Cancellation fees?

[gallahadesquire]

Under what circumstances do escorts charge / get a cancellation fee?

 

I had booked a long encounter with someone for a March date, that had to be cancelled. I booked in December and cancelled in January. I figured that was plenty of time, and reimbursed for flight change charges.

 

I had booked an overnight with someone and had to cancel on two-day notice. I paid in full.

 

Is this normal? is this expected? Would you say "You cancelled on short notice, you owe me?"

 

What IS short notice?

[Rudynate]

A couple of times I have cancelled approximately a week or more in advance. I thought that was enough notice so that a cancellation fee wasn't required.

[AndreFuture]

It depends on the escort. In other businesses, I've seen cancellation fees applied to less than 24 and 48 hours' notice. Of course, those are more volume-based businesses, so the impact of not seeing one client for (what's usually) a one hour appointment may have less of an impact on the business than a escort who takes fewer clients for longer sessions.

[+ VictorPowers]

I don't charge cancellation fees. My whole business model surrounds being as flexible as possible with my clients. I confirm and re confirm to avoid any last minute scrambles to fill time. I'm grateful for any advanced warning of a cancelled appointment. I have had very generous clients pay me for my time even though they had cancelled. I enjoyed the gesture, but in no way expected them to do that.

 

In your scenario, I'd consider 2 days pretty last minute for an ON since that is a big chunk of time to fill. If you cancelled a two hour block of time or so, that'd be far less of a problem to fill. Likely, the pro user in question had already turned inquiring clients away for that specific day already up until the cancellation occurred.

[Kipp Slinger]

This really depends on the escort. I allow for a great deal of flexibility but if a client cancels mere hours before an appointment--especially a first time client--I will not book with the client again without an appointment deposit.

[bigvalboy]

Under what circumstances do escorts charge / get a cancellation fee?

Is this normal? is this expected? Would you say "You cancelled on short notice, you owe me?"

 

This is normal...listen to the man Sir Gallahad;)

 

I don't charge cancellation fees. My whole business model surrounds being as flexible as possible with my clients. I have had very generous clients pay me for my time even though they had cancelled. I enjoyed the gesture, but in no way expected them to do that

Edited October 21, 2017 by bigvalboy

[LaffingBear]

I can only recall cancelling one time. I made an appointment with a guy in SF.. just one hour...

 

Although I should gave known better, I underestimated delays associated with a major road closure (SFBay Bridge was being rebuilt) I allowed 2+ hours for what would routinely be 40 minutes. At 90+ minutes, I hadn't even progressed 33% of the distance. So I called and cancelled.

 

He sounded like I'd woken him and he was glad to go back to sleep. Never occurred to me to offer a cancellation fee, and he didnt ask.

 

Saw him his next visit to SF, reminded him of the prior cancel and apologized again, and he said "don't worry about it."

[jjkrkwood]

Escorts are NOT doctors, and booking them for a period of time is in no way preventing them from "saving another life". If a client cancels, he cancels... its part of doing business. I would really love to see the escort

try an collect a cancellation fee. That would be like squeezing water from a stone.

[+ bashful]

I booked a one hour appointment with a non-US guy at least 3 weeks in advance via email, maybe more. When he got to town on a Friday, he texted me to confirm. I responded that I caught a cold, and thought it best to cancel our appointment, scheduled for the following Tuesday. No real response from him told me he was not happy, and probably would not consider a future meeting.

Edited October 22, 2017 by bashful

[jjkrkwood]

When you told him you had a cold, he took that as an excuse to back out, even if your reason was legitimate. It's normal to be sceptic of someone you're never seen before. I almost ran for the hills with my regular the first time in his home because there were about 50 pairs of shoes neatly lined up at the door. I'll never know if I was one of the lucky ones...

 

Maybe he just had his carpets cleaned ?

[Dmitri]

If I book with a masseur or an escort, and have to cancel last minute ( I consider that a same day cancellation)......for whatever reason ( bad traffic, have a cold, stuck at work, etc)....then I ALWAYS offer them 50% of their rate, and will pay it online if they have Paypal or take credit cards. I do this out of respect. These guys don't do this type of work as a hobby, since they have nothing else to do. This is their JOB. It is how they pay their bills, pay their rent, etc. If I cancel the same day, they have already turned clients away for my time slot and might not be able to fill it. It is not their fault....it is mine, since I cancelled.....they did not cancel, they were all ready for me. If we want to be treated with respect, we need to treat these guys with respect.

Edited October 23, 2017 by Dmitri

[vaguyD]

Oh hoooney, you must not be gay. Our obsession with shoes is a tad unhealthy at times.

 

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[FTM Zachary Prince]

I think the NEED for a cancellation fee varies widely depending on the business model of the escort. Some business models, for example, are primarily based on a higher volume of shorter appointments within a metro area, and involve a good number of last minute cancellations and last minute bookings that might on average even out, thus anyone could shrug and say it's just the cost of doing business. Let's say for example that this escort has a steady Incall arrangement and doesn't have to front hotel fees to host Incall either. Offering clients last minute flexibility in this case may be practical & have positive impact on the escort's relationships with said clients.

