Does this happen to you?

[rvwnsd]

What is site #2?

 

I think they are talking about Boytoy or something like that. Another site similar to this but not as good.

The site of which we doth not speaketh

[Bearofdistinction]

Ha! You already miss him that much...

 

About as much as youd miss Jock Itch in a prickly heat storm while wearing wool draws!

Edited November 2, 2017 by Bearofdistinction

[josh282282]

No-shows are a chronic headache for all professionals, not just escorts. I should know. I'm a Primary Care physician. On any given day, no-shows account for a PCPs total daily booked appointments at a rate of 5-20%, depending on the demographics of the patient panel and geography. Yes, that's a daily no-show rate. My personal office no-show rate hovers around 7%. It used to frustrate me a lot more than it does now. At this point in my career, I have come to understand some people are simply disrespectful of others. And I have a much better strategy of managing no-shows then I did when I first started.

 

I have a policy that 3 no-shows in <18 months (not 12 months) will have the professional relationship terminated and the patient needing to find a new physician. And if a new patient no-shows on their very first appointment, the staff are not allowed to make them another appointment. A no-show on the first appointment is that is all the evidence I need to know that the patient will be a hardship on my practice, and by extension, the health of my other patients in my panel who actually show up. Even if the patient calls to cancel but if its less than a 24 hr notice, it is still considered a no-show. The reason is, sometimes if there is <24 hr notice, that appointment spot can not be replaced by another patient as it sometimes impossible to logistically get another patient in his/her place. In this day and age of physician shortages, an unused appointment slot is a seriously unfortunate event which harms other patients. I have no desire or need to fill my panel with such disrespectful patients. It's not that they are disrespectful to me that is the issue, it's they are disrespectful to my other patients and prospective new patients who want to be seen but my staff have to say no to or put them off to a later date.

 

My office staff has a large protocol to help diminish no-shows. First, when they make an appointment, they are informed of the no-show policy AND if they are established patients, how many no-shows they have accumulated (if any) in the past 18 months. When a patient hears they have 2 no-shows in the past 18 months, it help motivate them to show up next time, or at least give 24 hr notice. Patient's are called 2 days before to remind them. If we have an address, email reminders go out the day before to further remind. Letters go to each patient who no-shows offering concern over their health and a reminder of the no-show policy. If they have no-shows already documented, that is included in the letter. The letter is as professional, pleasant, but matter of fact as can be in such a letter as this.

 

But we urgently suggest to patients to inform the office of a no-show even if it's less than 24 hrs because it might help them in the future. Is the patient rude to my staff (you might be surprised to hear how many patients are rude to office staff)? Do they always pay late or refuse to pay their co-pays/deductibles? Are they not getting better under my care due to their non-participation in the treatment plan? To many "yes'es" and I'm gonna terminate them. But if they have 3 no-shows but one of these was a call 2 hrs before the appointment to cancel (which is still a no-show) but are otherwise good patients (no yes'es to the above questions), I might delay termination... maybe, if they really ask for clemency and understand one more and they are gone. See, I'm not as mean as you think.

 

By implementing this protocol, my no-show rate, although frustrating, is at a reasonable level. Without it I have seen a no-show percentage of near 20%.

 

Why have I described in depth this office protocol? To suggest to all escorts to find and implement your own robust protocol for your business which can only help you. This should include accepting (as I have to do) that no professional can eliminate all no-shows. It's just a part of doing business.

 

Suggestions To Escorts:

1) Get an address at least 3 days before the session. (Why wouldn't a client give you one?)

2) No blocked calls.

3) Insist on a Day-Of confirmation text/phone call.

4) Where possible, identify red-flags which alert you to a client with an increased risk of a no-show and come up with a strategy to navigate and diminish that risk.

5) Inform the client making an appointment that you are the consummate professional and will absolutely give him at the least a 24 hr cancellation call (or more) if an emergency comes up. But ask him to do the same and actually get a verbal agreement from him on this. Review with him that this is your livelihood and to respect this and your time by giving you the same courtesy. Be pleasant, matter of fact, and polite with this part of conversation, but be clear. Possibly by getting him to verbally agree to give you a cancellation call, he will commit to respectful behavior because now he doesn't want to let himself down by breaking his word to himself.

