanced arrangements with those guys, and i get shot down. So us consumers can find it difficult to know which way to go.

 

- If a sudden window opens in my schedule (my plans fall through and suddenly I am free tonight and feeling horny) would you rather that I not contact you, even when your rentmen ad says "available now"? Should I assume that "available now" does not mean that you are available now?

 

- sometimes my plans change in the other direction - I thought I would be free, or I didn't know I would catch a cold or that a blizzard would strike. I have been occasionally treated rudely by guys I have cancelled on (giving as much notice as possible) because of changing circumstances. It's like the advanced plan commits me by contract.

 

- As to why we use email rather than phone: I may be showing my age, but to me email is somehow less intrusive and interrupting than a phone call. If you are, indeed, on line and "available now" it is reasonable to assume that you will read your email. If you are in the middle of a meal or a workout or an appointment, i assume you won't read your email (and therefore are unlikely to be "available now.")

 

None of that excuses people who just stop communicating. But I hope the above offers some perspective you didn't have.

 

Good response. But I've heard that one before...but what other people say in their ads is negligible to me. No where do I suggest same day appointments only.

 

I don't mind same day appointments. Bring em. That's not the issue. The issue is emailing for a same day appointment for within the same time of day, when that's the most inefficient way of contact. Then don't leave a number. And then when I respond, they don't even reply back. Now whether its Rentmen email server or not is irreverent.

 

But, some of it is just how they roll in certain markets. People just do stuff intentionally to miss the session. They don't really want to meet, so they do something very passive Aggressive like send an email on a Saturday...hoping they'll catch your response without ever actually giving one.

[Walker1]

Aggressive like send an email on a Saturday...hoping they'll catch your response without ever actually giving one.

Or maybe they are just shy, felt horny and sent emails to a few people and caught the first one that responded. You can respond to emails in your phone.

[Bearofdistinction]

I said I wouldn't post, but some of these things are just too humorous to not talk about

 

Why do people send emails on rentmen asking for same day appointment, often within the next hour or so, knowing I'm offline and unlikely I'll get to it within the timeframe?

 

I thought MOMO said he was taking his bucket and shovel and leaving forever! And the we would never have MOMO to kick around again~!! Wasn't that a weeks ago???

 

Why do they send emails saying they're looking to meet soon, yet not leave their phone number or any pertinent info to contact them back, other than email?

 

Why do they then take forever (or not answer back at all) to reply to the email I send (often within the same time of day)

 

Why do they even think that's a efficient way of making a date request. Do they email their neighbor and ask if they'd like to come over for dinner?

 

Why do they then contact weeks later, send the same email last minute and then pretend like they never made an appointment previously....yet the email is pretty clear it was a request for one.

 

Why are some these from once met regulars, who know better...yet they say, "I know it's last minute..." Yes it is last minute and not a very productive way of making plans with someone.

 

Fortunently, it seems like rentmen has now a feature to decline receiving emails from unregistered users. Why not, I'll use it.

[+ Funguy]

As a psysician, I can't tell you how many times I have been on call and received messages from patients who forget to leave their call-back numbers and then who chastise me in the office the next day for not calling back. I tell them I'm not a psychic who can pull their phone number out of thin air and then I play them their message. I include pharmacy numbers as well.

People sometimes become stupid or tongue-tied when they have to leave certain info and they don't leave it.

[Mocha]

As a psysician, I can't tell you how many times I have been on call and received messages from patients who forget to leave their call-back numbers and then who chastise me in the office the next day for not calling back. I tell them I'm not a psychic who can pull their phone number out of thin air and then I play them their message. I include pharmacy numbers as well.

People sometimes become stupid or tongue-tied when they have to leave certain info and they don't leave it.

 

That's a good point you bought up. And that makes me realize it's an easy issue that Rentmen can fix.

 

Even though men4rent is not hot, they had it right when they had 3 boxes...to include name, email and a phone number along with a message body. The serious clients would include their number, while the assholes would just leave it blank. On rentmen, people just send emails like they're just messaging someone on Adam4adam.

 

Even though one can check emails on the phone, the thing with rentmen email is you get an email each time someone checks out your private pictures (unless you can remove that alert as well, ill check). Also, it's not the same as getting a text message. Like I said, I've responded to emails within 20 minutes and still don't hear back. One guy did that 2 months ago, I was even in the most convenient hotel downtown as he always asks for last minute incalls. And then he hit me up on Sunday like it never happened. I wasn't as nice about it this week...but atleast he knows not to play with me like that again.

 

I read one escorts ad in LA and he states he only takes responses by text. I used to not like text, but I'm finding it easier than emails and honestly thinking of following suit with his protocol. I already have my automated response template set up and it's much quicker to do it by text than email.

[Mocha]

Or maybe they are just shy, felt horny and sent emails to a few people and caught the first one that responded. You can respond to emails in your phone.

 

Yeah, but that's games. That's an annoying client who's going to be a pain in the ass down the line, as I often figue out. Even if I were to put myself in the client's shoes, to me that's still an asshole move and most (decent) clients don't do that. I can see contacting a few escorts over a course of a day or 2 IF the original escort did not respond within the 24 hour rule (meaning give them atleast 24 hours to respond to an email...4 hours if it's time sensitive). That's basic business communication principles. You mean to tell me these men twice my age making 3-4-6 times as much money as me don't know any better? Or they just being willfully ignorant? I had better communication from a client who was a 28 year old black dude who works at a grocery store chain than some of these supposed affluent fuckers who don't give a fuck about communication etiquette.