 

However~ consider an entirely different business model. An escort has a two hour minimum booking and is flying into NYC from Europe to see clients. He sees only two clients a day maximum to deliver optimum performance. Because of the higher commitment of time & money involved, most of his clients book weeks in advance. He spends three days each in NYC, DC, Chicago, SF, LA, and Atlanta. His hotel Incall costs amount to $300 per night on average, add in food/travel/incidentals and we're looking at $400-500 per day investment to make the tour. If a client were to cancel on him even 24-48 hours in advance, it might cause him a financial loss as it could be too late to adjust his travel plans, and he might be much more unlikely to be able to fill the spot on such short notice. This guy might need to have a cancellation fee in order to buffer the loss of income from unexpected last minute cancellations.

 

What feels last minute to one escort can vary widely from what feels last minute to another escort. When flights & hotel reservations are involved, 24 hours seems like much less notice than when someone's only investment to reach you is a taxi or uber ride. There are also hidden factors less obvious to the client. Did the escort have to rearrange his schedule to accommodate your request in the first place? Did that cost him anything? Did he turn down other requests that he can't now re-arrange because that client has already made other plans? Etc.

[FTM Zachary Prince]

I personally do charge a cancellation fee. My business model makes it necessary. I invest a lot of money in advance to make myself available for clients. Since I serve a niche market, this allows me to meet clients from all over the country instead of listening to them lament from afar that they are dying to meet me but can't make it to my home city. But it does require some level of committment between my clients and I about our appointments.

 

If I didn't charge a cancellation fee, I know I would be suspicious and resentful of clients who canceled on me at the last minute. Anyone can say they're sick, or their mother died, or any number of excuses, but at the end of the day, I have no way of verifying any of that and I'll be the one stuck with a $300 hotel bill for a room that I didn't even end up using. Other clients have mentioned, here and elsewhere, that an escort has stopped communicating with them or accepting appointments after a last-minute cancellation. We often do this because we can't tell with certainty who legimately had a last-minute emergency and who is simply being disrespectful of our time. In an effort to protect ourselves from further losses in the future, we may cut off any client who cancels at the last minute, assuming the worst about their potential to repeat this behaviour in the future (as many who don't respect our time unfortunately do). For me, charging a cancellation fee is also a way of sorting between someone who genuinely had a last minute emergency but DOES respect my time/monetary investment, and someone who merely made an excuse because they didn't respect my time enough to keep their committment. This way, I don't end up resentful towards or cutting off a good client who genuinely respects my time but just couldn't make things work suddenly.

 

My cancellation policy is a contract between me and my clients where we both agree to share the financial responsibility in the event that something should come up on the client's end. Obviously if I need to cancel for any reason (very rare), then the loss is all mine. I NEVER surprise a client with a cancellation fee after the fact, tho. My cancellation policy is generally stated in my ads, on my website, and included in the body of my email request for a client to confirm our booking before I block it into my calendar and make the logistical arrangements. Thus every client CONSENTS to it when confirming a booking and has the opportunity to decline to confirm if he disagrees. I find that this approach makes having a cancellation policy a very smooth and conflict-free experience. I do not HAVE to demand a cancellation fee after someone cancels on me at the last minute; my clients already know when canceling that I have a cancellation policy, and generally mention their intention to send my cancellation fee at the same time that they inform me of the cancellation.

 

Is my cancellation policy "enforceable"? Absolutely not, in the same way that I don't have much legal recourse if a client shorts me $100 of my fee after a session. However, given that my clients consent to my policy when making a booking and are aware of it when they choose to cancel, if someone doesn't send me the fee as previously agreed then it lets me know pretty clearly just how much they respect my business. At least I don't have to play any guessing games about their intentions and can comfortably refuse to engage with them about any future appointments. At that point the breach of trust between the two of us is clear.

 

Since implementing a clearly-explained and client-consented cancellation policy (3-4 years ago), not only has my number of cancellations dropped dramatically, but the stress has gone out of the ones that do happen. Vast majority of my clients send my cancellation fee without any stress on my part, my touring finances are more stable, and the rare client who does not follow thru with my fee ends up on my permanent DO NOT SEE list. It's also improved my relationships with good clients who do have to cancel unexpectedly last minute because the whole exchange is consensual and respectful toward both of us... no reason for surprise or suspicion on either side of the equation.

[Mocha]

I'm on the @FTM Zachary Prince train all the way to Minneapolis! You reinforced my decision to do cancellation fees, and also gave me additional strategies to use towards it.

 

End of 2017 and into 2018, it's going to be STRICTLY cancellation fees enforced, zero tolerance for Inconsideration. I used to just be okay doing deposits, but with the level of things, a cancellation fee policy is going to be necessary.

[jjkrkwood]

Oh hoooney, you must not be gay. Our obsession with shoes is a tad unhealthy at times.

 

http://78.media.tumblr.com/5d9dda90c4931e409ab2a9bb59c04333/tumblr_inline_osdhqsr9Yx1qhgld8_500.gif

 

I am going on 400+ pairs... Who the hell needs 400 pair of shoes....? I only have 2 feet..... I NEED HELP !