 

I would love to hear other suggestions that escorts and clients are using/considering to use for this vexing problem.

 

Hugs to all,

Josh

Edited November 2, 2017 by josh282282

[Ghadd]

There could be a vast number of reasons why that guy vanished, but... we do live in a time where "ghosting" is a thing that people do. They do it enough that the concept has its own name...

 

Hopefully it's not the norm for you guys.

[Mocha]

Insert Mocha rant here

 

http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/80441-People-Talk-Behind-Your-Back.jpg

 

Edited November 1, 2017 by Mocha

[marylander1940]

 

 

[marylander1940]

This is for the Escorts that have a booked client. Everything is set, what the client expects, time and place. When that day arrives. I usually text or email them several hours before to confirm our appointment The client tell you everything is a still on, and will give you the address closer to our appointment time. You pick out your clothes, shower, shave and do everything to be "Ready " for the reason you were hired.. Only to have that client not respond to any further communication.

 

Why is so difficult for a client to let the escort know something has changed and they will not be able to keep our appointment.....

 

Flakiness happens a lot... both ways unfortunately.

 

No-shows, teasers and time wasters are part of the job of being an escort.

[Mocha]

 

I'm not back...but I am keeping an eye out for behind-the-back talkers.

 

So unless @VictorPowers wants his next porno video to be a 4 on 1 interracial gangbang, he better just gone on about his business and not bring me up where it's not warranted.

 

Like Chris Brown said: "I'm gonna get on your level since you wanna trip, I'm gonna get a new bigger dick as your punishment..."

 

Especially After I took the time the other week to respond to his thread. (Which caused conflict with my client) where he couldn't even figure out whether he wanted to do a porn or not. It's like you reach out and extend advice to another escort, and then they come around and mock you.

 

Just shows what type of character he is. That's why I'm not conversing around here anymore. I can't deal with mischevious, sneaky ass hoes. Then when they know you're not on, they turn around and talk additional shit behind your back.

Edited November 1, 2017 by Mocha

[gallahadesquire]

Oh dear, did I reveal my phone number too soon?

 

HUdson 3-2700. Anyone recognize it?

[+ VictorPowers]

I'm not back...but I am keeping an eye out for behind-the-back talkers.

 

So unless @VictorPowers wants his next porno video to be a 4 on 1 interracial gangbang, he better just gone on about his business and not bring me up where it's not warranted.

 

Like Chris Brown said: "I'm gonna get on your level since you wanna trip, I'm gonna get a new bigger dick as your punishment..."

 

Especially After I took the time the other week to respond to his thread. (Which caused conflict with my client) where he couldn't even figure out whether he wanted to do a porn or not. It's like you reach out and extend advice to another escort, and then they come around and mock you.

 

Just shows what type of character he is. That's why I'm not conversing around here anymore. I can't deal with mischevious, sneaky ass hoes. Then when they know you're not on, they turn around and talk additional shit behind your back.

With all due respect, it was a joke and should be taken as such. I later answered the OP's question truthfully and full heartedly. I enjoy being facetious and thought I'd use you as the butt end of a joke. I apologize if it was in bad taste.

 

Edited November 1, 2017 by VictorPowers

[+ Funguy]

No-shows are a chronic headache for all professionals, not just escorts. I should know. I'm a Primary Care physician. On any given day, no-shows account for a PCPs total daily booked appointments at a rate of 5-20%, depending on the demographics of the patient panel and geography. Yes, that's a daily no-show rate. My personal office no-show rate hovers around 7%. It used to frustrate me a lot more than it does now. At this point in my career, I have come to understand some people are simply disrespectful of others. And I have a much better strategy of managing no-shows then I did when I first started.