 

One of the same day emailers earlier this week did say something in his email about being "nervous" in his first reply. Well get yourself off. He's emailing me asking for my availability tonight, but then saying he's nervous. What am I supposed to do, put a bottle in his mouth before he even walks in the door? That's just pussy behavior that I don't have time for. You can be nervous, but that's not a free pass to be an ass. Those nervous types never book anyway. There's a difference between being nervous in person versus nervous over an email that no number was left to contact.

 

Dealing win some of these men, I feel like working in an elementary school. Now I know the meaning of kid in a candy store.

Edited November 14, 2017 by Mocha

[LADoug1]

Another negatively toned thread by Mocha. Yawn.

Edited November 14, 2017 by LADoug1

[jjkrkwood]

Another negative toned thread by Mocha. Yawn.

 

With his usual tinge of "racism".... He just cant help himself....

[tenderloin]

Mocha - With respect, I don't think you are doing yourself any favors here. As a man twice your age who probably makes more than you do, I can tell you that the anger and resentment you are exhibiting here would make me think twice before retaining your services.

 

I think that any business man can benefit by trying to understand the perspective of those with whom he is doing business. People are not reaching out to you to make reservations at a restaurant. Many of the people reaching out to you are in the closet, or "out" but scared of exposure for doing something illegal, or worried that you are actually a cop, or worried that you are actually a thug who is trying to take advantage of closet queens to rob them, blackmail them, or harm them. Understanding and empathizing with your potential client pool will win you a lot more business than dismissing and insulting them will.

 

Just a point of view from an old, affluent fucker.

[desertguy1954]

Mocha, have you ever thought of getting another job. You are one of the most negative escorts I have ever seen on this forum

[jjkrkwood]

Mocha - With respect, I don't think you are doing yourself any favors here. As a man twice your age who probably makes more than you do, I can tell you that the anger and resentment you are exhibiting here would make me think twice before retaining your services.

 

I think that any business man can benefit by trying to understand the perspective of those with whom he is doing business. People are not reaching out to you to make reservations at a restaurant. Many of the people reaching out to you are in the closet, or "out" but scared of exposure for doing something illegal, or worried that you are actually a cop, or worried that you are actually a thug who is trying to take advantage of closet queens to rob them, blackmail them, or harm them. Understanding and empathizing with your potential client pool will win you a lot more business than dismissing and insulting them will.

 

Just a point of view from an old, affluent fucker.

 

VERY well explained, but it's like talking to a wall... Since he does get a client here and there, he believes he is sought after and successful.....

 

[KennF]

Good response. But I've heard that one before...but what other people say in their ads is negligible to me. No where do I suggest same day appointments only.

 

I don't mind same day appointments. Bring em. That's not the issue. The issue is emailing for a same day appointment for within the same time of day, when that's the most inefficient way of contact. Then don't leave a number. And then when I respond, they don't even reply back. Now whether its Rentmen email server or not is irreverent.

 

But, some of it is just how they roll in certain markets. People just do stuff intentionally to miss the session. They don't really want to meet, so they do something very passive Aggressive like send an email on a Saturday...hoping they'll catch your response without ever actually giving one.

 

Your mixing personalities and over generalizing. Most of all, you are really looking at this from a self-centric point of view, instead of the customer's point of view..

 

Yes, there are people out there that get their jollies by wanking your chain or just imagining what it may be like without actually engaging services. Shit happens and it comes with the industry. But, do you really think that people wake up in the morning thinking "how am I going to mess with Mocha's mind"? Sure that's how it feels from your point of view, but the people you are discussing are coming from life from their own point of view and their own idiosyncrasies.

 

For example:

Why do people send emails on rentmen asking for same day appointment, often within the next hour or so, knowing I'm offline and unlikely I'll get to it within the timeframe?

They are not considering your schedule or timing. They don't care whether you are online or not. That's not their problem. They saw you, thought you were interesting enough to reach out to, and shot you an email.

 

Why do they send emails saying they're looking to meet soon, yet not leave their phone number or any pertinent info to contact them back, other than email?

Because as far as they are concerned, that is the limit of what personal information they are willing to expose. That is their preferred method of communication. As such, they expect that is what you will use. They probably aren't Millennials who live attached to their phones, and if they are, they aren't comfortable giving out that phone to you, yet.

 

Why do they then take forever (or not answer back at all) to reply to the email I send (often within the same time of day)

Because, their window of interest shifted. It may be tough to hear, but you aren't important enough in their life at that moment and you may not be their only iron in the fire. Someone else may have gotten back in touch with them before you. OR, the tone of the response rubbed them wrong. OR, they changed their mind.

 

They feel no obligation to think of things from your point of view. Do people worry about the waiter's timing/schedule when you tell them you want a glass of water and a few more minutes with the menu?

 

Why do they even think that's a efficient way of making a date request. Do they email their neighbor and ask if they'd like to come over for dinner?

A) These are not emotionally equivalent. You don't equal their neighbor. They give their neighbor a totally different type and level of respect.

B) Who ever said they were looking for efficiency? When I contact a provider, I don't care whether my type of communication is the most efficient for THEM. I worry about my needs, my desires, and my comfort. If they don't want to communicate with me in a way that I am comfortable, then c'est la vie.

 

I can go on, if you really want. I suspect that this will be a TLDR message.