 

I have a policy that 3 no-shows in <18 months (not 12 months) will have the professional relationship terminated and the patient needing to find a new physician. And if a new patient no-shows on their very first appointment, the staff are not allowed to make them another appointment. A no-show on the first appointment is that is all the evidence I need to know that the patient will be a hardship on my practice, and by extension, the health of my other patients in my panel who actually show up. Even if the patient calls to cancel but if its less than a 24 hr notice, it is still considered a no-show. The reason is, sometimes if there is <24 hr notice, that appointment spot can not be replaced by another patient as it sometimes impossible to logistically get another patient in his/her place. In this day and age of physician shortages, an unused appointment slot is a seriously unfortunate event which harms other patients. I have no desire or need to fill my panel with such disrespectful patients. It's not that they are disrespectful to me that is the issue, it's they are disrespectful to my other patients and prospective new patients who want to be seen but my staff have to say no to or put them off to a later date.

 

My office staff has a large protocol to help diminish no-shows. First, when they make an appointment, they are informed of the no-show policy AND if they are established patients, how many no-shows they have accumulated (if any) in the past 18 months. When a patient hears they have 2 no-shows in the past 18 months, it help motivate them to show up next time, or at least give 24 hr notice. Patient's are called 2 days before to remind them. If we have an address, email reminders go out the day before to further remind. Letters go to each patient who no-shows offering concern over their health and a reminder of the no-show policy. If they have no-shows already documented, that is included in the letter. The letter is as professional, pleasant, but matter of fact as can be in such a letter as this.

 

But we urgently suggest to patients to inform the office of a no-show even if it's less than 24 hrs because it might help them in the future. Is the patient rude to my staff (you might be surprised to hear how many patients are rude to office staff)? Do they always pay late or refuse to pay their co-pays/deductibles? Are they not getting better under my care due to their non-participation in the treatment plan? To many "yes'es" and I'm gonna terminate them. But if they have 3 no-shows but one of these was a call 2 hrs before the appointment to cancel (which is still a no-show) but are otherwise good patients (no yes'es to the above questions), I might delay termination... maybe, if they really ask for clemency and understand one more and they are gone. See, I'm not as mean as you think.

 

By implementing this protocol, my no-show rate, although frustrating, is at a reasonable level. Without it I have seen a no-show percentage of near 20%.

 

Why have I described in depth this office protocol? To suggest to all escorts to find and implement your own robust protocol for your business which can only help you. This should include accepting (as I have to do) that no professional can eliminate all no-shows. It's just a part of doing business.

 

Suggestions To Escorts:

1) Get an address at least 3 days before the session. (Why wouldn't a client give you one?)

2) No blocked calls.

3) Insist on a Day-Of confirmation text/phone call.

4) Where possible, identify red-flags which alert you to a client with an increased risk of a no-show and come up with a strategy to navigate and diminish that risk.

5) Inform the client making an appointment that you are the consummate professional and will absolutely give him at the least a 24 hr cancellation call (or more) if an emergency comes up. But ask him to do the same and actually get a verbal agreement from him on this. Review with him that this is your livelihood and to respect this and your time by giving you the same courtesy. Be pleasant, matter of fact, and polite with this part of conversation, but be clear. Possibly by getting him to verbally agree to give you a cancellation call, he will commit to respectful behavior because now he doesn't want to let himself down.

 

I would love to hear other suggestions that escorts and clients are using/considering to use for this vexing problem.

 

Hugs to all,

Josh

 

As a PCP as well, I admire you keeping to your policy. As part of the paperwork given a patient when they first join the practice is a form explaining there is a $45 no-show fee and it must be signed as proof office policy has been explained.

I have never had a patient have to pay it more than once. My no show rate is probably now at 5%.

Sorry everybody, but unfortunately medicine has made the leap from "art" to "business" just like everything else.

[bigvalboy]

http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/80441-People-Talk-Behind-Your-Back.jpg

 

 

 

It's been a pleasure, but I will no longer participate in conversations...

Mocha, Oct 22, 2017

 

"So, at this point it's just best for me to only post in 1 section of the forum simply for advertising purposes only. I will no longer be engaging in personal conversations publicly on the board. I'm not mad at anyone or storming off or trying to prove a point...but at this point in time I can't handle any extra or unnecessary setbacks or distractions with the responsibilities I currently have going on and coming up this and next year.

 

So Thankyou everyone for your advices, and those who know me, you know where to reach me".

 

[+ VictorPowers]

It's been a pleasure, but I will no longer participate in conversations...

Mocha, Oct 22, 2017

 

"So, at this point it's just best for me to only post in 1 section of the forum simply for advertising purposes only. I will no longer be engaging in personal conversations publicly on the board. I'm not mad at anyone or storming off or trying to prove a point...but at this point in time I can't handle any extra or unnecessary setbacks or distractions with the responsibilities I currently have going on and coming up this and next year.

 

So Thankyou everyone for your advices, and those who know me, you know where to reach me".

*

 

*Humorous GIF. All users please do not take at face value.

[Mocha]

With all due respect, it was a joke and should be taken as such. I later answered the OP's question truthfully and full heartedly. I enjoy being facetious and thought I'd use you as the butt end of a joke. I apologize if it was in bad taste.

 

Well thank you. Perhaps I was wrong about your character. I was joking too about the gangbang, but the rest I feel earnestly about. But I didn't find that at all funny. On top of that you said rant. Which means you disregarded what I say as a mere measly rant and that's disrespectful. It was not taken as a joke, and instead it created additional gossip and detracted from the overall thread.

 

Also, since I'm already here...I might as well show you the courtesy to your response:

 

Your scenario is a constant headache. To limit those occurrences, I confirm and re confirm:

1. Days prior (If traveling day of arrival in city)

2. Morning of

3. 2 hours prior

 

If they do in fact No Show, I save their number and it's highly unlikely I will ever meet with them. If I give them a 2nd chance, they'll be required to pay for their full session in advance. All of this is under the assumption it is a new client you've never seen.

 

If it's a regular, then that is completely different. Then again, a regular wouldn't stiff you, right? (Pun not intended)

 

This all sounds like good faith in writing, but let's be real....it's more Complex than that. You're coming from a standpoint as if the client booked days ahead of time. But in reality, these noshows often happen when client contacts the same day. So there's no days prior, morning of and 2 hours prior notice when they contact at 3 pm for a 5 pm and pull some shit like that.

 

I just don't stand for it. There's been several times in the last months where people have had to send me cancellation fees. Let www.Nationalblacklist.com be your friend. I don't even hesitate to tell them I'm going to place them on there if they act up enough.

 

Idk what the hell is going on nowadays, but being an escort can feel like being a teacher and dealing with children. And guess what teachers are doing? http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2017/09/29/arizona-teacher-shortage-made-me-break-down-tears/715137001/

Edited November 2, 2017 by Mocha

[+ VictorPowers]

Well thank you. Perhaps I was wrong about your character. I was joking too about the gangbang, but the rest I feel earnestly about. But I didn't find that at all funny. On top of that you said rant. Which means you disregarded what I say as a mere measly rant and that's disrespectful. It was not taken as a joke, and instead it created additional gossip and detracted from the overall thread.

 

Also, since I'm already here...I might as well show you the courtesy to your response:

 

 

 

This all sounds like good faith in writing, but let's be real....it's more Complex than that. You're coming from a standpoint as if the client booked days ahead of time. But in reality, these noshows often happen when client contacts the same day. So there's no days prior, morning of and 2 hours prior notice when they contact at 3 pm for a 5 pm and pull some shit like that.

 

I just don't stand for it. There's been several times in the last months where people have had to send me cancellation fees. Let www.Nationalblacklist.com be your friend. I don't even hesitate to tell them I'm going to place them on there if they act up enough.

 

Idk what the hell is going on nowadays, but being an escort can feel like being a teacher and dealing with children. The reason why the kids are so fucked up is because the parents are so fucked up. And guess what teachers are doing? http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2017/09/29/arizona-teacher-shortage-made-me-break-down-tears/715137001/

All providers can do is our best to avoid cancellations. They'll still happen. They always do. I wrote a list of practices I use. For me, I prebook cities weeks in advance. Maybe it's differing business models in how clients book/cancel on me vs you.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

I'm not back...but

I am not back but I am right here.

Right here writing long paragraphs and reading everything.

But really I am not back, you see, you can’t see me, so I am not back.

 

Seriously, either leave or stay, but stop treating us like bunch of idiots. It is borderline insulting.

[instudiocity]

I just don't stand for it. There's been several times in the last months where people have had to send me cancellation fees. Let www.Nationalblacklist.com be your friend. I don't even hesitate to tell them I'm going to place them on there if they act up enough.

Um, isn’t that Blackmail. Note a joke.

[marylander1940]

I am not back but I am right here.

Right here writing long paragraphs and reading everything.

But really I am not back, you see, you can’t see me, so I am not back.

 

Seriously, either leave or stay, but stop treating us like bunch of idiots. It is borderline insulting.

 

If I had a dollar for every time someone said he or she was leaving... and came back...

[Mocha]

All providers can do is our best to avoid cancellations. They'll still happen. They always do. I wrote a list of practices I use. For me, I prebook cities weeks in advance. Maybe it's differing business models in how clients book/cancel on me vs you.

 

Why do you insist on debasing me by comparing and sizing up your business model versus mine? Im not competing against you. Get that out of your mind for a minute.

 

It doesn't matter if you book travel cities weeks in advance, I'm sure you still get clients who want to meet the day of. And I'm sure many people get clients who book the day of/before. Why are you talking about someone having a different business model of being booked? Are you suggesting that a client has the courtesy to book you weeks ahead, but not me? Are you suggesting that you're doing it "better" by booking weeks in advance? Because I rarely ever book more than a week or 2 out nowadays simply because most times I find...people (or myself) end up having a change of plans at some point in between and it's much easier for me to book within a week or less.

[Mocha]

I am not back but I am right here.

Right here writing long paragraphs and reading everything.

But really I am not back, you see, you can’t see me, so I am not back.

 

Seriously, either leave or stay, but stop treating us like bunch of idiots. It is borderline insulting.

 

First off, I'm not treating anyone like idiots so stop. Please.

 

But if you want to act naive and pretend like people aren't discussing me even after I said I'm not participating, well that's a choice to be an idiot. If I said I'm not participating, it's insulting to talk crap knowing I don't want to be involved. That's insulting.

 

Victor Powers bought me up where it wasn't warranted, which created additional conversation. He's apologized so I'm not berating him, but since I happened to see it, I addressed it. Had he not mentioned me, I'd of never replied to this thread.

[+ VictorPowers]

Ok well I'm done with this thread.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

First off, I'm not treating anyone like idiots so stop. Please.

 

But if you want to act naive and pretend like people aren't discussing me even after I said I'm not participating, well that's a choice to be an idiot. If I said I'm not participating, it's insulting to talk crap knowing I don't want to be involved. That's insulting.

 

Victor Powers bought me up where it wasn't warranted, which created additional conversation. He's apologized so I'm not berating him, but since I happened to see it, I addressed it. Had he not mentioned me, I'd of never replied to this thread.

T’was fun for a while, but now had enough of your self-inflicted dramas, inconsistencies, multiple identities, and refusal to see a funny comment for what it is.

Click on @Mocha, click on “ignore”.

Ahhhh. Better.

[Mocha]

Well bye. Have a nice day.

 

[Michael Paul]

Flakiness happens a lot... both ways unfortunately.

 

No-shows, teasers and time wasters are part of the job of being an escort.

I am realizing this ...

[bigvalboy]

I am realizing this ...

 

I hope this kind of behavior doesn't dissuade you, because people failing to honor commitments happens in all businesses. It's human nature, it's part of our character, we are a flawed species.

 

There will come a point in time that you realize it's just not worth the frustration, but that point is different for all of us. I remember waking up one morning and realizing that I had enough, and it was time to walk away. Fortunately...I was able to do it on my terms. It was a gift from the man above, but I took it with great gratitude. It can never be said enough..."For every door that closes, one opens"

Edited November 2, 2017 by bigvalboy